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Congus
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Sale of Nuclear Weapons, Material, Technology

Postby Congus » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:08 pm

The Nuclear Test ban proposal got me thinking. Here is another thought I am having trouble getting out and I am not sure of the legalities of it. Looking for suggestions, advice, assistance, etc.



NOTING the danger presented by the spread nuclear weapons, nuclear matierals and nuclear technology

RESOLVES

 The sale of fully functional nuclear weapons to be illegal
 The sale of technology that can assist in the development of nuclear weapons to be illegal
 The sale on components necessary to the development of nuclear weapons to be illegal

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New La Habana
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Postby New La Habana » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:10 pm

Congus wrote:The Nuclear Test ban proposal got me thinking. Here is another thought I am having trouble getting out and I am not sure of the legalities of it. Looking for suggestions, advice, assistance, etc.



NOTING the danger presented by the spread nuclear weapons, nuclear matierals and nuclear technology

RESOLVES

 The sale of fully functional nuclear weapons to be illegal
 The sale of technology that can assist in the development of nuclear weapons to be illegal
 The sale on components necessary to the development of nuclear weapons to be illegal


No, that proposal would be illegal. It would entail removing the uranium industry from any nation that is in the WA......
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Congus
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Postby Congus » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:14 pm

What if it concentrated on the sale of fully funtional weapons?

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Freeoplis
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Postby Freeoplis » Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:07 pm

This would effectively mean an eventual end to nuclear warfare if a Nation cannot procure such weapons, this whilst we would be in support can see no future in this proposal due to a lack of overall support.
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Brickilini
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Postby Brickilini » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:34 pm

Yet another proposal which limits our options and compromises our security while faced with non-member states? The Opressed Peoples decline to support such a resolution.

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Lord Zannah
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Postby Lord Zannah » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:17 pm

Brickilini wrote:Yet another proposal which limits our options and compromises our security while faced with non-member states? The Opressed Peoples decline to support such a resolution.



What if it reads Nations cannot sell nuclear weapons to non-WA Nations?

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Holy Roman Confederate
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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:23 pm

This would limit other industries besides just the uranium mining industry. Think of the equipment that is used for high quality optical lense manufacture. You do realize those same machines are used in the production of uranium and plutonium spheres where extreme tolerances are required? This is another attempt at closing the nuclear club to those already present. The HRC cannot and will not support this measure.
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=78531
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=79073&p=3753933#p3753933

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Brickilini
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Postby Brickilini » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:32 pm

Lord Zannah wrote:
Brickilini wrote:Yet another proposal which limits our options and compromises our security while faced with non-member states? The Opressed Peoples decline to support such a resolution.



What if it reads Nations cannot sell nuclear weapons to non-WA Nations?[/quote]We would view this favorably.
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Holy Roman Confederate
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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:34 pm

That would be illegal I think, as it would effect non WA nations.
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=78531
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=79073&p=3753933#p3753933

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The North Hordes
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Postby The North Hordes » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:37 pm

Holy Roman Confederate wrote:That would be illegal I think, as it would effect non WA nations.

And us Non-WA nations would just sell them to eachother.
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The Emmerian Unions
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Postby The Emmerian Unions » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:42 pm

Or get them from Non-government affliated organizations.
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The North Hordes
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Postby The North Hordes » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:48 pm

The Emmerian Unions wrote:Or get them from Non-government affliated organizations.

Yeah, what s/he said.
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Desperate Measures wrote:
The North Hordes wrote:It's a trade-off:
"White guys can't jump."
"Black guys can't swim."
Just kidding
I have absolutely no idea why, probably just coincidence.

Holy shit! I just tried to jump and nothing happened.
Galloism wrote:
I think if he was still on your property, you could also shoot him witha bow & arrow.

Now, if the old lady had done that, this story would have been epic.

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The Emmerian Unions
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Postby The Emmerian Unions » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:01 pm

The North Hordes wrote:
The Emmerian Unions wrote:Or get them from Non-government affliated organizations.

Yeah, what s/he said.


Yes. There are even secret organizations that could even be used to get around this thing.<<Yes, I am a he.>>
The Cake is a lie!
<<Peace through Fear and Superior Firepower>>

STOP AMERICAN IMPERIALISM? America is ANTI-IMPERIAL!
Ifreann wrote:"And in world news, the United States has recently elected Bill Gates as God Emperor For All Time. Foreign commentators believe that Gates' personal fortune may have played a role in his victory, but criticism from the United States of Gates(as it is now known) has been sparse and brief."
For good Russian Rock Radio, go here.
Please note, I rarely go into NSG. If I post there, please do not expect a response from me.
ALL HAIL THE GODDESS REPLOID PRODUCTIONS!

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The North Hordes
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Postby The North Hordes » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:03 pm

The Emmerian Unions wrote:
The North Hordes wrote:
The Emmerian Unions wrote:Or get them from Non-government affliated organizations.

Yeah, what s/he said.


Yes. There are even secret organizations that could even be used to get around this thing.<<Yes, I am a he.>>

So why is the WA trying to give the future me an advantage?
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Desperate Measures wrote:
The North Hordes wrote:It's a trade-off:
"White guys can't jump."
"Black guys can't swim."
Just kidding
I have absolutely no idea why, probably just coincidence.

Holy shit! I just tried to jump and nothing happened.
Galloism wrote:
I think if he was still on your property, you could also shoot him witha bow & arrow.

Now, if the old lady had done that, this story would have been epic.

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New Korongo
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Postby New Korongo » Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:43 am

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As uranium is New Korongo's chief export we must dissaprove of your proposal.

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Mikedor
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Postby Mikedor » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:15 am

The sale of technology that can assist in the development of nuclear weapons to be illegal

Bye-bye civil nuclear power.
Welcome to 1938.

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Ille-Povrois
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Postby Ille-Povrois » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:09 pm

From the Ille-Povrois Bureau of International Affairs:

The Government of Ille-Povrois fully supports the dialogue between nations and all peaceful ways of understanding.
Unfortunatelly, we believe that this proposal has no political strengh since several nations among WA members are advocates from nuclear weapons.
We should really support dimishing the use, commerce and testing nuclear weapons in our world, but we will only achieve this goal with stronger arguments.

Truly yours,

Countess Emilie Possé-Doujon


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