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Time Travel Regulation Act (Abandoned)

Postby American Capitalist » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:18 pm

Time Travel Regulation Act
Category: International Security Strength: Significant
The World Assembly,

OBSERVING that there are zero regulations on time travel at the present, past, or future times;

WORRIED about the danger that time travel can cause to dimensional stability and the events of the world;

BELIEVING that despite those dangers time travel can be fun for the entire family if done responsibly;

DETERMINED to create a forced stable time loop with WA legislation;

Hereby,

DEFINES time travel as the act going into the past from the current date;

REQUIRES that time traveler’s respect other nation’s laws at that time especially those regarding public nudity and murdering people;

BANS time travelers from going back into time and changing history in major ways unless they were meant to;

FURTHER BANS time travelers from appearing on camera or leaving any similar imprint on the past unless they were meant to then it has already happened;

GIVES specific exemption to fruity, funny speaking, dictators who caused mass genocide of an ethnic group and world wide wars;

REQUIRES that time machine creators add safety feature into their time machines in order to stop people from meeting themselves in the past or from going into the future ensuring that they are only able to go to the past and back to he original point in time they traveled from;

FORCES time travelers to ensure their existence in the future so they don’t create a time paradox;

CREATES the Time Travelers Council or TTC an extension of the Global Emigration, Security, Travel And Passport Organisation this organization will hand out time travel business licenses and scrutinize time travelers in order to ensure they will follow the rules listed above;

URGES nations to create further laws that will ensure time travelers do not mess with the time line.


Okay It has been a couple month since I've wrote any WA legislation so I figured now was a good time to jump back into things. Respond with any questions and critiques you can think of I believe I have a pretty strong start and it just needs a few fixes and some more specific language.
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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:22 pm

The problem I see is any change, even the most minor has consequences that are magnified in a timeline moving forward. Let's say you travel into the past and step on a butterfly. Perhaps that butterfly was meant to be the meal of another creature, or was an evolutionary leap forward. Because you have killed the butterfly now that meal will not happen for the intended predator or an evolutionary leap will not occur. See where I'm going with this? Change would result in a massive snowball effect.
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Postby American Capitalist » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:27 pm

Holy Roman Confederate wrote:The problem I see is any change, even the most minor has consequences that are magnified in a timeline moving forward. Let's say you travel into the past and step on a butterfly. Perhaps that butterfly was meant to be the meal of another creature, or was an evolutionary leap forward. Because you have killed the butterfly now that meal will not happen for the intended predator or an evolutionary leap will not occur. See where I'm going with this? Change would result in a massive snowball effect.


I'm not really one who prescribes to the butterfly effect I could ban the killing of Butter Flies and other animals if you want. I'm trying to ensure a stable time loop here without banning time travel it's a tricky piece of legislation however it is a much needed one.
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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:27 pm

The major problem I see is how do you legislate paradox prevention.
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Postby Burninati0n » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:30 pm

We Burninites greatly enjoy your sense of humor.

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Postby American Capitalist » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:31 pm

Holy Roman Confederate wrote:The major problem I see is how to you legislate paradox prevention.

By making it so that only certain people who understand how to do it right can do it thus the licenses. It is tough so the main goal should be to limit them as much as possible. Also to prevent mustachioed dictators from being killed in any way, shape, or form.
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Postby American Capitalist » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:34 pm

BURNINATI0N wrote:We Burninites greatly enjoy your sense of humor.

Thanks with time travel you can never be too serious otherwise you end up hurting your brain.
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Postby Kurdazistan » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:35 pm

:rofl:
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Postby American Capitalist » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:37 pm

Kurdazistan wrote: :rofl:

Can some one get a doctor it appears the ambassador from Kurdazistan has passed out on the floor laughing.
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Postby Frenequesta » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:38 pm

Time Travel involves going into the future too.
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Postby American Capitalist » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:40 pm

Frenequesta wrote:Time Travel involves going into the future too.

You're right I will need to add a clause banning time traveler's from going into the future.
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Postby Hegstoria » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:53 pm

On a pure scientific stand point, time travel to the past is a scientific impossibility. Time travel to the future is the only plausible way to travel through time.
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Postby American Capitalist » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:55 pm

Hegstoria wrote:On a pure scientific stand point, time travel to the past is a scientific impossibility. Time travel to the future is the only plausible way to travel through time.

OOC: I think we need to suspend disbelief then I'm using a mix of sci-fi standards for this legislation. I'm basically trying to create what is known as a Stable Time Loop.
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Postby Hegstoria » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:58 pm

American Capitalist wrote:
Hegstoria wrote:On a pure scientific stand point, time travel to the past is a scientific impossibility. Time travel to the future is the only plausible way to travel through time.

OOC: I think we need to suspend disbelief then I'm using a mix of sci-fi standards for this legislation. I'm basically trying to create what is known as a Stable Time Loop.

OOC: But heres the question we have to ask ourselves, do we want NS to be realistic or not?
Last edited by Hegstoria on Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"Quotation is a serviceable substitute for wit."-Oscar Wilde

Defcon 5: Pax Hegstoriana
Defcon 4: Ehh, things are pretty good, but a bit heated
Defcon 3: War seems near, but not at the moment, and far from the mind
Defcon 2: Get a helmet
Defcon 1: Put on said helmet

Colonies: South-West Hegstodia, The Hegstoria Rhodesian Confederacy(3 independent colonies), Fuair

Major Leaders: President Jonathan F. Shepherd, Vice President Francis P. Sinclair, Minister of the Interior Samuel D. Lisbon, Minister of the Armed Forces General Stanley C. McAlister

Map: -currently under a redesign-

Size: 7,825,600 km^2

Life Expectancy: 84.59 years Courtesy of Unibot

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Postby American Capitalist » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:00 pm

Hegstoria wrote:
American Capitalist wrote:OOC: I think we need to suspend disbelief then I'm using a mix of sci-fi standards for this legislation. I'm basically trying to create what is known as a Stable Time Loop.

OOC: But heres the question we have to ask ourselves, do we want NS to be realistic or not?

OOC: Sort of there needs to be suspension of disbelief there are plenty of WA resolutions that don't use exact science.
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Postby Hegstoria » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:01 pm

American Capitalist wrote:
Hegstoria wrote:OOC: But heres the question we have to ask ourselves, do we want NS to be realistic or not?

OOC: Sort of there needs to be suspension of disbelief there are plenty of WA resolutions that don't use exact science.

OOC: Like what?
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Defcon 5: Pax Hegstoriana
Defcon 4: Ehh, things are pretty good, but a bit heated
Defcon 3: War seems near, but not at the moment, and far from the mind
Defcon 2: Get a helmet
Defcon 1: Put on said helmet

Colonies: South-West Hegstodia, The Hegstoria Rhodesian Confederacy(3 independent colonies), Fuair

Major Leaders: President Jonathan F. Shepherd, Vice President Francis P. Sinclair, Minister of the Interior Samuel D. Lisbon, Minister of the Armed Forces General Stanley C. McAlister

Map: -currently under a redesign-

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Life Expectancy: 84.59 years Courtesy of Unibot

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Postby American Capitalist » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:07 pm

Hegstoria wrote:
American Capitalist wrote:OOC: Sort of there needs to be suspension of disbelief there are plenty of WA resolutions that don't use exact science.

OOC: Like what?

OOC: Perhaps I should phrase that better there are numerous nations that use false science such as most FT nations. There are also several WA proposal that wouldn't be enforceable due to the sheer man power needed. I think that in this case it's perfectly reasonable to believe that real world rules don't apply in nationstates or the WA.
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Postby Frenequesta » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:15 pm

OOC: Agree with American Capitalist above (I'm a fantasy FT nation).

IC: I noticed the clause banning time travelers from appearing on camera would be rather difficult to enforce, and in instances of going into the past would technically make it an ex post facto law on the part of the people in the past time not traveling (that is, if some non-time traveler catches one of the time travelers inadvertently on his/her camcorder would that person be liable for prosecution? Or this provision only limited to the time travelers themselves?).

Also, how exactly does this time travel work?
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Postby American Capitalist » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:19 pm

Frenequesta wrote:OOC: Agree with American Capitalist above.

IC: I noticed the clause banning time travelers from appearing on camera would be rather difficult to enforce, and in instances of going into the past would technically make it an ex post facto law on the part of the people in the past time not traveling (that is, if some non-time traveler catches one of the time travelers inadvertently on his/her camcorder would that person be liable for prosecution? Or this provision only limited to the time travelers themselves?).

Also, how exactly does this time travel work? Are the travelers merely spectators of events or are they in the event themselves?

I'm trying to ensure that in all cases they are merely spectators watching lost cultures as they happened.
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Postby Frenequesta » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:22 pm

American Capitalist wrote:I'm trying to ensure that in all cases they are merely spectators watching lost cultures as they happened.


Good then. So the provisions only apply to those time traveling?
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Postby American Capitalist » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:38 pm

Frenequesta wrote:
American Capitalist wrote:I'm trying to ensure that in all cases they are merely spectators watching lost cultures as they happened.


Good then. So the provisions only apply to those time traveling?

Yes thus why it mentions time travelers specifically.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:49 pm

We intend to oppose this at some point in the future. Perhaps we shall travel there the slow way.
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Postby American Capitalist » Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:04 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:We intend to oppose this at some point in the future. Perhaps we shall travel there the slow way.

That's perfectly fine have fun with that.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:22 pm

Perhaps in order to save time you can write in there a ban on daylight savings time?

Leave the "Time Warp" alone, though, else we shall be forced to destroy your pitiful excuse for a culture.
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Postby American Capitalist » Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:25 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:Perhaps in order to save time you can write in there a ban on daylight savings time?

Leave the "Time Warp" alone, though, else we shall be forced to destroy your pitiful excuse for a culture.

Is that a threat? You know my nation must accept as you clearly do not understand that the "Time Warp" is a great dance and that it is part of many a dance in American Capitalist.
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