
by Grasmere » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:49 pm
Ah hah hah, lies my friend. What brought the Germans forward to almost pure domination of europe? Their "pathetic" technologies. We base many of our attacks and strategies upon WWII and WWI ways of fighting.
Well congrats then. Your armies will last about an hour in a modern battlefield.

by The Ainocran Embassy » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:58 pm

by Unibot » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:13 pm
Vocenae wrote:Unibot, you have won NS.

by Grasmere » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:45 pm
Unibot wrote:Nautical Pilotage Act? GA#104? See sig for details.
Ah hah hah, lies my friend. What brought the Germans forward to almost pure domination of europe? Their "pathetic" technologies. We base many of our attacks and strategies upon WWII and WWI ways of fighting.
Well congrats then. Your armies will last about an hour in a modern battlefield.

by Holy Roman Confederate » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:17 pm

by Glen-Rhodes » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:06 pm
Unibot wrote:Nautical Pilotage Act? GA#104? See sig for details.

by Grasmere » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:09 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Unibot wrote:Nautical Pilotage Act? GA#104? See sig for details.
Don't see how that has anything to do with what this proposal would be doing.
Also, to people already muttering out 'national sovereignty', you make no sense. This proposal talks about waterways within the borders of multiple nations. That's by definition international.
Ah hah hah, lies my friend. What brought the Germans forward to almost pure domination of europe? Their "pathetic" technologies. We base many of our attacks and strategies upon WWII and WWI ways of fighting.
Well congrats then. Your armies will last about an hour in a modern battlefield.

by Holy Roman Confederate » Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:44 am

by Glen-Rhodes » Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:46 am
Holy Roman Confederate wrote:If a waterway is shared by multiple nations and is divided by clear borders then each nations laws would apply on their own side of said border. I see no reason for the WA to involve ourselves in that.

by Mikedor » Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:49 am
DEFINES a "Navigable Stream or Waterway" as a landlocked body of water within the borders of two of more nations OR a body of water that has water claims from two or more countries with no international waters seperating them at any point

by Sucrati » Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:55 am
George Washington wrote:"If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
by Charlotte Ryberg » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:03 am

by Glen-Rhodes » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:05 am
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:... but the Law of the Sea should take care of waters under no national territory.

by Northern Itasca » Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:09 am

by Serrland » Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:20 pm
MANDATES nations to enforce laws that allow ships and other non-commercial watercraft to cross into waters controlled by another nation, providing they do not make contact with any other water vessel or dock on the shore of that nation.

by Grasmere » Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:25 pm
Serrland wrote:MANDATES nations to enforce laws that allow ships and other non-commercial watercraft to cross into waters controlled by another nation, providing they do not make contact with any other water vessel or dock on the shore of that nation.
Does the above mean that a submarine from a nation with less-than-amicable relations with Serrland would be allowed to travel up a river from a neighboring state into Serrland without repercussions? There seems to be nothing in here to address either a) subamarine vehicles or b) military vessels, and the Serri delegation sees that as a major flaw in this proposal.
Ah hah hah, lies my friend. What brought the Germans forward to almost pure domination of europe? Their "pathetic" technologies. We base many of our attacks and strategies upon WWII and WWI ways of fighting.
Well congrats then. Your armies will last about an hour in a modern battlefield.

by Enn » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:30 pm
Grasmere wrote:Glen-Rhodes wrote:Unibot wrote:Nautical Pilotage Act? GA#104? See sig for details.
Don't see how that has anything to do with what this proposal would be doing.
Also, to people already muttering out 'national sovereignty', you make no sense. This proposal talks about waterways within the borders of multiple nations. That's by definition international.
Yes, although many of these are owned by only two nations, there are rare cases where waterways can be shared by multiple countries.

by Bears Armed » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:19 am
Grasmere wrote:OOC: I was confused about the category on this one, so if anyone knows which one is the most applicable, please let me know.
The World Assembly,
RECOGNIZING that certain streams and waterways are under the jurisdiction of two or more countries
DEFINES a "Navigable Stream or Waterway" as a landlocked body of water within the borders of two of more nations OR a body of water that has water claims from two or more countries with no international waters seperating them at any point
REALIZING that insufficient legislation governing these waterways leads to smuggling of illegal materials, such as the Immigrant Oil Incident, in which Balcandoran Immigrants stole and exported large amounts of resources illegaly to foreign nations.
NOTING that this legislation does not apply to international waters or ships with proper documentation to travel to a certain country
Hereby:
MANDATES nations to enforce laws that allow personal/recreational watercraft and other non-commercial or non-military watercraft to cross into waters controlled by another nation, providing they do not make contact with any other water vessel or dock on the shore of that nation.
REQUIRES nations to enforce these laws and set aside funding for units, such as a coast guard or similar, to help stop the smuggling of illegal goods
Any comments/criticism or things I should add would be appreciated. This is my first resolution so I welcome any criticism
MANDATES that ships

by Grasmere » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:08 am
Bears Armed wrote:Grasmere wrote:OOC: I was confused about the category on this one, so if anyone knows which one is the most applicable, please let me know.
The World Assembly,
RECOGNIZING that certain streams and waterways are under the jurisdiction of two or more countries
DEFINES a "Navigable Stream or Waterway" as a landlocked body of water within the borders of two of more nations OR a body of water that has water claims from two or more countries with no international waters seperating them at any point
REALIZING that insufficient legislation governing these waterways leads to smuggling of illegal materials, such as the Immigrant Oil Incident, in which Balcandoran Immigrants stole and exported large amounts of resources illegaly to foreign nations.
NOTING that this legislation does not apply to international waters or ships with proper documentation to travel to a certain country
Hereby:
MANDATES nations to enforce laws that allow personal/recreational watercraft and other non-commercial or non-military watercraft to cross into waters controlled by another nation, providing they do not make contact with any other water vessel or dock on the shore of that nation.
REQUIRES nations to enforce these laws and set aside funding for units, such as a coast guard or similar, to help stop the smuggling of illegal goods
Any comments/criticism or things I should add would be appreciated. This is my first resolution so I welcome any criticism
MANDATES that ships
1. Decide on the category first, and then write the proposal to fit it. Allowing passage for (people in) personal/recreational watercraft would be 'Human Rights', but anti-smuggling measures would probably be 'Moral Decency' instead, so you might need to focus more closely on one or the other of these aspects and make the other one clearly subordinate to that.
2. You can't mention details such as "the Immigrant Oil Incident, in which Balcandoran Immigrants stole and exported large amounts of resources illegaly to foreign nations", because that would make the proposal illegal for 'Branding'. (You have read the rules about writing proposals, right?)
3. Please clarify that nations can still impose upper limits on the sizes & speeds of the vessels that are allowed access to any particular waters, and enforce restrictions for environmental & conservation reasons, as long as those rules apply just as much to watercraft owned by their own people as they do to foreigners' vessels. Yes?
Ah hah hah, lies my friend. What brought the Germans forward to almost pure domination of europe? Their "pathetic" technologies. We base many of our attacks and strategies upon WWII and WWI ways of fighting.
Well congrats then. Your armies will last about an hour in a modern battlefield.

by Enn » Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:29 pm
Bears Armed wrote:1. Decide on the category first, and then write the proposal to fit it. Allowing passage for (people in) personal/recreational watercraft would be 'Human Rights', but anti-smuggling measures would probably be 'Moral Decency' instead, so you might need to focus more closely on one or the other of these aspects and make the other one clearly subordinate to that.

by The Ainocran Embassy » Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:00 pm
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