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Nova Caeli
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Legalization of drugs (go to this one for drug law debate)

Postby Nova Caeli » Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:37 pm

I firsty want to apolagize to everyone I have message and asked for support and to the forum, I am rather new and so did not realise the norm of submiting WA proposals, I have asked the moderator to delete the proposal as to benefit the real argument.
I made a mess of my propsal but the subject in hand is actually rather interesting and important
before I go into a long message telling everyone my radical and liberal views over legalization I will start this debate with a few key ideas, I will listen to improvements and eventually actually make a propsal worth voting for, and yet again I apologise for my ignorance over the WA
Key ideas:
-That a government standard should be set for the quality of the drugs (low quality or dirty drugs such as the normal heroin can cause much more deaths and damage to the person)and if it is not above they should be stopped from production
-that the ones manufactering and selling these drugs need government authorization (no known gang members or criminals would be allowed for instance but business creating more pure drugs would)
-That the government should give a donation and endorse business' which create more pure and therefore safer drugs and stabalize the more dangerous ones (for instance a chemical formula for heroin should be made and that it isnt just random, making it less dangerous as people know what is actually in them and the more dangerous added chemical substances should be taken out of the market)
-That more rehab centers should be opened to the less financially well off (too many rehabs are far too expensive meaning only the rich and the
famous can get in)
-That people should not be arrested for going to hospital to help them after taking drugs and having a bad experiance and should not be arrested for addmiting to taking drugs and asking for help.
-That accept for in business, bars, companies etc. where they have aasked and recieved authorization you canot take these drugs anywhere except for one of these liscensed companies or in the privacy of your home or friends home.
-That a tax should be put on recreational drugs as to gain money for 'better causes' such as rehabs for the poor, education, law and order etc.
What do you think of these ideas? should some of them be ditched? how can they be improved and is there any new ideas which should be added to these ideas.
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:25 pm

To start with, why do you think that this topic needs to be addressed by the WA rather than left to the discretion of the separate nations' governments?
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Postby Nova Caeli » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:32 pm

For the reason that legalizing of drugs is important it can benefit your nation in many ways, some reasons people dont know and where is a better place than the WA, drugs should be legalized for this reason the WA is used to develop, help and create a community of natiosn and the legalizing drugs in my mind is certtainly a development

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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:48 pm

We don't see a valid reason there, nothing with any substance.

Some questions.
1.) How can this be a benefit?
2.) If nobody knows the reason, then why is the WA the place to go? We do not care for "pass this then we can see what it will do" as a reason.
3.) How does legalization of drugs "create a community of nations"? What makes this a development?
4.) There is no differentiation between recreational, prescription medicinal drugs and over-the-counter medicinal drugs here that we can see, just some amorphous "drugs" as a catch-all. How will this be addressed?
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:50 pm

also...

kryozerkia wrote:This is your friendly neighbourhood Mod reminding you NOT to start a new thread everytime you redraft or resubmit your proposal. The current thread you have on the issue is all you need.

Duplicate threads will be removed.

EDIT -- Since folks seem to be making duplicate threads for the same proposal, even after it's been defeated, I'll just re-sticky this reminder.


http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=449477#p449477
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Postby Zoerb » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:13 pm

I give you credit for trying to correct your mistakes and learn from them. That is commendable (not in the WA sense). As it has been pointed out though the new thread was also not a good idea. Im sure you can learn from this too, although reading through some of the rules beforehand might be a good idea. As for your proposal though, I must say that I cannot support it, sorry.
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Postby Nova Caeli » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:37 pm

i didnt say drugs amde communities what? no I said that is what the world assembly does creates a community of good and civilised nations. NOw if there was any confusion this is about reccreational drugs not other. This isnt a wait and see propsal it has obvious benefits such as rehabs for the poor and less deaths through dangerous and unkown drugs. I mean civil rights I believe a right that must be defended, the right to do what you like with your body must be respected, and as people will do what htey like with their bodies some dont care wether its legal or not hence the millions of drug users worldwide. By not having it legal these people are shunned as criminals or nutjobs, but these people are just victims of a system not respecting the welfare of the peolple (drug users) this benefits by making cleaner drugs something which must be done and the only way to get people to buy more clean drugs is to legalise, dealers arent going to cleanse their products of all the filth added to it that would lower profit no legal business who care about the welfare of the client who makes more pure and clean drugs, these business' should be sponsered by governments which my proposal proposes. As I once said in an earlier message who do you want making the drugs a dealer of the street making stuff in his garage or terrace etc. or top scientists in labs?


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