Repeal "Suppress International Piracy"

[Crimson PieRats]

Suppress International Piracy
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Mavenu

Description: The World Assembly,

Believing that people should be able to go about their lawful affairs without having to worry about theft, assault or murder,

Recognising that dealing with crimes that occur completely within specific nations and that only affect those own nations’ peoples is a matter for those nations’ own governments,

Believing, however, that any crimes that interfere with international trade and travel and/or that cross national boundaries are matters in which the WA has a legitimate interest,

1. Defines the term ‘Pirates’, for the purpose of this resolution, as meaning people who are not formally recognised agents of any government (although some of them may have informal links to governments, from whom they receive support in exchange for various considerations, or may be at least partly motivated by loyalty to a cause), unlike ‘Privateers’, and who operate in groups to use threats and force to seize vehicles and their cargos — and possibly their passengers, and/or crew, as well — for personal gain, and who may also use ships or other vehicles as transportation for raids against settlements,

2. Defines pirates as 'international pirates’ if they operate across national borders and/or attack international trade,

3. Requires that all WA member nations refrain from giving any international pirates safe haven, or markets for their plunder, or any other support for their operations;

4. Requires all WA member nations to do as much as they reasonably can to suppress international piracy within their own territories;

5. Urges and authorises all WA member nations to do as much as they reasonably can to suppress international piracy within any areas (such as ‘international waters’) that are not under any nation’s effective control, and its bases wherever those are;

6. Requires all WA member nations to treat all offences committed during acts of international piracy that occurred outside of their own territories at least as seriously, as they would treat any comparable crimes committed within those territories and against their own people, if the alleged perpetrators fall into their hands, and authorises them to try people for piratical crimes committed elsewhere;

7. Declares that anybody who is accused of having served knowingly as crew aboard any vehicle being used by international pirates, but who can not be linked to any specific offences, shall be subject to appropriate charges of criminal conspiracy and ‘accessory before the fact’; and that proof of that service shall constitute adequate proof for conviction on those charges, unless they prove that they were forced into that crew on pain of death and served only as a non-combatant in which case courts may be allowed to acquit them;

8. Defines the knowing provision of unforced support for international pirates to be an act of conspiracy to commit those pirates’ crimes, and requires all WA member nations to treat such acts as they would conspiracy to commit any other crimes of comparable seriousness, unless that support is
A/ given only to captive pirates, and within the limits of help that can legally be given to prisoners in general, or
B/ given only to ex-pirates, with whom the legal system has already dealt, and is to help them live honest lives;

9. Strongly urges all WA member nations to act at least as thoroughly against any pirates who operate solely within their own territories as they do against international pirates.

Author: St Edmund.

Repeal WA Resolution 20, “Suppress International Piracy”

The “suppression” of so-called “pirates” is an illegal contradiction of human rights. They are merely people wishing a better life for their families. Would, or could, they not be better identified as Undocumented Seamen, or Pre-Salvage Experts?

The Pre-Salvage Experts which the WA is so ruthlessly attempting to suppress are, in the long run, only advocating an equitable redistribution of wealth from wealthy corporations to those less fortunate through alternate means. This in itself should be a worthy goal, the goal of all right thinking nations who desire equality of outcome for their people. The Undocumented Seamen are in the vanguard of this effort to promote such equitable redistribution. They are in fact the leading citizens of the World Assembly through their assistance programs in relieving the mega-corporations of their ill-gotten gains and excessive profits, gained at the expense of the common people.

Instead of being hunted by the lackeys of the rich corporations, the Pre-Salvage Experts should in fact be celebrated for their continuing efforts in promoting egalitarianism and equality. It is the money-grubbers who wish only to gain profit on the backs of those less able who should be hunted down, no the Undocumented Seamen.

In light of the above, the World Assembly hereby repeals Resolution #20, Suppress International Piracy.

Any and all suggestions or recomendations for improvement will be considered.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Ms. Harper's concern is that if there is too much piracy, world trade will suffer. This is why there is a need for Suppress International Piracy. And what I mean by piracy in this context is different from software/movie piracy.

[Crimson PieRats]

How would trade suffer? The only difference would be that the profits for goods, instead of increasing the already massive wealth of the few, they would be going to those who truly need the profits? How can a more equitable distribution of wealth be considered bad?

[Eireann Fae]

(OOC: Lol'd @ "Pre-Salvage Experts")

[Meekinos]

Repeal WA Resolution 20, “Suppress International Piracy”

The “suppression” of so-called “pirates” is an illegal contradiction of human rights. They are merely people wishing a better life for their families. Would, or could, they not be better identified as Undocumented Seamen, or Pre-Salvage Experts?

It's an illegal contradiction of human rights to prevent theft? To prevent the illegal acquisition of goods and services at the expense of the purveyors and merchants, who are but humble labourers who deserve to be richly compensated for their goods and services? The price of the good or service is determined by the market and the survival depends on the will and desire of the consumer. The merchant who survives is the one who can render goods and/or services for a fair, equitable price as determined by free market forces.

The Pre-Salvage Experts which the WA is so ruthlessly attempting to suppress are, in the long run, only advocating an equitable redistribution of wealth from wealthy corporations to those less fortunate through alternate means. This in itself should be a worthy goal, the goal of all right thinking nations who desire equality of outcome for their people. The Undocumented Seamen are in the vanguard of this effort to promote such equitable redistribution. They are in fact the leading citizens of the World Assembly through their assistance programs in relieving the mega-corporations of their ill-gotten gains and excessive profits, gained at the expense of the common people.

Redistribution? The only thing that ought to be "redistributed" is your priorities on this matter. There are legal means by which to "redistribute" wealth and it's best accomplished through a free market place, where the consumer's pocket book speaks the loudest. They have the power to take their business to those who they feel provide a fair price. Merchants and purveyors are people who too have families to feed, shelter and clothe.

If you wish to speak of "ill-gotten gains" then address the issue of piracy, theft and your common guttersnipe thug. Thievery is about ill-gotten gains. A merchant is earning an honest living by selling goods and/or services in exchange for profit. That profit goes back into the economy in many ways and helps to support other merchants and their kin. The economy is a well-oiled machine when people do not resort to the theft of another's skills.

Instead of being hunted by the lackeys of the rich corporations, the Pre-Salvage Experts should in fact be celebrated for their continuing efforts in promoting egalitarianism and equality. It is the money-grubbers who wish only to gain profit on the backs of those less able who should be hunted down, no the Undocumented Seamen.

You're right, they should instead be hunted by the government, through the police. They ought to be arrested and tried for theft.

[Holy Roman Confederate]

This is nothing more than a self proposed and self serving wealth redistribution scheme. Theft is theft, and this seeks to promote nothing more than criminal acts. The HRC strongly moves for this proposal to be removed from the floor. This proposal would make a mockery of the world economy, fair trade, and commonly held values. Legislation is not meant to provide a morally clean slate for criminal activity nor a free handout to those engaged in criminal enterprise.

[Monikian WA Mission]

contradiction of human rights

Talik' Murzhan rose to speak.

"You know, I grow tired of saying this thousands of times over. Not every nation in the WA is populated by humans.

This is nothing more than a self proposed and self serving wealth redistribution scheme. Theft is theft, and this seeks to promote nothing more than criminal acts. The HRC strongly moves for this proposal to be removed from the floor. This proposal would make a mockery of the world economy, fair trade, and commonly held values. Legislation is not meant to provide a morally clean slate for criminal activity nor a free handout to those engaged in criminal enterprise.

"What they said. I suggest this proposal should be removed for being bloody stupid."

[The Scandinvans]

The Empire, despite not being a member of the World Assembly wishes to offers its input on this particular matter as it is an issue that will impact non-WA nations, does hereby wish to remind the international community that the Empire does stay to true to the doctrine," Whatever a man earns is his to keep". We believe that a man socio-economic status does not entitle him to steal away the wealth of another person either through personal extortion or government actions, for both of these things defy the very foundations of civilization: freedom and capitalism.

Signed,
Imperial Steward,
Lord Erida

[Mesogiria]

contradiction of human rights

Talik' Murzhan rose to speak.

"You know, I grow tired of saying this thousands of times over. Not every nation in the WA is populated by humans.

"Perhaps the esteemed delegate could seek to take the remarks in the spirit in which they are intended, and not on the letter? Given how unlikely you are to be able to change the behavior of all those here."

[Monikian WA Mission]

Talik' Murzhan rose to speak.

"You know, I grow tired of saying this thousands of times over. Not every nation in the WA is populated by humans.

"Perhaps the esteemed delegate could seek to take the remarks in the spirit in which they are intended, and not on the letter? Given how unlikely you are to be able to change the behavior of all those here."

"My friend, if we did, we would be insulted not annoyed."

[Mesogiria]

"Perhaps the esteemed delegate could seek to take the remarks in the spirit in which they are intended, and not on the letter? Given how unlikely you are to be able to change the behavior of all those here."

"My friend, if we did, we would be insulted not annoyed."

"Insulted? Insulted by the concept of equal rights for all? Human rights stands, at least here, as a convenient shorthand for the basic rights of all persons. If that insults you... well, then you should probably prepare to be very oft insulted."

[Monikian WA Mission]

Talik' smirked.

"My friend the insult is not so much in that there is a convention that 'human rights' is taken to mean equal rights of sapient beings. For us the insult comes from being considered to be equal to humans, itself. A majority Monikians consider our people superior to humans as a species, superior culturally, and in many cases superior technologically. I share many if not most of these views which is why I tried to convince the Supreme Council I would not make a good ambassador. And incubating a pod and being away from my wife and children is not improving my mood--fortunately I think the Senior Ambassador has already filed the necessary forms for me to be excused for Paternal Leave."

[Mesogiria]

Talik' smirked.

"My friend the insult is not so much in that there is a convention that 'human rights' is taken to mean equal rights of sapient beings. For us the insult comes from being considered to be equal to humans, itself. A majority Monikians consider our people superior to humans as a species, superior culturally, and in many cases superior technologically. I share many if not most of these views which is why I tried to convince the Supreme Council I would not make a good ambassador. And incubating a pod and being away from my wife and children is not improving my mood--fortunately I think the Senior Ambassador has already filed the necessary forms for me to be excused for Paternal Leave."

"Oh, I see," frowns Ambassador Rodriguez. "You're a racist. Lovely. We've had experience with such 'racial supremicists' in my nation, ambassador, and let me assure you, the results were not pleasant. Please, do refrain from refereing to me as your 'friend' in future, as I am definitely no such thing. Were I a less polite person, I would certainly have somethign sharp to say about your vile and disgusting beliefs, but I am forced to content myself with saying 'good day, sir,' and ignoring you hereafter."

[Mallorea and Riva]

Talik' smirked.

"My friend the insult is not so much in that there is a convention that 'human rights' is taken to mean equal rights of sapient beings. For us the insult comes from being considered to be equal to humans, itself. A majority Monikians consider our people superior to humans as a species, superior culturally, and in many cases superior technologically. I share many if not most of these views which is why I tried to convince the Supreme Council I would not make a good ambassador. And incubating a pod and being away from my wife and children is not improving my mood--fortunately I think the Senior Ambassador has already filed the necessary forms for me to be excused for Paternal Leave."

"Oh, I see," frowns Ambassador Rodriguez. "You're a racist. Lovely. We've had experience with such 'racial supremicists' in my nation, ambassador, and let me assure you, the results were not pleasant. Please, do refrain from refereing to me as your 'friend' in future, as I am definitely no such thing. Were I a less polite person, I would certainly have somethign sharp to say about your vile and disgusting beliefs, but I am forced to content myself with saying 'good day, sir,' and ignoring you hereafter."

Let us stay on topic Honored Ambassadors. Piracy. Mallorea and Riva requires international trade, and I strongly believe in property rights as a necessary part of a functioning economy. This "redistribution" is certainly more inefficient then the systems nations can put into place.