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the Evans
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Re: DRAFT: World carbon trading scheme

Postby the Evans » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:31 pm

There are several ways of thinking of this scheme, instead of thinking of it like a tax try thinking of it as just another commodity to be traded, hopefully that way it becomes obvious how it is not a tax.

The WCB simply exists to supply credits if the entire world has a deficit, which may happen when the scheme is first introduced but hopefully will not happen once the scheme is up and running. Once the WCB is taken out of the equation how can this possibly be a tax? It's just another commodity (in fact you could view it as a way to stimulate trade)

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Re: DRAFT: World carbon trading scheme

Postby Deschenek » Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:35 pm

EDIT: sorry I mistook carbon as the commodity stead of carbon credits.
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Re: DRAFT: World carbon trading scheme

Postby the Evans » Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:29 pm

How would a lot of commodity get produced? The only way commodity can be produced is either:
1) Once a year, every person gets some
2) People can buy or sell credits with the WCB, but this will only be done if the market for credits is dry or flooded (respectively) since it doesn't make economic sense to buy/sell at the deliberately bad rates the WCB offers unless no one else is selling (shortage of carbon credits) or everyone is selling (the situation you seem to be suggesting, but will never happen)

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Re: DRAFT: World carbon trading scheme

Postby Bears Armed » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:00 am

the Evans wrote:The credits are allocated per citizen, which means they simply pop into existence once every year, they disappear when carbon is emitted. The amount of credits will be determined as the total amount of carbon which is safe to be emitted into the atmosphere/Number of people on the planet.

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1/. The WA's member nations aren't all located on just one single, shared planet.
2/. WA member-nations are outnumbered approximately 4:1 by non-member nations, which cannot be affected by this proposal but presumably also produce pollution.

How do you intend to deal with these aspects of the matter?
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Re: DRAFT: World carbon trading scheme

Postby the Evans » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:11 am

Well, I didn't know they weren't located on one planet, however I would imagine the issues of pollution/health problems will exist on all human occupied planets eventually.

Non member nations could opt into the scheme, however there is no absolute way to deal with non member nations.

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Re: DRAFT: World carbon trading scheme

Postby Malikov » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:27 am

the Evans wrote:Well, I didn't know they weren't located on one planet, however I would imagine the issues of pollution/health problems will exist on all human occupied planets eventually.

Non member nations could opt into the scheme, however there is no absolute way to deal with non member nations.


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