Self-Defense for all!

[Casta Nal]

Newer One
THE SELF-DEFENSE RIGHTS ACT
1. The responsible sentient species of the World Assembly have the right to own weapons for the purposes of self-defense of themselves and others. This resolution still allows security forces to protect the people still. It gives would be victims the right to fight back against criminals, wild animals, invaders, and other threats.
2. The right to bear arms is up to the individual alone.
3. Governments may decide if weapons other than these are legal or not and for who. These weapons are regardless, (higher, middle and lower tech etc.), Melee weapons (bladed weapons, blunt weapons, etc.), bows (crossbow or regular bows), throwing weapons (knives, axes, etc.), martial arts, and magic (classic magic, life-force, technology, “nations may decide whether magic or similar abilities are real”).Also the appropriate ammunition and supplies to upkeep the weapons and for safety. Ammunition, parts, metal, armor, and all related paraphernalia to these weapons are legal and can be bought by individuals from legal vendors.
4. Weapons listed may be used for self-defense/ entertainment “up to nations to decide”/”settling disputes if legal”.
5. Individuals may own as many of these weapons as they want. They must be acquired legally at “white” or “gray” market store. Trades and buying from owner to owner must be overviewed. Individuals must pass intense screening, fair evaluations, fair training, fair tests, and prove they are trustworthy to own weapons/ store. When passed they will now be able to buy weapons and use them legally. They will be issued a license and a fair-sized data listing all weapons and related equipment that they own and must update that regularly . The people may train in approved public ranges and in private areas legally without disturbing the peace. All weapons that used by the public must be found safe and secure. Weapons may be carried out in the open or concealed or both. All tests and licenses are overseed by the WA.
6. If an individual does an illegal activity or is suspected of with his weapon such as intentional killing, crime, illegal owning/selling, not following the law, rebellion, over-usage of self-defense, illegal hunting, duels, and battles will result in your license being revoked, weapons, and equipment seized. Until the owner is proven innocent or pardoned, if convicted the user will be sent to prison/pay fines and if released may never own weapons again unless pardoned. If the owner accidentally kills/hurts someone they must pay compensation to go jail to lose all weapons to fines depending on the severity.
7. Self-Defense is recognized as a right of the people. Self-defense is the right to use equal force to an aggressor. In Self-Defense the goal is to not kill the aggressor but wound, killing may be needed in some situations.

[Jalkil]

Why not do one thing? Wait an hour and build up your arguments. Then post it. Mm´kay?

[Grays Harbor]

This twaddle is still being argued?

[Nullarni]

I think "argued" is too generous. I would say "babbled about".

[Picklepoo]

Newer One
THE SELF-DEFENSE RIGHTS ACT
1. The responsible sentient species of the World Assembly have the right to own weapons for the purposes of self-defense of themselves and others. This resolution still allows security forces to protect the people still. It gives would be victims the right to fight back against criminals, wild animals, invaders, and other threats.
2. The right to bear arms is up to the individual alone.
3. Governments may decide if weapons other than these are legal or not and for who. These weapons are regardless, (higher, middle and lower tech etc.), Melee weapons (bladed weapons, blunt weapons, etc.), bows (crossbow or regular bows), throwing weapons (knives, axes, etc.), martial arts, and magic (classic magic, life-force, technology, “nations may decide whether magic or similar abilities are real”).Also the appropriate ammunition and supplies to upkeep the weapons and for safety. Ammunition, parts, metal, armor, and all related paraphernalia to these weapons are legal and can be bought by individuals from legal vendors.
4. Weapons listed may be used for self-defense/ entertainment “up to nations to decide”/”settling disputes if legal”.
5. Individuals may own as many of these weapons as they want. They must be acquired legally at “white” or “gray” market store. Trades and buying from owner to owner must be overviewed. Individuals must pass intense screening, fair evaluations, fair training, fair tests, and prove they are trustworthy to own weapons/ store. When passed they will now be able to buy weapons and use them legally. They will be issued a license and a fair-sized data listing all weapons and related equipment that they own and must update that regularly . The people may train in approved public ranges and in private areas legally without disturbing the peace. All weapons that used by the public must be found safe and secure. Weapons may be carried out in the open or concealed or both. All tests and licenses are overseed by the WA.
6. If an individual does an illegal activity or is suspected of with his weapon such as intentional killing, crime, illegal owning/selling, not following the law, rebellion, over-usage of self-defense, illegal hunting, duels, and battles will result in your license being revoked, weapons, and equipment seized. Until the owner is proven innocent or pardoned, if convicted the user will be sent to prison/pay fines and if released may never own weapons again unless pardoned. If the owner accidentally kills/hurts someone they must pay compensation to go jail to lose all weapons to fines depending on the severity.
7. Self-Defense is recognized as a right of the people. Self-defense is the right to use equal force to an aggressor. In Self-Defense the goal is to not kill the aggressor but wound, killing may be needed in some situations.

I give up, nothing is stopping you from submitting this, in fact, I think you should submit it, then you will see what we are talking about when it fails to even get close. There is no possible way, it would even get near 50 Delegates. Also, if your calling us all dictators, you obviously know nothing about politics.

[Jalkil]

I think "argued" is too generous. I would say "babbled about".

We are just doing the mopping up. You know... utterly crush the self-confidence and self-reliability of this man... Crush any possible hopes he has of becoming a respected member of this forum... Such stuff.

[Casta Nal]

You now I was going to apolgize for being a complete douche and make a resolution stating to prvent this battle of piontlessness form continuing,GA cannot make gun laws resoltuion, that a laws about gun control were to be decided by goverments, because this was an experiment and I realized I could not do ban guns now so,yeah. But hell no, now I have to finish becaue my honor was insulted not just because I was ridiculed for my idea (that's okay), you guys went on and insulted me personally not my ideas. So now I must coninue this pointless conflict, a forum war. So yeah, a law would have been made to around the World Assembly but now I am going to make war .

[Casta Nal]

JK, Make new resoltution, only nations and sub-national entitiies may decide status with guns prohibt GA form doing it using resoltion..

[Picklepoo]

You now I was going to apolgize for being a complete douche and make a resolution stating to prvent this battle of piontlessness form continuing,GA cannot make gun laws resoltuion, that a laws about gun control were to be decided by goverments, because this was an experiment and I realized I could not do ban guns now so,yeah. But hell no, now I have to finish becaue my honor was insulted not just because I was ridiculed for my idea (that's okay), you guys went on and insulted me personally not my ideas. So now I must coninue this pointless conflict, a forum war. So yeah, a law would have been made to around the World Assembly but now I am going to make war .

Even though your joking (One sad joke)

1. We would crush you in a minute.
2. Your not supposed to make pointless wars, such as "You insulted me! Were going to war!"

[Casta Nal]

That is why I do not care, you proven another point, that the WA is pointless. If try to make guns legal world-wide, I am stopped, I try to ban them, I am stopped, If try to make a resolution declaring the WA should not decide gun control, I am stopped. So the only move is not to play because a propsals will fail epically. Thus nations decide their own gun control laws without any WA which creaes Irony because th WA is supposed to decide serious matters but can't because of burcracy and democracy. So in the end no Gun Control law will ever pass giving de facto gun control to nations. So mock me, but the WA is stupid and will not ever suceed. Like it's RL conterpart.

[Picklepoo]

That is why I do not care, you proven another point, that the WA is pointless. If try to make guns legal world-wide, I am stopped, I try to ban them, I am stopped, If try to make a resolution declaring the WA should not decide gun control, I am stopped. So the only move is not to play because a propsals will fail epically. Thus nations decide their own gun control laws without any WA which creaes Irony because th WA is supposed to decide serious matters but can't because of burcracy and democracy. So in the end no Gun Control law will ever pass giving de facto gun control to nations. So mock me, but the WA is stupid and will not ever suceed. Like it's RL conterpart.

*Sighs* Its like talking to a brick wall.... with a layer of steel around it...

[Quadrimmina]

That is why I do not care, you proven another point, that the WA is pointless. If try to make guns legal world-wide, I am stopped, I try to ban them, I am stopped, If try to make a resolution declaring the WA should not decide gun control, I am stopped. So the only move is not to play because a propsals will fail epically. Thus nations decide their own gun control laws without any WA which creaes Irony because th WA is supposed to decide serious matters but can't because of burcracy and democracy. So in the end no Gun Control law will ever pass giving de facto gun control to nations. So mock me, but the WA is stupid and will not ever suceed. Like it's RL conterpart.

Oh please. The WA should never decide on gun control. It's the individual decision of the nation. More militaristic nations will have less need for guns, while nations that use citizens' militias for defense will have more. No one-size-fits-all resolution can adequately ensure that all the ability of a nation to decide on this is protected. If you want to make a resolution that guarantees choice, why not just leave the status quo, which already does the same thing.

Our delegation notes nothing but impotent rage that your idea was not taken by the WA. Don't take it personally, just try again with a different topic. Maybe even join with another delegation and work together on a resolution. However, we suggest that you let this one go. An assembly that has passed 109 resolutions is hardly sitting on its ass.

[The Chelbrusitan]

That is why I do not care, you proven another point, that the WA is pointless. If try to make guns legal world-wide, I am stopped, I try to ban them, I am stopped, If try to make a resolution declaring the WA should not decide gun control, I am stopped. So the only move is not to play because a propsals will fail epically. Thus nations decide their own gun control laws without any WA which creaes Irony because th WA is supposed to decide serious matters but can't because of burcracy and democracy. So in the end no Gun Control law will ever pass giving de facto gun control to nations. So mock me, but the WA is stupid and will not ever suceed. Like it's RL conterpart.

*Sighs* Its like talking to a brick wall.... with a layer of steel around it...

I don't think this has any relevance, but....Another Brick in the Wall is an amazing song.

[Casta Nal]

So why can't we agree to make a resoltutuion banning gun control propsals at the WA, so in ink nations could decide for themselves.

[Quadrimmina]

So why can't we agree to make a resoltutuion banning gun control propsals at the WA, so in ink nations could decide for themselves.

A) Resolutions created to do nothing but block are illegal.
B) Leaving the issue alone has the same effect.

[Casta Nal]

Another point, gun control should be like everybody drives pink cars, it should be removed because in the end, it only creates debates which give everyone a headache,it tkaes up space on the list,prevents real discussions, no resoltuion will ever pass, and everything stays the same.

[Casta Nal]

No answer means I am right so voice concern or get a ready a condem resoltution in the SC.

[Quadrimmina]

No answer means I am right so voice concern or get a ready a condem resoltution in the SC.

Did you really just threaten to condemn me? That'd actually be kinda badass. Go for it! I'll gladly vote FOR.

Another point, gun control should be like everybody drives pink cars, it should be removed because in the end, it only creates debates which give everyone a headache,it tkaes up space on the list,prevents real discussions, no resoltuion will ever pass, and everything stays the same.

Last I checked, you're the only one creating a debate about the topic.

[Jalkil]

There is a difference between a resolution which makes Self-Defence legal for everyone but to try and do such a micro-managing thing like deciding what weapon should be allowed and that weapon should be allowed to be used and that the distribution of weapons should be made and such stuff is just too much.

The WA is not supposed to be a giant Leftist organisation. Nor is it supposed to be a giant Rightist organisation. Nor is it supposed to be a pro-Dictatorian organisation. Nor a pro-Democratic one. Sure, we vote for the proposals which is democratic but if we didnt do that then the WA would be nothing but a powerless piece of shit.

The WA is supposed to provide with rights which people should always have. No matter what. Water, food, shelter, freedom of thought and speech are parts of this. These are the First Priorities.
Gun controll is not part of that. It is a National Issue. Not a World issue.

[Casta Nal]

I am not a poltictian, I am a judge. The right to defend yourself from douchebags and have secruity/safety is not up there.

[Quadrimmina]

I am not a poltictian, I am a judge. The right to defend yourself from douchebags and have secruity/safety is not up there.

The right to defend yourself is again dependent on the individual system of a nation. Nations can choose to have a strong police force or to have armed citizens. They have the right to make that decision.

[Flibbleites]

I am not a poltictian, I am a judge. The right to defend yourself from douchebags and have secruity/safety is not up there.

The right to defend yourself is again dependent on the individual system of a nation. Nations can choose to have a strong police force or to have armed citizens. They have the right to make that decision.

Or both, that's not exactly an either or proposition.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

[Quadrimmina]

I am not a poltictian, I am a judge. The right to defend yourself from douchebags and have secruity/safety is not up there.

The right to defend yourself is again dependent on the individual system of a nation. Nations can choose to have a strong police force or to have armed citizens. They have the right to make that decision.

Or both, that's not exactly an either or proposition.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

Thank you for pointing that out Ambassador Flibble. It was simply an extension of my previous argument, where I said that nations should have that choice.

[Grays Harbor]

No answer means I am right so voice concern or get a ready a condem resoltution in the SC.

Our already low opinion of you just dropped further. We did not think that possible.

Just to be clear, we believe this ill-advised, poorly written, intrusive, micromanaging, one-size-fits-all twaddle masquerading as a proposal is perhaps one of the dafter bits of lunacy we have had the misfortune of being forced to argue against over an extended period for quite some time. The only "self-defense" required, at least in my country, is protection from proposals such as this.

[Jalkil]

No answer means I am right so voice concern or get a ready a condem resoltution in the SC.

Our already low opinion of you just dropped further. We did not think that possible.

Just to be clear, we believe this ill-advised, poorly written, intrusive, micromanaging, one-size-fits-all twaddle masquerading as a proposal is perhaps one of the dafter bits of lunacy we have had the misfortune of being forced to argue against over an extended period for quite some time. The only "self-defense" required, at least in my country, is protection from proposals such as this.

This, I agree with.
Casta Nal. Either you submit this proposal ASAP and get stopped by the lack of (dis)approvals (or if we are lucky, you will not be stopped by the (dis)approvals and will see when over 3 000 people vote no to this shit) OR you can just abandon it and stop wasting the time of the WA.