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[CONCEPT] Reducing Compulsory Retirement

Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:54 am

Inspired by the Senior Citizens Act, I was thinking about a simple resolution which bans compulsory retirement and affirms the right to retirement, while allowing member states to set a threshold of retirement of their choice (a la Threshold of Majority). It could go under Free trade, Mild, on the basis of improving economic efficiency and encouraging citizens to work as long as they like. Let's give it a try.

Could it be simplified further? Feel free to say so! Even though Charlotte Ryberg is a free market economy and has a established welfare-linked pension system I will try to cater for every ideology. As for the WHA, existing committees can be mentioned and even if the parent resolution is repealed it will continue to exist (although at a capacity proportional to the remaining duties).

Reducing Compulsory Retirement

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Category: Free Trade
The resolution intends to increase the workforce capacity by reducing compulsory retirement and giving citizens flexibility in working for as long as they like.

Strength: Mild
It only affects a specific age group, so it is not that big.

Rationale for consideration by the WA: Ms. Sarah Harper seeks to help member countries boost their workforce capacity, be it for economic or social good, by reducing a barrier in employment. All ideologies will be respected.

UNDERSTANDING that, regardless of ideology, both the right to retirement and the efficiency of the workforce are important issues which should be addressed to keep the services of member countries running;

CONCERNED that a worker may not be able to support themselves if they have to retire without earning a satisfactory pension, which in turn puts pressure on the member countries' welfare programmes;

FURTHER CONCERNED that the economic or workforce capability of member countries, regardless of ideology, may be compromised if their citizens were required to retire at a specific threshold;

SEEKING to increase economic or workforce capability by reducing the use of compulsory retirement and allowing citizens of member countries to choose when to retire;

In this resolution:

• “Threshold of Retirement” is a threshold where an individual is eligible to claim their pension(s) or make use of elderly social services;
• “Compulsory retirement” may not be confused with dismissal usually as a result of poor performance in a jobs, redundancy due to job cuts, or retirement due to jobs which are either temporary, fixed-period, or role in which job security is conditional on promotion after a certain amount of time in the role;

The General Assembly hereby introduces the following measures:

1. In all member countries, compulsory retirement shall be restricted to political and judicial offices and cases where a worker is no longer capable of doing their jobs properly for reasons such as safety or severe mental or physical disability;

2. Member countries must adopt a Threshold of Retirement for each sapient species within their jurisdiction, provided that such threshold occurs at a point where the individual is of an appropriate and/or sufficient economic capacity to claim their pension(s) or make use of elderly social services;

3. Member countries will at least:
• Respect the right of their inhabitants to choose whether and/or when to retire after the Threshold of Retirement;
• Allow inhabitants with mental or physical disabilities to retire beforehand where such action would be in their best interests;

4. In addition to clause 3, member countries may opt-in to allow their inhabitants to retire before the Threshold of Retirement;

5. Member countries will not force any of their inhabitants to work against their wishes after the Threshold of Retirement, except for:
• Compulsory military or alternative service;
• Work mandated as part of a criminal sentence;

6. The World Health Authority will be pleased to help, on the request of member countries, recommend a sensible Threshold of Retirement for each of their species that is compliant with the intent and purpose of this resolution.
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Postby Mesogiria » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:00 am

Would this apply to political post as well? Mesogiria, and I am certain other nations as well, mandate the retirement of national judges at age 70, as in the past life-time tenure resulted in several judges retaining their posts in poor health long after they should have retired.

OOC: There's lots of RL countries that mandate retirement ages for judges. This isn't just economic, its political as well.

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:02 am

Mesogiria wrote:Would this apply to political post as well? Mesogiria, and I am certain other nations as well, mandate the retirement of national judges at age 70, as in the past life-time tenure resulted in several judges retaining their posts in poor health long after they should have retired.

OOC: There's lots of RL countries that mandate retirement ages for judges. This isn't just economic, its political as well.

I could add an exception to political posts if there is a consensus.

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Postby Mesogiria » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:05 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:
Mesogiria wrote:Would this apply to political post as well? Mesogiria, and I am certain other nations as well, mandate the retirement of national judges at age 70, as in the past life-time tenure resulted in several judges retaining their posts in poor health long after they should have retired.

OOC: There's lots of RL countries that mandate retirement ages for judges. This isn't just economic, its political as well.

I could add an exception to political posts if there is a consensus.

We would appreciate it. Absent any other major changes, my government indicates that it would certainly gain our support.

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Postby Meekinos » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:34 am

In its current form we can certainly support this.
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Postby Bears Armed » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:02 am

OOC, quick post:
1/ 'I'd classify this as 'Human Sapient Rights' rather than 'Free Trade'.
2/ You also need to allow exceptions in cases where people simply aren't capable of doing those jobs properly any longer.
3/ Please word this so that it clearly doesn't ban shorter-term contracts than ones that would automatically last "for life" (or, at least, until retirement).
4/ What about jobs with an "up or out" requirement, wherein people who don't qualify for promotion after spending a certain amount of time at some particular grade have to leave?
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Postby Philimbesi » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:05 am

Tenative support.

However Ms Harper, but we have a concern. There are some cases where a retirement is in the best interest of the citizen. For example a job that has become too strenuous but where the citizen fails to accept that is the case. Such as possibly a firefighter, or factory worker. The citizen may love their postition but not be able to complete the tasks safely.


As well as the the case of "retire or be terminated" where the company is doing away with the position or where retirement is offered as a way to "save face" in the light of actions taken by the employee.

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:30 am

Okay, I've posted the latest round of revisions. I've basically written the resolution with the idea of boosting the capacity of member states' workforces by reducing compulsory retirement, thereby increasing economic capacity. Maybe the title is a bit inappropriate. Should it have been called "Reducing Compulsory Retirement"?
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Postby Eireann Fae » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:55 am

Rowan reads the posted draft aloud to the Faerie Emissary, Episky. When she finishes, Episky gives her a quizzical look. "That's all it says," the girl tells her, with a shrug. "I guess they ran out of ink." Episky shrugs as well, and they both turn to face the Assembly. Rowan resumes her work as translator for the Eireann Fae representative.

"It is our opinion that this proposal is far more in line with what we believe to be a proper retirement-related resolution than the idea recently tossed before the Assembly. We fully support the idea, but we must ask... What happened to the 6th Clause? We have a pen if you wish to borrow it..."

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:59 am

Eireann Fae wrote:Rowan reads the posted draft aloud to the Faerie Emissary, Episky. When she finishes, Episky gives her a quizzical look. "That's all it says," the girl tells her, with a shrug. "I guess they ran out of ink." Episky shrugs as well, and they both turn to face the Assembly. Rowan resumes her work as translator for the Eireann Fae representative.

"It is our opinion that this proposal is far more in line with what we believe to be a proper retirement-related resolution than the idea recently tossed before the Assembly. We fully support the idea, but we must ask... What happened to the 6th Clause? We have a pen if you wish to borrow it..."

Number 6 was a clause that was superseded jointly by a disambiguation clause on "compulsory retirement" and a change in the first clause to reduce compulsory retirement rather than throwing in exemptions.
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Postby Eireann Fae » Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:06 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Number 6 was a clause that was superseded jointly by a disambiguation clause on "compulsory retirement" and a change in the first clause to reduce compulsory retirement rather than throwing in exemptions.


"Oh, so you just hadn't finished erasing it yet. I understand."

(OOC: I don't know if it was just me or a bug on the forum, but when I posted, there was half a sentence as the sixth clause :p)

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Postby Mesogiria » Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:28 am

1. In all member countries, compulsory retirement shall be limited to political and judicial roles and cases where a worker is no longer capable of doing their jobs properly for reasons such as safety or severe mental or physical disability;

"This is considered sufficient by my government, we can now extend tentative support," said Ambassador Rodriguez.

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Postby Turtatalia » Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:44 am

We support you, Madam, as always, however, if you were to support this to the House, I suggest that you add in the preposition "on" to make it sound more sensible, and not like an "empty" proposal.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:53 am

There's a WA resolution called "Preparing for Disasters", and it worked quite well. However Ms. Harper remains committed to ensure that the title of the draft is appropriate: Reducing Compulsory Retirement should be fine but bear in mind that even the title has a character limit (it's not up to me on whether to increase the character limit or not).

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Postby Embolalia » Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:55 am

It is the belief of this ambassador that, while the overall beneficial effect of the resolution afore-proposed would certainly be one of an altogether limited and mild nature, it would most assuredly be beneficial as mentioned previously. Furthermore, the objectionable consequences, if at all extant, would be predominated by the aforementioned positive aspects. Be it further known that, given this ambassador's dearth of productive admonitions, it has been his decision to deliver, in lieu of the aforementioned productive admonitions, the obfuscated exhortation which has herein been delivered.
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Postby Philimbesi » Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:59 am

Embolalia wrote:It is the belief of this ambassador that, while the overall beneficial effect of the resolution afore-proposed would certainly be one of an altogether limited and mild nature, it would most assuredly be beneficial as mentioned previously. Furthermore, the objectionable consequences, if at all extant, would be predominated by the aforementioned positive aspects. Be it further known that, given this ambassador's dearth of productive admonitions, it has been his decision to deliver, in lieu of the aforementioned productive admonitions, the obfuscated exhortation which has herein been delivered.


Nigel squints and looks at the Fine Yeldan Brandy he'd been sipping on. Then back at the Embolalian delegation. then at the brandy... then over at Max his translator.

"And..... I quit" Max says....
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Postby Eireann Fae » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:09 pm

Philimbesi wrote:
Embolalia wrote:It is the belief of this ambassador that, while the overall beneficial effect of the resolution afore-proposed would certainly be one of an altogether limited and mild nature, it would most assuredly be beneficial as mentioned previously. Furthermore, the objectionable consequences, if at all extant, would be predominated by the aforementioned positive aspects. Be it further known that, given this ambassador's dearth of productive admonitions, it has been his decision to deliver, in lieu of the aforementioned productive admonitions, the obfuscated exhortation which has herein been delivered.


Nigel squints and looks at the Fine Yeldan Brandy he'd been sipping on. Then back at the Embolalian delegation. then at the brandy... then over at Max his translator.

"And..... I quit" Max says....


Rowan leans to whisper to Nigel, "I think he supports it. He's pretty verbose about it, though..."

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Postby Mesogiria » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:16 pm

Eireann Fae wrote:
Philimbesi wrote:


Nigel squints and looks at the Fine Yeldan Brandy he'd been sipping on. Then back at the Embolalian delegation. then at the brandy... then over at Max his translator.

"And..... I quit" Max says....


Rowan leans to whisper to Nigel, "I think he supports it. He's pretty verbose about it, though..."

(OOC: You make a perl programmer proud with that level of obfuscation, Embolalia player :p)


"That level of verbosity should be practically criminal," mutters Ambassador Rodriguez.

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Postby Philimbesi » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:20 pm

Rowan leans to whisper to Nigel, "I think he supports it. He's pretty verbose about it, though..."


Nigel smiled "Excellent! For a minute there I thought Senator Sulla had put something in my Brandy... well more than he normally puts in my Brandy that is. Huzzah!"
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Postby Absolvability » Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:57 am

We see only one thing with this that could potentially keep us from supporting it...
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:4. Member countries will not force any of their inhabitants, against their wishes, to work after the Threshold of Retirement;

We would like there to be some allowance made for compulsory community service, in such case as a retired person breaks the law. Nothing extreme, obviously.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:15 pm

Revised to:
4. Member countries will not force any of their inhabitants, against their wishes, to work after the Threshold of Retirement, except for work mandated as a correctional measure;

I know that The Social Security draft is being reworked on, but it seems that it doesn't reflect the need to maximise the WA-zone workforce. Either way I'll try to make both compatible with each other. To be honest we need more Free Trade resolutions, and Free Trade can also mean stimulating the economy of the world.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:34 pm

Tentative support. This does not appear overly onerous or intrusive, and steers fair well clear of overt micromanagement of a nations or businesses policies.
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:10 pm

Eireann Fae wrote:Rowan reads the posted draft aloud to the Faerie Emissary, Episky. When she finishes, Episky gives her a quizzical look. "That's all it says," the girl tells her, with a shrug. "I guess they ran out of ink." Episky shrugs as well, and they both turn to face the Assembly. Rowan resumes her work as translator for the Eireann Fae representative.

"It is our opinion that this proposal is far more in line with what we believe to be a proper retirement-related resolution than the idea recently tossed before the Assembly. We fully support the idea, but we must ask... What happened to the 6th Clause? We have a pen if you wish to borrow it..."


That may be your opinion, but you fail to ask yourself why 11.9 % do not work in your nation? Did they seek early retirement?
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:15 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:Tentative support. This does not appear overly onerous or intrusive, and steers fair well clear of overt micromanagement of a nations or businesses policies.


Of course, because you do fine job with that yourself, with the 100% tax rate.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:16 pm

Parti Ouvrier wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:Tentative support. This does not appear overly onerous or intrusive, and steers fair well clear of overt micromanagement of a nations or businesses policies.


Of course, because you do fine job with that yourself, with the 100% tax rate.


Not germane to the debate. Please stick to the topic, ambassador. If you can, that is.
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