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[DRAFT] Ban Autobahns and Highways act

Postby Soviet Enartio » Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:57 pm

"We must ban autobahns and highways to save our nations, Yet no one cares about our nations environment, our environment is a serious thing and you should do what you should do for it, and what I'm doing is Ban the autobahns and highways."

Will it do or should i improve?
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:05 pm

Honoured ambassador, Motorways are sometimes the only option for freight which would otherwise not fit on the rails. Banning them is unlikely to impress many countries where road transport is crucial.

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Postby Meekinos » Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:13 pm

How delightfully communist. This proposal gives a one hundred percent guarantee that your entire economy will go into the shitter.
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Postby Meekinos » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:05 pm

The Canadian Pacific wrote:
Meekinos wrote:How delightfully communist. This proposal gives a one hundred percent guarantee that your entire economy will go into the shitter.

Although we find this proposal shit, I don't see in the slightest how this is communist. In the same vein, you could say any attack on non-religious individuals is delightfully christian.

It's an attack on commerce, a corner to every free market economy. By destroying a portion of the infrastructure that supports, you take aim at capitalism, the antithesis to communism, whether it's explicit through direct language, or implicit through an appeal to emotion. The environment isn't necessarily compromised with the existence of these routes.
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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:15 pm

It's April fool's day already? How time seems to fly. Now go back to the drawing board and draft a proposal, put your heart and soul into the effort and then I can point out every flaw in it.
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Postby Meekinos » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:28 pm

The Canadian Pacific wrote:
Meekinos wrote:It's an attack on commerce, a corner to every free market economy. By destroying a portion of the infrastructure that supports, you take aim at capitalism, the antithesis to communism, whether it's explicit through direct language, or implicit through an appeal to emotion. The environment isn't necessarily compromised with the existence of these routes.

Again, by the same logic any harm caused to non-religious people is Christian.

What's this "Christian" you keep speaking of? And what did he (she?) do or not do to you...?
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Postby The Altani Confederacy » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:42 pm

Soviet Enartio wrote:"We must ban autobahns and highways to save our nations, Yet no one cares about our nations environment, our environment is a serious thing and you should do what you should do for it, and what I'm doing is Ban the autobahns and highways."

Will it do or should i improve?


This isn't a draft. This is barely even a coherent paragraph. So, yes, you would need to do a lot more, especially if you want to convince us to support something as economically suicidal and gridlock-inducing as banning highways.

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Postby Meekinos » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:36 pm

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Meekinos wrote:What's this "Christian" you keep speaking of? And what did he (she?) do or not do to you...?

(ooc: Using RW reference as a substitute for argument doesn't work when you use them as well).

ooc: here's the key difference -- I don't capitalise my references, which keeps them generic. You're capitalising the word "Christian", therefore it has the potential of being a real world reference. Also, it can be a person's name.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:51 pm

Soviet Enartio wrote:"We must ban autobahns and highways to save our nations, Yet no one cares about our nations environment, our environment is a serious thing and you should do what you should do for it, and what I'm doing is Ban the autobahns and highways."

Will it do or should i improve?


We have a recomendation for significant improvement of this. We call it a shredder.

In other words, we find this to be among the more pointless and idiotic proposals we have had the misfortune to waste time reading.
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Postby Embolalia » Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:54 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:We have a recomendation for significant improvement of this. We call it a shredder.
I tried to put my copy in the shredder. It's so short I almost cut my finger off.
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Postby Flibbleites » Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:08 pm

Embolalia wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:We have a recomendation for significant improvement of this. We call it a shredder.
I tried to put my copy in the shredder. It's so short I almost cut my finger off.

Heck, it's so short I don't dare try to use it as toilet paper.

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Postby Embolalia » Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:12 am

The Canadian Pacific wrote:
Meekinos wrote:What's this "Christian" you keep speaking of? And what did he (she?) do or not do to you...?

What "free market" you keep speaking of? (ooc: Using RW reference as a substitute for argument doesn't work when you use them as well).

"Free market" isn't really a RW reference. It's an economic concept that does exist IRL, but so are taxes, tariffs, and plenty of other things that are accepted as not just IRL. (Although, attacking an argument because it uses a RL reference when a non-IRL reference would work exactly as well isn't exactly a strong argument.)
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Postby Kryozerkia » Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:50 am

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Meekinos wrote:ooc: here's the key difference -- I don't capitalise my references, which keeps them generic. You're capitalising the word "Christian", therefore it has the potential of being a real world reference. Also, it can be a person's name.

OOC: The mods ruled on this with "February" not being RW reference iirc

That is only in terms of proposals. Not in regards to roleplaying.
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Postby Mikedor » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:39 am

Okay, we'll reclassify our highways as turnpikes. Potential transport issues: averted.
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Postby Embolalia » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:52 am

Mikedor wrote:Okay, we'll reclassify our highways as turnpikes. Potential transport issues: averted.

We would have to do quite a bit of reclassifying. In Embolalia, a "highway" is a major, at-grade throughfare (OOC: Think US Numbered Highways or A-roads in the UK). Oddly, this would ban those, but not the wide, grade-separated, high-speed roads that, in Embolalia, are classified as "expressways".
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Postby Monikian WA Mission » Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:40 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Soviet Enartio wrote:"We must ban autobahns and highways to save our nations, Yet no one cares about our nations environment, our environment is a serious thing and you should do what you should do for it, and what I'm doing is Ban the autobahns and highways."

Will it do or should i improve?


We have a recomendation for significant improvement of this. We call it a shredder.

In other words, we find this to be among the more pointless and idiotic proposals we have had the misfortune to waste time reading.


Talik' Murzhan, Jr Ambassador for Monikian WA Mission rose to address the issue--as it did not warrant input by his superiors.

"We agree with the Delegation from Grays Harbor. Indeed would dare suggest that such a proposal would it actually be proposed would likely fall under the category of 'bloody stupid' not to mention that motorway construction does not need to be addressed on the international level. Let nations determine for themselves what if anything they wish to spend on motorway infrastructure."
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Postby Mousebumples » Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:16 pm

Here's a question that's necessary to determine if this has even a snowball's chance in hell of becoming an actual proposal. (Please note that I did not mention that it could ever be a viable proposal ... That seems highly unlikely)

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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:48 pm

Mikedor wrote:Okay, we'll reclassify our highways as turnpikes. Potential transport issues: averted.


Excellent idea.

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Postby Mesogiria » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:03 pm

Meekinos wrote:How delightfully communist. This proposal gives a one hundred percent guarantee that your entire economy will go into the shitter.

Wait, what? Since when do communists not need roads? Damn, have they developed personal flight devices?

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Postby Meekinos » Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:41 am

Mesogiria wrote:
Meekinos wrote:How delightfully communist. This proposal gives a one hundred percent guarantee that your entire economy will go into the shitter.

Wait, what? Since when do communists not need roads? Damn, have they developed personal flight devices?

Oh please, everyone knows communists prefer dirt and gravel. It's very proletariat. ;)
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Postby Monikian WA Mission » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:12 am

The Monikian delegation sincerely hopes that the Meekinos delegation is jesting. We after all do have an economic system that would be classified as "communist" by many and yet we not only do have paved roads we have even developed personal transport devices which "fly" well actually hover about 7 meters off the ground.

The fact that some "communist" states may prefer dirt/gravel roads for wheeled conveyances is not indicative of the entirety of that ideological spectrum. It is our experience that Ideology has nothing to do with the technological advancement of a society as we know many libertarian capitalist nations which are still living in grass huts and others which are spacefaring.
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Postby Meekinos » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:12 am

Monikian WA Mission wrote:The Monikian delegation sincerely hopes that the Meekinos delegation is jesting. We after all do have an economic system that would be classified as "communist" by many and yet we not only do have paved roads we have even developed personal transport devices which "fly" well actually hover about 7 meters off the ground.

The fact that some "communist" states may prefer dirt/gravel roads for wheeled conveyances is not indicative of the entirety of that ideological spectrum. It is our experience that Ideology has nothing to do with the technological advancement of a society as we know many libertarian capitalist nations which are still living in grass huts and others which are spacefaring.

ooc: Surely the ( ;) ) was a fair indication of our jest.
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Postby Soviet Enartio » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:51 am

Don't people realise, we can make hover cars, right?
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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:53 am

Soviet Enartio wrote:Don't people realise, we can make hover cars, right?


And this is relevent how?
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Postby Meekinos » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:53 am

Soviet Enartio wrote:Don't people realise, we can make hover cars, right?

But as it's already been pointed out, not all nations are able to.
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