NATION

PASSWORD

Re: Gaming Rights and Regulations

Where WA members debate how to improve the world, one resolution at a time.

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Holy Roman Confederate
Diplomat
 
Posts: 894
Founded: Aug 01, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:33 am

I'm almost inclined to hope another delegate steps forward just to keep things interesting.
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=78531
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=79073&p=3753933#p3753933

User avatar
Sanctaria
Issues Editor
 
Posts: 7897
Founded: Sep 12, 2008
New York Times Democracy

Postby Sanctaria » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:34 am

Holy Roman Confederate wrote:I'm almost inclined to hope another delegate steps forward just to keep things interesting.


I'm tempted, but I already approved the Repeal the ICC and I don't feel like approving another non-debated proposal, no matter how interesting it may make things.
Divine Federation of Sanctaria

Ideological Bulwark #258

Dr. Bethany Greer ORD, Sanctarian Ambassador to the World Assembly
Author of:
GA#109 GA#133 GA#176 GA#201 GA#222 GA#297
GA#590 (Co)
Frisbeeteria wrote:Do people not realize that moderators can tell when someone is wanking?

Luna Amore wrote:Sanc is always watching. Ever vigilant.

Auralia wrote:Your condescending attitude is remarkably annoying.

User avatar
Quelesh
Minister
 
Posts: 2942
Founded: Jun 09, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Quelesh » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:50 am

Approved for the lulz.
"I hate mankind, for I think myself one of the best of them, and I know how bad I am." - Samuel Johnson

"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." - George Bernard Shaw
Political Compass | Economic Left/Right: -7.75 | Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -10.00

User avatar
Glen-Rhodes
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9027
Founded: Jun 25, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Glen-Rhodes » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:58 am

Quelesh wrote:Approved for the lulz.

:roll: If it passes, I'm blaming you.

User avatar
Holy Roman Confederate
Diplomat
 
Posts: 894
Founded: Aug 01, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:59 am

Outstanding! I'm all over this like a fat kid on pie, and we all know how fat kids love pie.
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=78531
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=79073&p=3753933#p3753933

User avatar
Unibot
Senator
 
Posts: 4292
Founded: May 25, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Unibot » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:02 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:
Quelesh wrote:Approved for the lulz.

:roll: If it passes, I'm blaming you.


Dharma : Land of the Free and Frolicsome.

User avatar
Quadrimmina
Minister
 
Posts: 2080
Founded: Mar 20, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Quadrimmina » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:30 pm

Unibot wrote:
Glen-Rhodes wrote:
Quelesh wrote:Approved for the lulz.

:roll: If it passes, I'm blaming you.


Dharma : Land of the Free and Frolicsome.

Yes. :D
Sincerely,
Alexandra Kerrigan, Ambassador to the World Assembly from the Republic of Quadrimmina.
National Profile | Ambassadorial Profile | Quadrimmina Gazette-Post | Protect, Free, Restore: UDL

Authored:
GA#111 (Medical Research Ethics Act)
SC#28 (Commend Sionis Prioratus)
GA#197 (Banning Extrajudicial Transfer)

Co-authored:
GA#110 (Identity Theft Prevention Act)
GA#171 (Freedom in Medical Research)
GA#196 (Freedom of Information Act)

User avatar
Quelesh
Minister
 
Posts: 2942
Founded: Jun 09, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Quelesh » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:56 pm

I fucking love to frolic. 8)
"I hate mankind, for I think myself one of the best of them, and I know how bad I am." - Samuel Johnson

"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." - George Bernard Shaw
Political Compass | Economic Left/Right: -7.75 | Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -10.00

User avatar
Embolalia
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1670
Founded: Apr 03, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Embolalia » Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:52 pm

Bergnovinaia wrote:I pray this gets murdered when it reaches vote (because it will, assuredly reach vote, unless someone immediately takes action and sends out campaign tg's against it.

Working on it. Hope it's not too late...
Do unto others as you would have done unto you.
Bible quote? No, that's just common sense.
/ˌɛmboʊˈlɑːliːʌ/
The United Commonwealth of Embolalia

Gafin Gower, Prime minister
E. Rory Hywel, Ambassador to the World Assembly
Gwaredd LLwyd, Lieutenant Ambassador to the World Assembly
Author: GA#95, GA#107, GA#132, GA#185
Philimbesi wrote:Repeal, resign, or relax.

Embassy Exchange
EBC News
My mostly worthless blog
Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51
Liberal atheist bisexual, and proud of it.
@marcmack wrote:I believe we can build a better world! Of course, it'll take a whole lot of rock, water & dirt. Also, not sure where to put it."

User avatar
Bergnovinaia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 7314
Founded: Jul 26, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Bergnovinaia » Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:56 pm

Quelesh wrote:Approved for the lulz.


*Prepares an immediate motion for the removal of Quelesh from the Dharmian WA Delegate seat.
I am pursuing my undergraduate degree from Texas A&M University in Psychology and Spanish. My goal in life is to be a marriage and family counselor. If you have questions about me or my life, just ask!

My girlfriend and I blog about Christian & general marriage, relationship, and dating advice!

NS member since 2009. WA Resolution Author (mostly all repealed), NS sports fanatic.

User avatar
Embolalia
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1670
Founded: Apr 03, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Embolalia » Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:07 pm

Quelesh wrote:Approved for the lulz.

You'll be getting a TG from me urging you to reconsider. Sorry, I forgot to pull you out of the list.

Anyway, I already got one to reconsider, it seems. The Soviet Federal Republics of Karaden, I thank you for your sanity.
Do unto others as you would have done unto you.
Bible quote? No, that's just common sense.
/ˌɛmboʊˈlɑːliːʌ/
The United Commonwealth of Embolalia

Gafin Gower, Prime minister
E. Rory Hywel, Ambassador to the World Assembly
Gwaredd LLwyd, Lieutenant Ambassador to the World Assembly
Author: GA#95, GA#107, GA#132, GA#185
Philimbesi wrote:Repeal, resign, or relax.

Embassy Exchange
EBC News
My mostly worthless blog
Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51
Liberal atheist bisexual, and proud of it.
@marcmack wrote:I believe we can build a better world! Of course, it'll take a whole lot of rock, water & dirt. Also, not sure where to put it."

User avatar
Quelesh
Minister
 
Posts: 2942
Founded: Jun 09, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Quelesh » Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:32 pm

Approval withdrawn. I want it to be right there on the cusp of approval. :lol:
"I hate mankind, for I think myself one of the best of them, and I know how bad I am." - Samuel Johnson

"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." - George Bernard Shaw
Political Compass | Economic Left/Right: -7.75 | Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -10.00

User avatar
Krayt III
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 4
Founded: Aug 30, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Krayt III » Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:54 pm

Serrland wrote:Good Lord, it only needs five more approvals in just over a day. Why oh why don't people post their proposals here for debate first?!


This was posted in another Thread a few days ago.

User avatar
Embolalia
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1670
Founded: Apr 03, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Embolalia » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:49 pm

Quelesh wrote:Approval withdrawn. I want it to be right there on the cusp of approval. :lol:

Oh, it's there. As of right now, 71 minutes, one approval below quorum. It's going to be close.
Do unto others as you would have done unto you.
Bible quote? No, that's just common sense.
/ˌɛmboʊˈlɑːliːʌ/
The United Commonwealth of Embolalia

Gafin Gower, Prime minister
E. Rory Hywel, Ambassador to the World Assembly
Gwaredd LLwyd, Lieutenant Ambassador to the World Assembly
Author: GA#95, GA#107, GA#132, GA#185
Philimbesi wrote:Repeal, resign, or relax.

Embassy Exchange
EBC News
My mostly worthless blog
Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51
Liberal atheist bisexual, and proud of it.
@marcmack wrote:I believe we can build a better world! Of course, it'll take a whole lot of rock, water & dirt. Also, not sure where to put it."

User avatar
Krayt III
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 4
Founded: Aug 30, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Krayt III » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:54 pm

In the last 3 hours it went from 55 to 52 to 53 back to 52. its going to be real close.

User avatar
United Marktoria
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1205
Founded: Oct 24, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby United Marktoria » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:59 pm

Krayt III wrote:In the last 3 hours it went from 55 to 52 to 53 back to 52. its going to be real close.

The bold was due to my uncertainty. :)
Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.03
Conserative Morality wrote:He stares into your soul and says 'If you oppose Freedom, I will rip out your heart and fertilize my fields with your blood, afterwords, I will construct architectural marvels with your bones and write entire books on your cured skin.'
You can tell a lot about a man's intentions from his stare.

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Tungookska wrote:you mean like the 12 guys and the prostitute that he hung out with?

That's not a commune. That's a rugby team. ;)

Ifreann wrote:I'm an atheist because God spoke to me through a burning pile of evidence bush and said unto me "Go forth, and piss my people off!".

User avatar
Embolalia
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1670
Founded: Apr 03, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Embolalia » Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:04 pm

No! It made it back to the queue! I've telegrammed the new approvals, hopefully I'll catch them before they sign off...
EDIT: Although, I think if it makes it to midnight, that isn't a full guarantee that it will go to vote. I think it can drop out of quorum after that. Midnight tonight is just when it would have had its deadline, so that's the time that shows up. Maybe if it drops down tomorrow, it'll fall out for good?
Last edited by Embolalia on Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Do unto others as you would have done unto you.
Bible quote? No, that's just common sense.
/ˌɛmboʊˈlɑːliːʌ/
The United Commonwealth of Embolalia

Gafin Gower, Prime minister
E. Rory Hywel, Ambassador to the World Assembly
Gwaredd LLwyd, Lieutenant Ambassador to the World Assembly
Author: GA#95, GA#107, GA#132, GA#185
Philimbesi wrote:Repeal, resign, or relax.

Embassy Exchange
EBC News
My mostly worthless blog
Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51
Liberal atheist bisexual, and proud of it.
@marcmack wrote:I believe we can build a better world! Of course, it'll take a whole lot of rock, water & dirt. Also, not sure where to put it."

User avatar
Lord Zannah
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 25
Founded: Aug 20, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Lord Zannah » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:12 pm

Its back to 52 again.

User avatar
GeneralHaNor
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6996
Founded: Sep 03, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby GeneralHaNor » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:51 pm

It's in Que
I can't believe this is actually going to vote.
This is not what this body of nations was designed for.

Let it be said, I will oppose this, with as much passion as I oppose, or support issues that actually matter.

And I already have legalized gaming.
So that tells you my level of conviction
Victorious Decepticons wrote:If they said "this is what you enjoy so do this" and handed me a stack of my favorite video games, then it'd be far different. But governments don't work that way. They'd hand me a dishrag...
And I'd hand them an insurgency.
Trotskylvania wrote:Don't kid yourself. The state is a violent, destructive institution of class dictatorship. The fact that the proles have bargained themselves the drippings from their master's plates doesn't legitimize the state.

User avatar
Unibot
Senator
 
Posts: 4292
Founded: May 25, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Unibot » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:49 pm

Using some extrapolated statistic data, related to a weak correlation with proposal length and a high correlation of stackers, assuming that 10ki and Alsted will stomp, I've made a weighted average based on correlation and predicted the final turnout to be a record low, % 13.45 approval.

Using standard deviation (p(X < 50)) that only provides me with like 25 to 9 odds (0.35736) that this passes, so that has to be wrong. Anyone better at constructing betting odds?
Last edited by Unibot on Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Argonia and Gergoniva
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 51
Founded: Apr 14, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Argonia and Gergoniva » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:13 am

Someone actually telegrammed us earlier on today asking for us to support this bill. Once more we must declare our objections to this bill. It is overreaching and interferes in what is purely a matter for individual nations to decided. We will decide our own gambling regulations, right down from the minimum age to whether or not it's legal to wear pink socks at a blackjack table, and no one else.

- Dr. Rupert Thorpe, Argonivan Ambassador to the WA
Last edited by Argonia and Gergoniva on Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:13 am, edited 1 time in total.
Political Compass: E: -7.25, S: -7.44

Nation Info
Demonym: Argonivan
President: Ian Latham
Prime Minister: Bernard Howell MP
Home Secretary: Theodore Lomax MP
Foreign Minister: Cassandra Haisman MP
Education Minister: Philip Smith MP
Justice Minister: Malcolm Coburn MP
Defence Minister: Senator Robert Falcon
Health Minister: Andrea Clarke MP
Transportation Minister: Natasha Kyle MP
Secretary of Public Utilities & Infrastructure: David Blake MP
Finance Minister: William Baldwin MP
Federal Treasurer: Sen John Sinden
Commerce Minister: Andrea Taylor MP
Minister Without Portfolio: Lauren Furst MP
Minister w/o Port.: Sen Samuel Bryan
Minister w/o Port.: Sen Gerald Bailer

Ambassador to the WA: Rupert Thorpe
Gen Ambassador to World At-Large: Victor Cochrane

User avatar
Charlotte Ryberg
The Muse of the Westcountry
 
Posts: 15007
Founded: Mar 14, 2007
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:38 am

GeneralHaNor wrote:It's in Que
I can't believe this is actually going to vote.
This is not what this body of nations was designed for.

Let it be said, I will oppose this, with as much passion as I oppose, or support issues that actually matter.

And I already have legalized gaming.
So that tells you my level of conviction

We already have legalized gaming to a degree, but we also have gambling awareness programmes, and this draft misses the fact.

It's as simple as saying:

URGES member states to take action to reduce gambling addiction.
Last edited by Charlotte Ryberg on Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:39 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Bears Armed
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21281
Founded: Jun 01, 2006
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:09 am

GHR submitted _
Illegal proposal in queue?

The quorate (& first in the queue) GA proposal 'Gaming Rights and Regulations' is classified as 'Gambling'/ 'Legaliize'.

Whilst I acknowledge that its author's intention may have been for the first operative clause ('Regulation 1') to legalize gambling within all WA member nations, that fact that its actual wording gives the right to "legalized Casino Gambling, Sports Betting and Lottery" to the 'WA Nations' rather than to the peoples of those nations means that in practice all this clause does is confirm national governments' right to legalize (or ban) such activities as they choose...
Therefore, as all of the other operative clauses are restrictive ones, shouldn't the proposal have been classified & submitted as 'Outlaw' rather than as 'Legalize'... and doesn't that make the submitted version illegal?
The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
Author of issues #429, 712, 729, 934, 1120, 1152, 1474, 1521.

User avatar
Embolalia
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1670
Founded: Apr 03, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Embolalia » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:05 am

Bears Armed wrote:GHR submitted _

Whether it was a GHR or a drop in approvals, the proposal is no more. Hooray!
Do unto others as you would have done unto you.
Bible quote? No, that's just common sense.
/ˌɛmboʊˈlɑːliːʌ/
The United Commonwealth of Embolalia

Gafin Gower, Prime minister
E. Rory Hywel, Ambassador to the World Assembly
Gwaredd LLwyd, Lieutenant Ambassador to the World Assembly
Author: GA#95, GA#107, GA#132, GA#185
Philimbesi wrote:Repeal, resign, or relax.

Embassy Exchange
EBC News
My mostly worthless blog
Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51
Liberal atheist bisexual, and proud of it.
@marcmack wrote:I believe we can build a better world! Of course, it'll take a whole lot of rock, water & dirt. Also, not sure where to put it."

User avatar
Bergnovinaia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 7314
Founded: Jul 26, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Bergnovinaia » Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:15 am

Yay! It was removed! :D
I am pursuing my undergraduate degree from Texas A&M University in Psychology and Spanish. My goal in life is to be a marriage and family counselor. If you have questions about me or my life, just ask!

My girlfriend and I blog about Christian & general marriage, relationship, and dating advice!

NS member since 2009. WA Resolution Author (mostly all repealed), NS sports fanatic.

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General Assembly

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users

Advertisement

Remove ads