[DRAFT]Militia Act

[Parti Ouvrier]

Militia Act

Category: Furtherment of democracy

Strength: Significant

A resolution to establish a workers militia.

Description

This nation as Communists are against the standing army and for the arming of people into a militia. This will not be granted easily, it has to be won. This body will grow out of the class struggle, by for example, defending picket lines, demonstrations, workplace occupations and fighting off fascists.

BELIEVING: That as the class struggle becomes increasingly intense, the conditions will be set to win over sections of the military, thus allowing workers to arm themselves. The working class must equip themselves with the most advanced weaponry possible.

DEMANDING:

-Rank and file personnel in the state’s armed bodies must be
protected from bullying, humiliation being used
against the working class.

-The establishment of full trade union and democratic rights,
including the right to form bodies such as soldiers’ councils.

-The privileges of the officer caste must be abolished. Officers
must be elected. Workers in uniform for example security guards, prison officers, must become the allies of
the masses in struggle.

-The people have the right to bear arms and protect themselves

[Greenlandic People]

I imagine that this resolution will quickly draw the ire of any nation which does not support the principles of class struggle and universal proletariat. The member states of the World Assembly have an intrinsic right to decide for themselves what model of socio-economics they shall pursue. We therefore unfortunately cannot support the forced, unilateral implementation of Marxist principles which this resolution appears to advocate for.

~Sigismund Ibsen,
Greenlandic Ambassador to the World Assembly

[Mousebumples]

First: Category and Strength?

Second: Illegal due to branding, at the very least.

[Absolvability]

The Ambassador of Parti Ouvrier (is that french for 'party over here?') might be wise to examine and endeavor to correct the problems with their last proposal before starting new ones.

[Eireann Fae]

The small girl from the Eireann Fae delegation walks in, followed shortly by the Faerie Emissary, Episky. The former takes a seat while the latter flies forth to read the posted proposition. Shaking her head, Episky flies to the girl's shoulder, and whispers something into her ear. The girl speaks up to the Assembly.

"It seems, Ambassador, that you wish to legislate what are clearly state issues on an international scale. You apparently do not seem to realize that what you propose here is neither wanted nor necessary in many Nations. Let's talk about why this is..."

The nation of Parti Ouvrier as Communists are against the standing army and for the arming of people into a militia. This will not be granted easily, it has to be won. This body will grow out of the class struggle, by for example, defending picket lines, demonstrations, workplace occupations and fighting off fascists.

"First of all," continues the girl, the diminutive faerie constantly giving her messages to relay to the Assembly, "not every nation is against a standing army, and it is not for you or the World Assembly to decide that Nations can not have their own standing military. You are free, of course, to dispense with your own standing army and arm your entire citizenry, as is your right. You must realize, however, that other Nations see the benefits in a standing army, and the detriments of arming everybody. Not every Nation is Communist, and not every nation has workers - or indeed, any sort of peasantry - that requires an armed militia to be their champions. Private police forces and national militaries exist in most nations for the reasons you seem to think a militia is needed."

-Rank and file personnel in the state’s armed bodies must be
protected from bullying, humiliation being used
against the working class.

"Bullying is, unfortunately, going to happen. Do you seriously advocate an armed response is the answer? It seems to me that your 'solution' is a good way to start a civil war. If I mis-read this clause, and your grievance is with members of Nation's military 'bullying' the working class, then as I said in my preamble, this is a problem specific to your Nation. Not every Nation employs characters of such ill repute for their standing armies."

-The establishment of full trade union and democratic rights,
including the right to form bodies such as soldiers’ councils.

"Many nations are already fully democratic; for instance, Eireann Fae. Other nations have no wish or need of democracy, as is their wont. Some nations allow their citizenry to take up arms and form a militia, including such bodies as your proposed soldier's counsel. Some nations do not allow their citizens to be armed at all. It is not the Assembly's place to enforce either legal construct."

-The privileges of the officer caste must be abolished. Officers
must be elected. Workers in uniform for example security guards, prison officers, must become the allies of
the masses in struggle.

"Again, this is far beyond the scope of this legislative body. What gives you the right tell every other nation in the entire World Assembly that they can no longer have appointed Officers? Who are you to decide that a simple security guard must take up arms against the supposed tyranny of his state?"

-The people have the right to bear arms and protect themselves

"People certainly have the right to be protected, but it is the opinion of the Eireann Fae that there are better methods to go about this. We do not support one iota of the proposed legislation."

The girl and Emissary Episky take their seats, conversing quietly with one another.

[Parti Ouvrier]

First: Category and Strength?

Second: Illegal due to branding, at the very least.

Fixed.

[The Emmerian Unions]

This nation as Communists are against the standing army and for the arming of people into a militia. This will not be granted easily, it has to be won. This body will grow out of the class struggle, by for example, defending picket lines, demonstrations, workplace occupations and fighting off fascists.

NO! NO! A THOUSAND TIMES NO! Still a vauge attempt at branding. Get rid of this ENTIRE section.

[Holy Roman Confederate]

This just screams "invade me and destroy the government creating such a proposal". But thats just my opinion.

[Parti Ouvrier]

This nation as Communists are against the standing army and for the arming of people into a militia. This will not be granted easily, it has to be won. This body will grow out of the class struggle, by for example, defending picket lines, demonstrations, workplace occupations and fighting off fascists.

NO! NO! A THOUSAND TIMES NO! Still a vauge attempt at branding. Get rid of this ENTIRE section.

Please elaborate.

[Parti Ouvrier]

This just screams "invade me and destroy the government creating such a proposal". But thats just my opinion.

Given the name of your nation, why am I not surprised by that response.

[Greenlandic People]

This nation as Communists are against the standing army and for the arming of people into a militia. This will not be granted easily, it has to be won. This body will grow out of the class struggle, by for example, defending picket lines, demonstrations, workplace occupations and fighting off fascists.

NO! NO! A THOUSAND TIMES NO! Still a vauge attempt at branding. Get rid of this ENTIRE section.

OOC: In other words the NationStates world, as a result of being entirely removed from our own real life world, has not necessarily witnessed the same cultural/philosophical developments as our Earth. Therefore, you cannot mention "Communism" because it is a reference to the real world and illegal under the branding rule.

[The Emmerian Unions]

This just screams "invade me and destroy the government creating such a proposal". But thats just my opinion.

I do agree. This is a worthless piece of crap and the Ambassador from Parti Ouvrier should feel ashamed.

NO! NO! A THOUSAND TIMES NO! Still a vauge attempt at branding. Get rid of this ENTIRE section.

Please elaborate.

<<OOC: "This nation as Communists" refers to the nation that is proposing it.>>

[Parti Ouvrier]

The small girl from the Eireann Fae delegation walks in, followed shortly by the Faerie Emissary, Episky. The former takes a seat while the latter flies forth to read the posted proposition. Shaking her head, Episky flies to the girl's shoulder, and whispers something into her ear. The girl speaks up to the Assembly.

"It seems, Ambassador, that you wish to legislate what are clearly state issues on an international scale. You apparently do not seem to realize that what you propose here is neither wanted nor necessary in many Nations. Let's talk about why this is..."

The nation of Parti Ouvrier as Communists are against the standing army and for the arming of people into a militia. This will not be granted easily, it has to be won. This body will grow out of the class struggle, by for example, defending picket lines, demonstrations, workplace occupations and fighting off fascists.

"First of all," continues the girl, the diminutive faerie constantly giving her messages to relay to the Assembly, "not every nation is against a standing army, and it is not for you or the World Assembly to decide that Nations can not have their own standing military. You are free, of course, to dispense with your own standing army and arm your entire citizenry, as is your right. You must realize, however, that other Nations see the benefits in a standing army, and the detriments of arming everybody. Not every Nation is Communist, and not every nation has workers - or indeed, any sort of peasantry - that requires an armed militia to be their champions. Private police forces and national militaries exist in most nations for the reasons you seem to think a militia is needed."

-Rank and file personnel in the state’s armed bodies must be
protected from bullying, humiliation being used
against the working class.

"Bullying is, unfortunately, going to happen. Do you seriously advocate an armed response is the answer? It seems to me that your 'solution' is a good way to start a civil war. If I mis-read this clause, and your grievance is with members of Nation's military 'bullying' the working class, then as I said in my preamble, this is a problem specific to your Nation. Not every Nation employs characters of such ill repute for their standing armies."

-The establishment of full trade union and democratic rights,
including the right to form bodies such as soldiers’ councils.

"Many nations are already fully democratic; for instance, Eireann Fae. Other nations have no wish or need of democracy, as is their wont. Some nations allow their citizenry to take up arms and form a militia, including such bodies as your proposed soldier's counsel. Some nations do not allow their citizens to be armed at all. It is not the Assembly's place to enforce either legal construct."

-The privileges of the officer caste must be abolished. Officers
must be elected. Workers in uniform for example security guards, prison officers, must become the allies of
the masses in struggle.

"Again, this is far beyond the scope of this legislative body. What gives you the right tell every other nation in the entire World Assembly that they can no longer have appointed Officers? Who are you to decide that a simple security guard must take up arms against the supposed tyranny of his state?"

-The people have the right to bear arms and protect themselves

"People certainly have the right to be protected, but it is the opinion of the Eireann Fae that there are better methods to go about this. We do not support one iota of the proposed legislation."

The girl and Emissary Episky take their seats, conversing quietly with one another.

This could take an entire essay to explain. The short answer is that you show extraordinary naivety, 'social chauvinism' and not fully developed class consciousness.

[Holy Roman Confederate]

I find your statement of the small girl lacking a "fully developed class consciousness" amusing. You represent a classless system. Typical ignorant arrogance.

[Parti Ouvrier]

I find your statement of the small girl lacking a "fully developed class consciousness" amusing. You represent a classless system. Typical ignorant arrogance.

Well thank you.

[Holy Roman Confederate]

I find your statement of the small girl lacking a "fully developed class consciousness" amusing. You represent a classless system. Typical ignorant arrogance.

Well thank you.

The HRC appreciates your proving of our point with three simple words.

[Eireann Fae]

This could take an entire essay to explain. The short answer is that you show extraordinary naivety, 'social chauvinism' and not fully developed class consciousness.

The girl and the Faerie Emissary break from their discourse and gaze steadily at the Ambassador. Emissary Episky scoffs at the statement, and they continue their muted conversation.

[Parti Ouvrier]

Well thank you.

The HRC appreciates your proving of our point with three simple words.

Firstly it was partly a joke, and it may sound arrogant, but it is true, only (and I'm qouting Israeli revolutionary, Moshe Machover), 'socialists know what's best for society'. And far from me being imposing, it needs to be international, workers of NationStates unite. It's about the self-emancipation of the working class. A lot of the stuff in this resolution is to do with propaganda effect and not written in stone. In NationSates nothing bad will happen, but in RL without self-emancipation, be prepared to suffer the consequences, need I remind you that austerity has not worked in Ireland. [1]

Notes

1) Weekly Worker'No national solution' By Anne Mcshane.
http://www.cpgb.org.uk/article.php?article_id=1004130

[Holy Roman Confederate]

save it for your next workers party meeting as a way to lighten the mood after your bread line debate.

[Kryozerkia]

Yep, this proposal is totally not kosher either. Given that it clearly favours communists at the expense of fascists and that it seeks to abolish class systems, it would fall under an ideological ban. By dictating that a democratic system be used, your proposal is effectively attempting to ban non-democratic ideologies.

[Socialist EU]

Yep, this proposal is totally not kosher either. Given that it clearly favours communists at the expense of fascists and that it seeks to abolish class systems, it would fall under an ideological ban. By dictating that a democratic system be used, your proposal is effectively attempting to ban non-democratic ideologies.

Ahistorical nonsense. The abolishing of class systems is a long-term goal of course. And I suspect this ideological ban is an improvisation on your part.

[Balthorvia]

Yep, this proposal is totally not kosher either. Given that it clearly favours communists at the expense of fascists and that it seeks to abolish class systems, it would fall under an ideological ban. By dictating that a democratic system be used, your proposal is effectively attempting to ban non-democratic ideologies.

Ahistorical nonsense. The abolishing of class systems is a long-term goal of course. And I suspect this ideological ban is an improvisation on your part.

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Read them.

[Socialist EU]

Ahistorical nonsense. The abolishing of class systems is a long-term goal of course. And I suspect this ideological ban is an improvisation on your part.

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18

Read them.

Thank you. But since it is just a game, why are ideological bans taken so seriously?

[Balthorvia]

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18

Read them.

Thank you. But since it is just a game, why are ideological bans taken so seriously?

A lot of people like to play this game seriously and treat it as if it were a real simulation of international politics and relations; basically like a mock UN. I do a similar thing with role-playing in the International Incidents section.

From a more "legal" perspective, rules have been placed against ideological bans in order to prevent somebody from totally outlawing another player's chosen national model. I imagine, for example, that you would be quite outraged if the World Assembly passed a resolution banning your nation from implementing Socialist policies.

[Mousebumples]

Thank you. But since it is just a game, why are ideological bans taken so seriously?

If I had to guess, the point is to allow all players to have whatever sort of government type they would like - ideologically speaking. (dictatorship, democracy, communist state, etc.) Some actions can certainly be outlawed - i.e. torture - but ideologies cannot be banned or outlawed.