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PASSED: Access to Science in Schools

Postby Sionis Prioratus » Wed May 13, 2009 8:24 pm

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Category: Education and Creativity / Area of Effect: Educational

THE PEOPLES OF THE WORLD ASSEMBLED,

MINDFUL that a solid and diverse education provides the best opportunities for personal growth, and greater and more promising chances in the pursuit of happiness, with self-evident benefits for the whole of society and all the worlds,

ACKNOWLEDGING that in science there are no absolute truths; scientific theories, for example Gravity and Evolution, are subject to be proven wrong. Scientific theories are propositions to scientific questions, not absolute facts; this shall be stated whenever scientific theories are taught,

MINDFUL that teaching science has been a source of contentious debate, due to the perceived notion of a number of people of good faith that it somehow could undermine the tenets of their religions or philosophies, notwithstanding the fact that many religions do not feel threatened by science, and in fact embrace it,

ALSO MINDFUL that exposure to different worldviews encourages debate, preparing the forthcoming generations for ever-changing, progressing worlds, and development of tolerance towards different cultures,

ACKNOWLEDGING that international prohibition of Religious views in a school setting is contrarian to the principles stated above, therefore no nation shall ever be deprived of the freedom of exposing their young to Religious worldviews, should said nation see it fit,

ENCOURAGING schools to adopt religious diversity awareness courses, as long as it helps promote greater tolerance and understanding between different peoples,

RESOLVES:

1. Inclusion of peer-reviewed science in schools’ curricula shall from now on be mandatory in public schools and schools that receive governmental aid.

2. Funding for such inclusion shall come from the national education budget and/or – upon request and/or acceptance – from nations willing to provide funding, related reading, human resources, or other resources deemed necessary according to the parties involved.

3. Private schools shall have full freedom to choose to teach or not to teach whatever peer-reviewed scientific theories they want, regardless of the W.A. nation they happen to be situated.

4. Whenever Religious views acknowledged as opposing peer-reviewed scientific theories are part of a school curriculum, the time allocated for teaching said peer-reviewed scientific theories in said schools shall be at least the same time that is allocated for said Religious views.

5. For greater clarity, religious views shall not in any way, shape, or form be banned from schools’ curricula by means of international law; however, individual nations shall retain full freedom to do so by means of national law.

6. For even greater clarity, exposure to scientific theories views shall never, ever be a vehicle – be it by objective of subjective means, or any other means – to force acceptance of scientific theories. Freedom of conscience is paramount, and a person can be exposed to scientific theories and reject them altogether for itself, without any negative consequences whatsoever in what regards a person’s public life.
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Re: Evolution in Schools Act

Postby Unibot » Wed May 13, 2009 8:46 pm

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He screamed, "Da Doofoago ... :click: Da Doofoago..., Myasi :click: Mana Tuliultoo"

Staring at some of the dumbfounded diplomats, he snatched some of the yogurt out of one plucky diplomat's hands... smearing the strawberry yogurt on his face in war stripes.

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Re: Evolution in Schools Act

Postby Philimbesi » Thu May 14, 2009 4:39 am

Nigel frowned at the loss of his yogurt....
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Re: Evolution in Schools Act

Postby Flibbleites » Thu May 14, 2009 7:24 am

Keep your grubby hands off my nation's school curriculum.

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Re: Evolution in Schools Act

Postby Philimbesi » Thu May 14, 2009 7:43 am

We must agree with representative Fibble, and re-affirm our stance that the WA is not the body to dictate what can, can't, should or shouldn't be taught in a nations schools.
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Re: Evolution in Schools Act

Postby Sigma Dome » Thu May 14, 2009 7:45 am

The Talycan Consortium is going to lean in on the debate again on the side of national sovereignty - each nation has the right to determine their own school cirriculum, and using international mandate to dictate one piece of it over several thousands of nations is absurd.

Also, for those future-tech nations around us, we may well have either proven evolution completely or found new evidence that completely dismisses it. Who knows, mayhaps some nation will find an ancient relic of millennia long past, showing that we are just the gene-engineered product of some precursor society withering from the war they created. We don't know yet, and unless we get time-travel we will never know - better then to let each nation evaluate the products of the scientific community without outside interference and make their own choice than to have it force-fed by the international community.
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Re: Evolution in Schools Act

Postby Bears Armed » Thu May 14, 2009 7:57 am

Umm, whatever might be the case for other sapient species, we Ursines know that we didn't 'evolve'. What happened was that some beings who'd gone into hibernation as "ordinary", pre-sapient Bears woke up to find that they'd acquired intelligence, speech, opposable thumbs on their forepaws, and bipedal posture. Now, whether this was a miracle worked by the Great Bear (as many believe) or an after-effect of spells worked centuries earlier by the Human wizards who formerly ruled the lands that are now 'Bears Armed' (as some sceptics suggest instead) we can''t prove, but that it happened isn't just a matter of religious belief it's a matter of history... and in fact there further groups have "awakened" like that later on, too, some of them even within living memory...
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Re: Evolution in Schools Act

Postby Absolvability » Thu May 14, 2009 8:14 am

Bears Armed wrote:Umm, whatever might be the case for other sapient species, we Ursines know that we didn't 'evolve'. What happened was that some beings who'd gone into hibernation as "ordinary", pre-sapient Bears woke up to find that they'd acquired intelligence, speech, opposable thumbs on their forepaws, and bipedal posture. Now, whether this was a miracle worked by the Great Bear (as many believe) or an after-effect of spells worked centuries earlier by the Human wizards who formerly ruled the lands that are now 'Bears Armed' (as some sceptics suggest instead) we can''t prove, but that it happened isn't just a matter of religious belief it's a matter of history... and in fact there further groups have "awakened" like that later on, too, some of them even within living memory...


"Acquired," seems semi-synonymous (in this context,) with "evolved." Though, I'll grant you that such matters don't normally happen so abruptly. Even still, it seems to me that you admit really not knowing what the heck happened. So how in the world do you manage to exclude evolution?

I support this proposal. I can not fathom why anybody would not, though I'm sure the ineffible 'faith' has something to do with it. This proposal is adament about not restricting religious teachings. However, the opposition will not allow evolution to be taught? It seems to me that their stance is so weak it can not stand debate. Or, rather, they don't want to let students decide for themselves given equal support for two sides. Or, rather, that with enough 'faith' we need not seek out knowledge. Some mighty being will drop it into our laps.

And this will be passed to the next generation. Ignorance will be perpetuated yet again.
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Re: Evolution in Schools Act

Postby Sionis Prioratus » Thu May 14, 2009 8:17 am

I thank the Zealots and the NatSov's for their input.
What I'd really like to know is if this in any way, shape or form is illegal.

To be more exact, something on the lines of an ideological ban, the sad fate of the "Secular Education" act.

I've done everything so that Zealot Nations retain full freedom to continue to teach whatever they want to the children, however absurd it might be. The draft just gives the children a chance to ponder the other side of things. This will not induce mass apostasy. Some children will stay entrenched as always in the state-sponsored dogmas, whenever they exist.

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Re: Evolution in Schools Act

Postby Bears Armed » Thu May 14, 2009 8:25 am

Absolvability wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Umm, whatever might be the case for other sapient species, we Ursines know that we didn't 'evolve'. What happened was that some beings who'd gone into hibernation as "ordinary", pre-sapient Bears woke up to find that they'd acquired intelligence, speech, opposable thumbs on their forepaws, and bipedal posture. Now, whether this was a miracle worked by the Great Bear (as many believe) or an after-effect of spells worked centuries earlier by the Human wizards who formerly ruled the lands that are now 'Bears Armed' (as some sceptics suggest instead) we can''t prove, but that it happened isn't just a matter of religious belief it's a matter of history... and in fact there further groups have "awakened" like that later on, too, some of them even within living memory...


"Acquired," seems semi-synonymous (in this context,) with "evolved." Though, I'll grant you that such matters don't normally happen so abruptly. Even still, it seems to me that you admit really not knowing what the heck happened. So how in the world do you manage to exclude evolution?

And how would evolution have favoured the sudden development of all those new features? 'Mutation' could have done it, I agree -- although getting so many favourable changes at once without 'lethal' ones as well seems extremely unlikely -- but given that it all happened within a single generation (for each group involved) there was no scope for 'natural selection', was there?
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Re: Evolution in Schools Act

Postby Absolvability » Thu May 14, 2009 8:36 am

Bears Armed wrote:And how would evolution have favoured the sudden development of all those new features? 'Mutation' could have done it, I agree -- although getting so many favourable changes at once without 'lethal' ones as well seems extremely unlikely -- but given that it all happened within a single generation (for each group involved) there was no scope for 'natural selection', was there?


You're absolutely correct. Mutation is probably the answer. That doesn't mean evolution doesn't exist. Are you saying that if I cut my thumb off evolution doesn't exist because it has nothing to do with natural selection? I hate to tell you, Ambassador, but my country has plenty of non-sapient bears. So whatever weird thing happened in your nation really has nothing to do with evolution EITHER way.

Sionis wrote:I thank the Zealots and the NatSov's for their input.
What I'd really like to know is if this in any way, shape or form is illegal.


This is not illegal. You've taken very appropriate measures. I applaud your open-mindedness in the matter. Isn't it rather amusing that the opposition isn't equally open? I guess when you 'walk with god' you don't have to watch out for dog poop.
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Re: Evolution in Schools Act

Postby Philimbesi » Thu May 14, 2009 8:44 am

Absolvability wrote: I guess when you 'walk with god' you don't have to watch out for dog poop.


I walk with no one, except myself ambassador, so if you can see fit not to lump those who believe that a nation has the right to teach that which they see fit without zealots of any particular myth that would be wonderful.
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Re: Evolution in Schools Act

Postby Absolvability » Thu May 14, 2009 8:53 am

Philimbesi wrote:I walk with no one, except myself ambassador, so if you can see fit not to lump those who believe that a nation has the right to teach that which they see fit without zealots of any particular myth that would be wonderful.


I don't recall what exact resolution it was, but there is such a thing as Freedom of Expression. There is also a limitation to this. Basically, the limitation would be slander. Slander most commonly means defamation of a person on grounds that can be proven untrue. I suggest the same applies to ideas. And that, in this particular instance (where the 'theory' of evolution is up for debate,) the only course of action is to teach evolution to an equal degree as anything else. The theory may not have been proven to the full satisfaction of some, but it CERTAINLY has more support than anything else I've laid eyes upon. ASSUMING we can ATLEAST agree that religious handbooks are NOT reference books!

Nations should not be seen as having rights beyond what is required to provide for its citizens, Ambassador. They have obligations. They have responsibilities. And our UTMOST responsibility must be to the truth!!

I correctly 'lump' anybody who disagrees into the same group because reasons are not important.
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Postby Unibot » Thu May 14, 2009 9:11 am

I thank the Zealots and the NatSov's for their input.
What I'd really like to know is if this in any way, shape or form is illegal.

To be more exact, something on the lines of an ideological ban, the sad fate of the "Secular Education" act.

I've done everything so that Zealot Nations retain full freedom to continue to teach whatever they want to the children, however absurd it might be. The draft just gives the children a chance to ponder the other side of things. This will not induce mass apostasy. Some children will stay entrenched as always in the state-sponsored dogmas, whenever they exist.

Yours,


A Unibotian Photocopy Boy for Zhilidigo, walked over to the crowd forming. As he was not apart of his country's mass devolution (escaping the witch's spell geographically) - the acne scarred, croaky voiced sixteen year now had more of a summer job then it had been when he took the interview. Translating for his neanderthal boss, and being one of the last living representatives of an educated, civilized Unibot was not on the job description.

The Photocopy boy stepped into the circular crowd forming around his boss's antics,

"Um... I believe what my boss is suggesting is that we should "like" focus on more ideologies that just "like" evolution. Because theres a good, "like" couple thousand religions and scientific explanations of how humanity came about in the World Assembly, and it'd be "like" a little counterintutive to focus on promoting one philosophy, when we "like" could pass a bill encouraging classes on a broader scope of religion and beliefs. But not "like" talk about specifics, "like" "YOU MUST LEARN ABOUT EVOLUTION" or "YOU MUST LEARN ABOUT DA DOOFOAGO", we'd just encourge more diversity in religious education without specifics, eh?"

The teenager looked around after his monologue to see if someone had heard him, or if his boss's dancing was stealing the spotlight. He was willing to say it again, except louder.

He had time now, considering his boss no longer knew what a xerox machine was anyway.
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Postby Absolvability » Thu May 14, 2009 9:19 am

Unibot wrote:"Um... I believe what my boss is suggesting is that we should "like" focus on more ideologies that just "like" evolution. Because theres a good, "like" couple thousand religions and scientific explanations of how humanity came about in the World Assembly, and it'd be "like" a little counterintutive to focus on promoting one philosophy, when we "like" could pass a bill encouring classes on a broader scope of religion and beliefs. But not "like" talk about specifics, "like" "YOU MUST LEARN ABOUT EVOLUTION" or "YOU MUST LEARN ABOUT DA DOOFOAGO", we'd just encourge more diversity in religious education without specifics, eh?"


Is that what you took from it? Hmm... I must not've been listening closely enough. At any rate... lad... I agree with you. It's unfortunately true that if we can't get something so broadly supported as evolution to become standard knowledge internationally then we really have no hope of implementing anything so objective or wise on the scale you imply.

And again, the author was VERY clear about not restricting anything else was being taught as well.
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Postby North Wiedna » Thu May 14, 2009 9:22 am

This is a proposal that would limit the power of the churches in some countries that may be 100% of one religion. What if they don't believe in evolution?
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Postby Philimbesi » Thu May 14, 2009 9:23 am

Absolvability wrote: I don't recall what exact resolution it was, but there is such a thing as Freedom of Expression. There is also a limitation to this. Basically, the limitation would be slander. Slander most commonly means defamation of a person on grounds that can be proven untrue. I suggest the same applies to ideas. And that, in this particular instance (where the 'theory' of evolution is up for debate,) the only course of action is to teach evolution to an equal degree as anything else. The theory may not have been proven to the full satisfaction of some, but it CERTAINLY has more support than anything else I've laid eyes upon. ASSUMING we can ATLEAST agree that religious handbooks are NOT reference books!

Nations should not be seen as having rights beyond what is required to provide for its citizens, Ambassador. They have obligations. They have responsibilities. And our UTMOST responsibility must be to the truth!!

I correctly 'lump' anybody who disagrees into the same group because reasons are not important.


Well the ambassador from Absolvabilty certainly did eat his rhetoric Wheaties today didn't he.

So national sovereignty advocates are religious zealots in your eyes? Interesting. I must say that your ability to generalize those who disagree with you into neat little categories does fly in the face of your self prescribed open mindedness..

And again, the author was VERY clear about not restricting anything else was being taught as well.


So the nations that only subscribe to and teach the theory of evolution are correct? Or should they be forced in the name of education and TRUTH, to give equal time to creationism, or mutation, or any of the other theories of how this all started?
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Postby Philimbesi » Thu May 14, 2009 9:28 am

Sionis Prioratus wrote:I thank the Zealots and the NatSov's for their input.
What I'd really like to know is if this in any way, shape or form is illegal.

To be more exact, something on the lines of an ideological ban, the sad fate of the "Secular Education" act.

I've done everything so that Zealot Nations retain full freedom to continue to teach whatever they want to the children, however absurd it might be. The draft just gives the children a chance to ponder the other side of things. This will not induce mass apostasy. Some children will stay entrenched as always in the state-sponsored dogmas, whenever they exist.

Yours,


Yes, it appears legal, though I'm certainly not an expert.
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Absolvability wrote:Nations should not be seen as having rights beyond what is required to provide for its citizens, Ambassador. They have obligations. They have responsibilities. And our UTMOST responsibility must be to the truth!!

I correctly 'lump' anybody who disagrees into the same group because reasons are not important.


This is, without a doubt, one of the most self-righteous, naive and utterly dangerous things I have ever heard from a representative to this Assembly.

By stripping a nation or government of its fundamental rights, you're stripping those rights from the people that nation is composed of. What is a government, other than the manifestation of the political will of its people? Your arrogant dismissal of any viewpoint that disagrees with your own "because their reasons are not important" is just another demonstration of your blatant desire to use the WA as a blunt object to beat the rest of the multiverse into the shape you want it to be in, rather than a desire to work together as a community to find common ground. Your government's attitude is abhorrent to any people who value their freedom or their independence. And to tolerate such attitudes, frankly, I can only imagine that your citizens must be sheep, as I have no doubt that you are just as content to disregard your citizens' desires if they do not conform to your perception of their "obligations" and "responsibilities".

For the record, the Altani government believes that this proposal is legal, but will oppose it as the blatant infringement upon national sovereignty and veiled attack on theocratic states that it is. We are not a theocracy, but have a theocracy as one of our constituent states, and this kind of interference is neither desirable nor warranted.

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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Thu May 14, 2009 10:09 am

Not at all an veiled attack.

For the record, I do think uncontextualized religious education for the young, who did not have yet enough life experiences to distinguish right and wrong, is wrong and akin to child abuse. Presto, it is said.

I would support the "Secular Education" Act, if it was legal according to the game rules. But it isn't and I won't.

And no one get me started on the topic that religion is an absolute prerequisite for infusing morality into the next generation. Religion has no copyright over morality. It may infuse it, but unfortunately, not often so. And often the contrary is achieved.

This draft does not ban anything. It gives the young the chance to think. A process which, in its end, may result in a young person choosing religious dogma over evolution. But no one will be able to blame him/her. Because a chance to think about the choices has been offered. And it need not be a choice. Many religions accept evolution as fact.

p.s.:
What is a government, other than the manifestation of the political will of its people?


That is the definition of a democracy. There are also theocracies, as the one in your territories, dictatorships, and absolute monarchies (as myself).
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Postby Philimbesi » Thu May 14, 2009 10:29 am

We respectfully disagree with ambassador from Sionis Prioratus.

Our disagreement lies in the fact that they have chosen a specific school of thought to be espoused. I would venture there are nations in this assembly who can certainly care less how humans think they got here. You say it's not a veiled attack I beg to differ, you are singling out one school of thought that is direct conflict with another.

If this resolution wasn't an attack it would require the nation to teach any and all creation theory, one example of which would be equal time for creationism in an evolution, for lack of a better term, ideology.


EDIT: Meaning if the school is now only teaching evolution, would it not be in the best interest of debate and learning to teach the other theories?
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Re: Evolution in Schools Act

Postby Sionis Prioratus » Thu May 14, 2009 10:36 am

Sionis Prioratus wrote:Not at all an veiled attack.


What I meant with the assertion, is that the draft is indeed an attack, but not a veiled one, but a straightforward, direct one. My apologies if instead of clarifying, I made my intentions even more obscure. I hope this clarifies my sentiments.

And I'm very thankful respectful disagreement can still be found within these halls. I applaud you, notwithstanding your opposition.

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Postby Philimbesi » Thu May 14, 2009 10:40 am

Sionis Prioratus wrote:
Sionis Prioratus wrote:Not at all an veiled attack.


What I meant with the assertion, is that the draft is indeed an attack, but not a veiled one, but a straightforward, direct one. My apologies if instead of clarifying, I made my intentions even more obscure. I hope this clarifies my sentiments.

And I'm very thankful respectful disagreement can still be found within these halls. I applaud you, notwithstanding your opposition.

Yours,


Yes, after posting I started suspecting that's what you meant, and as such I'm sure it's no surprise we are opposed. Now if that make us a religious zealot then give me the hat and call me the pope. :)
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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Thu May 14, 2009 10:53 am

Philimbesi wrote:Meaning if the school is now only teaching evolution, would it not be in the best interest of debate and learning to teach the other theories?


It may, but I won't be the one spearheading the teaching of mythology as fact in schools. I'll leave it up to another ambassador to do that, if one wishes.

I foresee section 2) could represent a putative future problem for those so wishing, should this pass. Ambassadors, opposing or not, I welcome input as for if it should be stricken for the text. After careful re-reading, its absence wouldn't compel secular schools to offer religious education.

Yours,
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Re: Evolution in Schools Act

Postby Philimbesi » Thu May 14, 2009 11:00 am

Sionis Prioratus wrote:
Philimbesi wrote:Meaning if the school is now only teaching evolution, would it not be in the best interest of debate and learning to teach the other theories?


It may, but I won't be the one spearheading the teaching of mythology as fact in schools. I'll leave it up to another ambassador to do that, if one wishes.

I foresee section 2) could represent a putative future problem for those so wishing, should this pass. Ambassadors, opposing or not, I welcome input as for if it should be stricken for the text. After careful re-reading, its absence wouldn't compel secular schools to offer religious education.

Yours,


So ancient lands aren't part of the curricula? Ancient faiths? What is wrong with saying to you students, the theory of evolution states this, however there are religions who subscribe to the following?
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