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[DRAFT]Faster-Than-Light Interstellar Transport Development

Postby Monikian WA Mission » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:06 pm

Category: Education and Creativity
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Rational for Consideration: To promote the development of faster-than-light transport systems for interstellar trade and space exploration.

First Draft:

The World Assembly,

UNDERSTANDING that faster-than-light interstellar transport of beings and cargo may result in the furtherance of interstellar trade;

CONVINCED that international co-operation for the development of faster-than-light interstellar transport development is necessary to facilitate the benefits of interstellar trade;

ALSO CONVINCED that the development of faster- than-light interstellar transport systems requires international co-operation in the areas of physics, chemistry, and engineering;

1. FOUNDS the International Committee for the Development of Faster-than-light Interstellar Transport (ICDFIT);

2. CHARGES the ICDFIT to make internationally available all known scientific theory on faster-than-light transport;

3. MANDATES that the ICDFIT upon successful development of faster-than-light interstellar transport capability, make recommendations to member nations for regulations on safety, life support, life saving devices and search and rescue operations;

4. MANDATES that the ICDFIT assist member nations in the construction of and development of ships, engines, and other items necessary for interstellar faster-than-light transport;

5. URGES member nations which already have faster-than-light interstellar transport available to make donations to assist in the development of faster-than-light interstellar transport facilities abroad under the direction of the ICDFIT;

6. RECOMENDS that any technology developed under the authority or with the help of the ICDFIT not be used for military purposes.

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Postby Flibbleites » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:50 pm

My opinion on this is the same as my opinion on the WA Space Station, if you can't make it into space on your own, you don't belong there.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:34 pm

We do not care for mandated technology.
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Postby Darenjo » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:32 pm

Two things:

1. What?

2. (After my initial disbelief) No. Sorry, but I am not helping every nation that pops up in the feeder regions get into space.
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Postby Monikian WA Mission » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:18 pm

Darenjo wrote:Two things:

1. What?

2. (After my initial disbelief) No. Sorry, but I am not helping every nation that pops up in the feeder regions get into space.


Unfortunately you already are remember this?
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Postby Burninati0n » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:35 pm

No.

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Postby Travda » Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:20 am

I think our efforts would be better spent getting all member states to industrial level status first. If even that. I'm sure some of them are still at the hunter-gatherer state.
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Postby Eireann Fae » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:16 am

Travda wrote:I think our efforts would be better spent getting all member states to industrial level status first. If even that. I'm sure some of them are still at the hunter-gatherer state.


"What is wrong with that?" Episky looks bemused (to anyone that can make out her diminutive features), but Rowan seems to be genuinely insulted. "There is nothing wrong with the Eireann Fae way of life!"

(OOC: My people live in trees, use personal gliders a la Last Airbender, and could be considered quite primitive. They don't even do metal-working :p)

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Postby Mesogiria » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:39 am

Eireann Fae wrote:"What is wrong with that?" Episky looks bemused (to anyone that can make out her diminutive features), but Rowan seems to be genuinely insulted. "There is nothing wrong with the Eireann Fae way of life!"

(OOC: My people live in trees, use personal gliders a la Last Airbender, and could be considered quite primitive. They don't even do metal-working :p)

"Unless I am much mistaken, your people are generally happy, healthy, and prosperous. Many other non-technological or pre-technological societies are not so well off, and are struggling to change their technological status."

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Postby Travda » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:50 am

Eireann Fae wrote:"What is wrong with that?" Episky looks bemused (to anyone that can make out her diminutive features), but Rowan seems to be genuinely insulted. "There is nothing wrong with the Eireann Fae way of life!"

(OOC: My people live in trees, use personal gliders a la Last Airbender, and could be considered quite primitive. They don't even do metal-working :p)

"Well, you see. That is, uh," Karakov mumbles sheepishly. "My comments weren't really directed towards faerie technology. My apologies."

He mumbles under his breath, "Damn tinker bells."
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Postby Eireann Fae » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:33 am

Travda wrote:
Eireann Fae wrote:"What is wrong with that?" Episky looks bemused (to anyone that can make out her diminutive features), but Rowan seems to be genuinely insulted. "There is nothing wrong with the Eireann Fae way of life!"

(OOC: My people live in trees, use personal gliders a la Last Airbender, and could be considered quite primitive. They don't even do metal-working :p)

"Well, you see. That is, uh," Karakov mumbles sheepishly. "My comments weren't really directed towards faerie technology. My apologies."

He mumbles under his breath, "Damn tinker bells."


"The Faeries have even less need of technology than we Humans of Eireann Fae, Ambassador. Massive structures and loud, smelly mechanical items are not necessary to a happy, healthy life. Our connection to nature is quite a bit more valuable, from our perspective, than your attachment to your cold, lifeless gadgets. Mind your words Ambas--" The Faerie Emissary had darted forward, touching her Human companion's lips with her tiny hand. Rowan immediately held her tongue, looking a little sheepish, but still clearly upset. Episky turned to address the Travdan Ambassador herself.

"Femo'aropa melfušin. Færæ ifen pilfu'arnilbu. Ťelo'avfuzæ, oh kah?"

The child appears confused at first, having not heard what the Ambassador had muttered under his breath. The Faerie, of course, had far better senses, and could feel what the Ambassador spiritually projected anyway (the perks of being a Spirit Faerie). Episky looked over her shoulder, and indicated that Rowan should translate the message, which she did, glaring coldly at Karakov, both because of her existing feelings for the Ambassador, and to convey the severity of the words being translated. "Listen carefully, stupid human. Faeries have very good hearing. Speak carefully in the future, okay?"

EDIT: Pronunciation of Episky's words: feh-moe-ah-rope-ah mel-foo-shin. fee-ree ih-fehn pill-foo-ahr-nil-boo. theh-low-ahv-foo-zee, oh kah.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:04 am

Although we harness faster than light travel, we need to consider the safety of the technology: in densely populated systems speed limits are in force in Charlotte Ryberg to control the flow of traffic and prevent collisions. it's not strictly rocket science to consider the safety implications of FTL.

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Postby Monikian WA Mission » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:08 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Although we harness faster than light travel, we need to consider the safety of the technology: in densely populated systems speed limits are in force in Charlotte Ryberg to control the flow of traffic and prevent collisions. it's not strictly rocket science to consider the safety implications of FTL.


Already covered.

3. MANDATES that the ICDFIT upon successful development of faster-than-light interstellar transport capability, make recommendations to member nations for regulations on safety, life support, life saving devices and search and rescue operations;


That said, we have not yet developed FTL ourselves. We have been using devices to open up worm holes in the Space-time continuum but unfortunately our physicists are warning us that we may one day rip too large a hole and endanger everyone. So the solution is either FTL or condemning thousands of species to extinction should their stars go nova.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:11 am

Monikian WA Mission wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Although we harness faster than light travel, we need to consider the safety of the technology: in densely populated systems speed limits are in force in Charlotte Ryberg to control the flow of traffic and prevent collisions. it's not strictly rocket science to consider the safety implications of FTL.


Already covered.

3. MANDATES that the ICDFIT upon successful development of faster-than-light interstellar transport capability, make recommendations to member nations for regulations on safety, life support, life saving devices and search and rescue operations;

I thought it referred to emergency services which used FTL travel.

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Postby Monikian WA Mission » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:19 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:
Monikian WA Mission wrote:
Already covered.


I thought it referred to emergency services which used FTL travel.


A narrow interpretation of 3. could mean simply safety devices used on FTL craft, and Emergency Services using FTL craft. A broad interpretation could mean making recommendations for FTL regulations within densely populated star systems. The Monikian Supreme Council once recommended that should we ever develop FTL on our own we'd likely prohibit its use within the Inner System (the 6 planets and their satellites [natural and artificial] closest to our binary stars).

I'm wondering if I should include a either a mention in that clause about including recommending travel regulations in densely populated systems.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:33 am

Worth a try, but I have a feeling that this draft is better suited as a Free Trade, Mild resolution on the grounds of improving transport methods.

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Postby Darenjo » Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:09 pm

Monikian WA Mission wrote:
Darenjo wrote:Two things:

1. What?

2. (After my initial disbelief) No. Sorry, but I am not helping every nation that pops up in the feeder regions get into space.


Unfortunately you already are remember this?


Damn it.

Still, I will not support this - plus, what about Pre-tech nations that want to stay that way?
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Postby Krioval » Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:15 pm

Monikian WA Mission wrote:
Darenjo wrote:Two things:

1. What?

2. (After my initial disbelief) No. Sorry, but I am not helping every nation that pops up in the feeder regions get into space.


Unfortunately you already are remember this?


Is that what you think that resolution does? How interesting.

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Postby Flibbleites » Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:36 pm

Monikian WA Mission wrote:That said, we have not yet developed FTL ourselves. We have been using devices to open up worm holes in the Space-time continuum but unfortunately our physicists are warning us that we may one day rip too large a hole and endanger everyone. So the solution is either FTL or condemning thousands of species to extinction should their stars go nova.

In other words, you guys are unable to develop it yourselves so you want someone else to give you the technology. Now the Rogue Nation of Flibbleites does not have FTL technology, but if we did our response to this would be TNSTAAFL.

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Postby Monikian WA Mission » Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:17 pm

Flibbleites wrote:
Monikian WA Mission wrote:That said, we have not yet developed FTL ourselves. We have been using devices to open up worm holes in the Space-time continuum but unfortunately our physicists are warning us that we may one day rip too large a hole and endanger everyone. So the solution is either FTL or condemning thousands of species to extinction should their stars go nova.

In other words, you guys are unable to develop it yourselves so you want someone else to give you the technology. Now the Rogue Nation of Flibbleites does not have FTL technology, but if we did our response to this would be TNSTAAFL.

Bob Flibble
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Faliksa Albertron replied.

"Representative Flibble, I'm sure that we'll develop FTL technology quickly, within the next few years or so--the Ministry of Space Exploration approved several decades ago that we research alternative methods of interstellar travel. My nation already has built a scientific colony on one of the moons of our system's outer planets. "

Faliksa looked down for a moment at a device on her desk for a second, after it beeped loudly and silenced it by pressing a button.

"That said, the more we think about it, the more we are coming to the conclusion that FTL technology sharing might not be such a good idea after all. Not every WA nation would be willing to develop the technology, further not every WA nation would use the technology responsibly, indeed may even sell the technology to a nation for purposes other than peaceful transport of cargo and beings."
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Postby The Altani Confederacy » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:00 pm

Yay! More space welfare. Or is it space wealth redistribution?

Either way, we are as utterly opposed to this as we were to the space station nonsense. We Altani are just now taking our first steps into space. We've worked hard and spent a lot of time, research and treasure to get to this level. We see no reason why other nations should not do the same, especially since such hard work, time and research allows nations to get a firm grasp on the concepts and best practices that make space travel and exploration safe and successful. It is just irresponsible to follow any other route.

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Postby Travda » Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:25 pm

Eireann Fae wrote:"The Faeries have even less need of technology than we Humans of Eireann Fae, Ambassador. Massive structures and loud, smelly mechanical items are not necessary to a happy, healthy life. Our connection to nature is quite a bit more valuable, from our perspective, than your attachment to your cold, lifeless gadgets. Mind your words Ambas--" The Faerie Emissary had darted forward, touching her Human companion's lips with her tiny hand. Rowan immediately held her tongue, looking a little sheepish, but still clearly upset. Episky turned to address the Travdan Ambassador herself.

"Femo'aropa melfušin. Færæ ifen pilfu'arnilbu. Ťelo'avfuzæ, oh kah?"

The child appears confused at first, having not heard what the Ambassador had muttered under his breath. The Faerie, of course, had far better senses, and could feel what the Ambassador spiritually projected anyway (the perks of being a Spirit Faerie). Episky looked over her shoulder, and indicated that Rowan should translate the message, which she did, glaring coldly at Karakov, both because of her existing feelings for the Ambassador, and to convey the severity of the words being translated. "Listen carefully, stupid human. Faeries have very good hearing. Speak carefully in the future, okay?"

EDIT: Pronunciation of Episky's words: feh-moe-ah-rope-ah mel-foo-shin. fee-ree ih-fehn pill-foo-ahr-nil-boo. theh-low-ahv-foo-zee, oh kah.

OOC: I figured the faerie would have super sensitive hearing or some such. :lol:

The Travdan Ambassador is flabbergasted at first, but then recovers. "First talking bears, now faeries. This place is a circus!"

He straightens his tie and tries to ignore the pair until he can think of some clever remark to throw back.
"Anyhow. Perhaps if this proposal had been written to make membership in the ICDFIT voluntary rather than mandated charity, it would have had our support."
Monikian WA Mission wrote:...further not every WA nation would use the technology responsibly, indeed may even sell the technology to a nation for purposes other than peaceful transport of cargo and beings

"And that's another point. Can you honestly expect any nation with such technology to only apply it to their civilian transport? I know we wouldn't."
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