[DRAFT] Extradition and Rights

[Linux and the X]

(Human Rights; Strong)

NOTING that States that are not members of this Assembly may request from member States extradition of their citizens,

REGRETTING that some non-member States may, after extraditing a citizen, act in ways that violate the rights said citizen would be guaranteed by this Assembly in a member State, but

ACKNOWLEDGING that this Assembly has no direct power over non-member States,

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY, in order to protect the rights of those citizens,

ESTABLISHES the non-Internal Non-compliance Organisation for Management (I-NOM)

TASKS the I-NOM with maintaining High International Table and List of non-Extraditable Remote States (HITLERS), which shall list and have information about those non-member States that violate the rights established by this Assembly,

FORBIDS member States from extraditing any person to a non-member State listed on the HITLERS, but also

MAKES AN EXCEPTION ALLOWING member States to make such an extradition if the non-Member state is on HITLERS for reasons that are not relevant to the person being extradited, and

CLARIFIES that nothing in this resolution shall be considered to forbid a person from electing to be returned home should both their home nation and the nation they are held in agree to such action.

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[Embolalia]

(Human Rights; Strong)

NOTING that States that are not members of this Assembly may request from member States extradition of their citizens,

REGRETTING that some non-member States may, after extraditing a citizen, act in ways that violate the rights said citizen would be guaranteed by this Assembly in a member State, but

ACKNOWLEDGING that this Assembly has no direct power over non-member States,

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY, in order to protect the rights of those citizens,

Good so far.

ESTABLISHES the non-Internal Non-compliance Organisation for Management (I-NOM)

I-NOM? Better than UNIBOT, I suppose... but do we really need a committee for this?

TASKS the I-NOM with maintaining High International Table and List of non-Extraditable Remote States (HITLERS), which shall list and have information about those non-member States that violate the rights established by this Assembly,

Godwin's law already?

FORBIDS member States from extraditing any person to a non-member State listed on the HITLERS, but also

MAKES AN EXCEPTION ALLOWING member States to make such an extradition if the non-Member state is on HITLERS for reasons that are not relevant to the person being extradited, and

Wouldn't it just be easier to make the, er, HITLERS, simply a list of those nations that violate the relevant rights?

CLARIFIES that nothing in this resolution shall be considered to forbid a person from electing to be returned home should both their home nation and the nation they are held in agree to such action.

Meh.

[Manticore Reborn]

Although my government understands the intent of this proposal, the Star Kingdom of Manticore Reborn cannot support this in its' present form. There appear to be several contradictions and glaring loopholes.

[Linux and the X]

Although my government understands the intent of this proposal, the Star Kingdom of Manticore Reborn cannot support this in its' present form. There appear to be several contradictions and glaring loopholes.

Ambassador, we have these discussions because few proposals are of sufficient quality to be international law when first written. Therefore, when writing proposals, one submits a draft for discussion so that the "contradictions and glaring loopholes" you mention can be fixed. Authors do not need to be informed that they exist; what we want is to know what they are. As you evidently see them, my office (as would any proposal author) would like you to inform us of what you see.

[The State of Utah]

It is the Opinion of the State of Utah that some states may have valid reasons even if they are oppressive in nature to request extradition.

It is the Un-weighted opinion of this state that compels me to acknowledge that because we have no vote, we have no voice; however as an observer The State of Utah wishes to at least announce its opinion.

Some States may have "oppressive" Policies which one state may hold as tyrannical, while another views it as a legitimate security concern. The prime and most notable example this Observer believes would be that of freedom of speech. This State is almost religious in its conviction to freedom of speech. We have only cut it on one course of speech, Religious defamation. All others, even racist speech has been held legal. It is impossible to neatly fit nations, especially non-member nations, into a nice tidy list.

There is also no guarantee of protecting such Citizens. The State may simply "force" the extradition through means that could be called an Act of War... This State however would never commit to such actions. This Observer also notes... It is equally possible to deny business and cross border traffic to Member States of the World Assembly, This has often come up in our Legislature because of the often difficult business environment that this state must deal with when trading with Nation States inside the GA.

This State considers this Resolution passed or unpassed, ineffective, and a prime reason why The State of Utah will not surrender its National Sovereignty to the GA.

However, we as a nation do acknowledge your rights to pass such laws. And to the Author of this legislation, you may be pleased to note that the Supreme Court of Our State has made a very surprising ruling.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Ha ha.

[Kryozerkia]

We had enough of a shitstorm over GESTAPO as an acronym, can you please spare the mods and not invoke Godwin's law on this?

[Linux and the X]

We had enough of a shitstorm over GESTAPO as an acronym, can you please spare the mods and not invoke Godwin's law on this?

But it's funny! Besides, it took time to think of. Time I will never get back. (I can't quite tell if this is a serious complaint. If it is, I'll change it to something more ridiculous.)

It is the Opinion of the State of Utah that some states may have valid reasons even if they are oppressive in nature to request extradition.

If the reason for extradition is unrelated to the reason the nation is on HITLERS, then it may be performed.

Some States may have "oppressive" Policies which one state may hold as tyrannical, while another views it as a legitimate security concern.

This only applies to violations of rights guaranteed by this Assembly.

There is also no guarantee of protecting such Citizens. The State may simply "force" the extradition through means that could be called an Act of War...

It would be slightly silly to declare war over the refusal to extradite one person.

And to the Author of this legislation, you may be pleased to note that the Supreme Court of Our State has made a very surprising ruling.

I have seen this ruling, and my government is quite happy about it. However, while the idea was admittedly prompted by that law, we feel that citizens of other nations (nations which may not be willing to admit their mistakes) should be protected.

[Linux and the X]

We had enough of a shitstorm over GESTAPO as an acronym, can you please spare the mods and not invoke Godwin's law on this?

Would it be enough to simply remove the acronym but keep the name?

Unless there are further comments, we shall be submitting this shortly.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Unless there are further comments, we shall be submitting this shortly.

You really shouldn't. It poorly written.

[Linux and the X]

Unless there are further comments, we shall be submitting this shortly.

You really shouldn't. It poorly written.

Given the lack of suggested improvements, this shall be submitted later today.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Given the lack of suggested improvements, this shall be submitted later today.

I'll make sure to make time to report it, then.

[Linux and the X]

Given the lack of suggested improvements, this shall be submitted later today.

I'll make sure to make time to report it, then.

Alternatively, you could make yourself helpful.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Alternatively, you could make yourself helpful.

I don't see the purpose, since all you've written is a joke proposal.

[Unibot]

Better than UNIBOT, I suppose...