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WA Peacekeeping/Defense Force

Postby Congus » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:08 pm

Need lots of help with this. Have the thought in my mind but having trouble getting it out. Looking for constructive criticism, suggestions, assistance, etc. Maybe this is just a very bad idea (or an illegal one). Not looking for bashing or flaming but feel free if you most.



WA Peacekeeping/Defense Force

REALIZING that WA members are outnumbered by non members by about 5 to 1,

ACKNOWLEDGING the fact that only WA members are required to comply with WA resolutions,

REALIZING that the many WA members are unable to defend themselves if attacked by one or more non-WA Nations,

PROPOSES the creation of a WA Peacekeeping/Defense Force – WAPDF - to assist WA nations against unprovoked attacks within their territory by non-WA Nations.

I. Creation of the World Assembly Military Intervention Committee -WAMIC
a. Committee will consist of twenty-one WA delegates,
b. Committee members serve a three month term with a two term limit,
c. Committee Chairpersonship will be selected by majority vote of the committee members at the beginning of each session,
d. Committee is granted the authority to use the Peacekeeping/Defense Force troops, funding, logistical support, etc as it sees fit to meet the objectives set forth by the committee to end conflict.
e. If committee decides intervention is appropriate a vote of the entire WA body is required before military action can commence.

II. Participation by the WA members if completely voluntary. Those nations willing to participate may do so in any capacity they see fit, i.e. troops, funding, intelligence, technical support, logistical support, etc.

III. Any WA member nation requesting assistance may do so by formally petitioning the World Assembly.

IV. The WAMIC reserves the right to deny any petition it feels violates the spirit of the WAPDF’s charter, i.e. conflict was not unprovoked, petitioning nation is more then capable of defending itself, instantiating nation is a WA member nation, all attempts at a diplomatic solution have not yet been exhausted, etc.Instigating

V. WAPDF ground troops will operate solely on the petitioning WA nation territory and are prohibited from entering non-WA territory. WAPDF can execute air strikes outside the petitioning territory if Military Command deems it necessary to obtain said objectives.
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Postby Brickilini » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:15 pm

OOC: This proposal is illegal. I violates the rules regarding the establishment of a military/police force and rules regarding committees. :(

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Postby Congus » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:18 pm

Is there a way to make it legal or is it flat out not a possibility?

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Postby The Emmerian Unions » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:18 pm

Congus wrote:Is there a way to make it legal or is it flat out not a possibility?


Flat out impossibility.
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Postby Severania » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:40 pm

I like the idea, but it is illegal.

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Postby Brickilini » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:53 pm

Is it possible to draft a treaty of mutual support?

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Postby The Emmerian Unions » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:57 pm

Brickilini wrote:Is it possible to draft a treaty of mutual support?


I don't think there is, however, I will defer to the older members of this cesspool as they know more.
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Postby Flibbleites » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:10 pm

The Emmerian Unions wrote:
Brickilini wrote:Is it possible to draft a treaty of mutual support?


I don't think there is, however, I will defer to the older members of this cesspool as they know more.

It might be possible but if it is, the difficulty would be right up there with an international currency proposal and trying to write a legal one of those was once described as "trying to navigate a mine field, on a pogo stick, drunk and blindfolded."

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Postby The Emmerian Unions » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:15 pm

Flibbleites wrote:
The Emmerian Unions wrote:
Brickilini wrote:Is it possible to draft a treaty of mutual support?


I don't think there is, however, I will defer to the older members of this cesspool as they know more.

It might be possible but if it is, the difficulty would be right up there with an international currency proposal and trying to write a legal one of those was once described as "trying to navigate a mine field, on a pogo stick, drunk and blindfolded."


You forgot deaf, so you can't hear the 'click' of a mine becoming active enough to kill you.
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Postby Enn » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:17 pm

What's wrong with just setting up an I.G.N.O.R.E. Cannon? It's worked plenty well to defend Enn against foreign attack. Less useful for dealing with civil wars, but them's the breaks.

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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:39 pm

Flibbleites wrote:It might be possible but if it is, the difficulty would be right up there with an international currency proposal and trying to write a legal one of those was once described as "trying to navigate a mine field, on a pogo stick, drunk and blindfolded."

I can imagine a type of WA peacekeeping force, based on a previous ruling. The World Assembly could declare various areas in need of peacekeeping, then pay nations who send out peacekeepers. We wouldn't be able to command them on the ground, though.

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Postby Enn » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:42 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:
Flibbleites wrote:It might be possible but if it is, the difficulty would be right up there with an international currency proposal and trying to write a legal one of those was once described as "trying to navigate a mine field, on a pogo stick, drunk and blindfolded."

I can imagine a type of WA peacekeeping force, based on a previous ruling. The World Assembly could declare various areas in need of peacekeeping, then pay nations who send out peacekeepers. We wouldn't be able to command them on the ground, though.

I would imagine the exact writing of this into a proposal would be what Flib meant by "trying to navigate a mine field, on a pogo stick, drunk and blindfolded."
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:16 am

Enn wrote:I would imagine the exact writing of this into a proposal would be what Flib meant by "trying to navigate a mine field, on a pogo stick, drunk and blindfolded."

It wouldn't be difficult at all. You're just setting up a committee to make a list, then paying nations who send peacekeepers to the places on that list.

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Postby GeneralHaNor » Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:30 am

I hear alot about compliance, but after reading every single resolution that hasn't been repealed, I see no mention of gnomes, or ministries of compliance anywhere

Maybe I'm mistaken, but if someone could point this out to me.
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Postby James Bluntus » Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:00 am

GeneralHaNor wrote:I hear alot about compliance, but after reading every single resolution that hasn't been repealed, I see no mention of gnomes, or ministries of compliance anywhere

Maybe I'm mistaken, but if someone could point this out to me.


It's in the FAQ. However, let me give you a run down because you are new.

First off. Welcome to the game!!! I have been on here for about a year or so now.

With compliance, you don't have to do anything. It is automatic and you receive a telegram after a resolution has passed to inform you that laws have been enacted to comply with the resolution that has just passed. You have to comply with every resolution whether it applies to you or not.
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Postby GeneralHaNor » Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:10 am

James Bluntus wrote:
GeneralHaNor wrote:I hear alot about compliance, but after reading every single resolution that hasn't been repealed, I see no mention of gnomes, or ministries of compliance anywhere

Maybe I'm mistaken, but if someone could point this out to me.


It's in the FAQ. However, let me give you a run down because you are new.

First off. Welcome to the game!!! I have been on here for about a year or so now.

With compliance, you don't have to do anything. It is automatic and you receive a telegram after a resolution has passed to inform you that laws have been enacted to comply with the resolution that has just passed. You have to comply with every resolution whether it applies to you or not.


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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:12 am

The idea of the WA Peacekeeping/Defense Force is illegal under proposal rules. I see the idea of peacekeeping but the WA has no authority to do so.

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Postby Enn » Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:44 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:The idea of the WA Peacekeeping/Defense Force is illegal under proposal rules. I see the idea of peacekeeping but the WA has no authority to do so.


Flibbleites wrote:It might be possible but if it is, the difficulty would be right up there with an international currency proposal and trying to write a legal one of those was once described as "trying to navigate a mine field, on a pogo stick, drunk and blindfolded."


You know better than Flib with his Mod Hat on now?
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:21 am

Enn wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:The idea of the WA Peacekeeping/Defense Force is illegal under proposal rules. I see the idea of peacekeeping but the WA has no authority to do so.


Flibbleites wrote:It might be possible but if it is, the difficulty would be right up there with an international currency proposal and trying to write a legal one of those was once described as "trying to navigate a mine field, on a pogo stick, drunk and blindfolded."


You know better than Flib with his Mod Hat on now?

Keeping it straightforward is the idea. ;)

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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:53 am

Canadai wrote:You start wondering where the fuck we get this much money. How many dozens of committees, inspection teams, and compliance gnomes do we have?

Look at the number of WA nations there are. Look at the size of their GDP. There you go!

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Postby Flibbleites » Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:54 pm

Enn wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:The idea of the WA Peacekeeping/Defense Force is illegal under proposal rules. I see the idea of peacekeeping but the WA has no authority to do so.


Flibbleites wrote:It might be possible but if it is, the difficulty would be right up there with an international currency proposal and trying to write a legal one of those was once described as "trying to navigate a mine field, on a pogo stick, drunk and blindfolded."


You know better than Flib with his Mod Hat on now?

Um, that comment was made regarding a mutual defense pact, not a peacekeeping force.

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:26 pm

Brickilini wrote:Is it possible to draft a treaty of mutual support?

With the vastly diverse membership of the WA, comprising thousands of nations with many different conflicting interests, not to mention all the WA members who hate each other's guts and are possibly warring with each other as we speak -- even if it was possible, do you really think it wise?
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Postby Vitoriasa » Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:22 pm

As has been said, this is illegal.
I honestly cant see a way to make this 'legal', in any way, shape, or form.
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