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Totm
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Abolishing Money

Postby Totm » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:00 am

{proposal=Bill 1][/Key Statues]

[background=][/background]

To even consider the development of my nation without money is a economic no-no.
This bill will give an overview of why moeny is wrong in today society,
way around fiscal development and monetary gains.

war machine

I pout the question forwards that after the first and second world wars with many country leaving behind a military future of these country what are now today the greatest businesspeoples that because of the debt did these country have to make money but the human and technological adhancements were only sought after leaving behind their NATIONSTATE war machine.

FAQ

What next.

firstly i put forward that money is surplus to our nation and the world requirements. is the world assembly next?
NO the world assembly is part of the cogs that make for social evolution leaving money and war behind can only be noted by the world assembly clerks and administation to be put into aciton by the world assembly.

Why oh WHY on earth does money have to go?
you just got paid!

WHy doe?
intrinsically throughout the nation we have seen mass changes, form what came before a few writing on the wall and draw forth the crystal ball we have seen credit unto the credit card and diplomancy out now in a store near you,

Bill 1

SO i put in motion the right to pass the first bill to abolish money, this will be admisnitered the trade and through accountancy documentations.

Key Statues

1. all medical/fire/energy and contruction personell will be given a a big golden key to the new forming of the capital of TOTM note that nothing is there in south central TOTM
2. at groundlevel following the deabte on compulsary diplomacy we will hand out silver keys for trading
note that the key will be smaller
£. everybody must have trade and assets in two tangible and intangible
4. the government owns all two sectors of trade and is ready for trade to occur
5. traders bid through points
6. traders must make at leat one trade a day
3. advertising will never again have to again offer me cheap deals and low low crazy go go price

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Postby The Emmerian Unions » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:03 am

Uh what the hell is this shit?
The Cake is a lie!
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Postby Totm » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:14 am

The Emmerian Unions wrote:Uh what the hell is this shit?

have a look at all the other moeny related posts

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Postby The Emmerian Unions » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:46 am

Still, what the fuck is it? I can't decipher this shit. And from what I can barely make out, this is illegal for game mechanics violation.
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Postby The Voltania » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:10 am

Does not compute.

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Postby Zeppy » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:13 am

wat is this i dont even?

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Postby Techno-Soviet » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:13 am

brain...melting...and i'm not even in the wa
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Postby Astralsideria » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:17 am

If I might suggest a few things? I may? Oh, good. Thank you. Ahem.

Working on the assumption that this is a proposal for the World Assembly, I see several problems. One is that, as far as I can see, it doesn't even approximate the standard structure thereof. Another is that you haven't got one endorsement, never mind the two needed to propose a Bill. The third is that, although I'm not sure, I would've thought that the abolition of money would violate some rule or other somewhere, no matter how many Key Statues, or, indeed, Statutes, back it up.

If it isn't for the World Assembly, then obviously it doesn't belong in this forum.

Irrespective of its purpose, I would like to put the case forward for the future use of a spell- and grammar-checker. It'd help an awful lot.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:30 am

I'm not sure about this, honoured ambassador from Totm, but I know currencies cannot be abolished by the WA.

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Postby Astralsideria » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:34 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:I'm not sure about this, honoured ambassador from Totm, but I know currencies cannot be abolished by the WA.


Surely, my dear Ambassador, if currencies may not be abolished, then the base purpose for their initial existence, ie the principle of money itself, is, itself, sacrosanct? Does this not, therefore, mean that the very idea is thoroughly unlawful?
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:43 am

Astralsideria wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:I'm not sure about this, honoured ambassador from Totm, but I know currencies cannot be abolished by the WA.


Surely, my dear Ambassador, if currencies may not be abolished, then the base purpose for their initial existence, ie the principle of money itself, is, itself, sacrosanct? Does this not, therefore, mean that the very idea is thoroughly unlawful?

OOC: It's actually a technical limitation in which it is impossible to abolish currencies through a simple resolution.

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Postby Astralsideria » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:45 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:
Astralsideria wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:I'm not sure about this, honoured ambassador from Totm, but I know currencies cannot be abolished by the WA.


Surely, my dear Ambassador, if currencies may not be abolished, then the base purpose for their initial existence, ie the principle of money itself, is, itself, sacrosanct? Does this not, therefore, mean that the very idea is thoroughly unlawful?

OOC: It's actually a technical limitation in which it is impossible to abolish currencies through a simple resolution.


Is his idea practicable, though, in any event? I don't see how it can be: if there's no money, save for his bloody key-things, then the only currency there can be is his key, isn't it? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:47 am

Astralsideria wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:
Astralsideria wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:I'm not sure about this, honoured ambassador from Totm, but I know currencies cannot be abolished by the WA.


Surely, my dear Ambassador, if currencies may not be abolished, then the base purpose for their initial existence, ie the principle of money itself, is, itself, sacrosanct? Does this not, therefore, mean that the very idea is thoroughly unlawful?

OOC: It's actually a technical limitation in which it is impossible to abolish currencies through a simple resolution.


Is his idea practicable, though, in any event? I don't see how it can be: if there's no money, save for his bloody key-things, then the only currency there can be is his key, isn't it? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

A common currency is legal but extremely hard to accomplish and it has to allow member states to keep their own currency. Also, there cannot be any branding, even in the acronym.

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Postby Astralsideria » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:49 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:
Astralsideria wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:
Astralsideria wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:I'm not sure about this, honoured ambassador from Totm, but I know currencies cannot be abolished by the WA.


Surely, my dear Ambassador, if currencies may not be abolished, then the base purpose for their initial existence, ie the principle of money itself, is, itself, sacrosanct? Does this not, therefore, mean that the very idea is thoroughly unlawful?

OOC: It's actually a technical limitation in which it is impossible to abolish currencies through a simple resolution.


Is his idea practicable, though, in any event? I don't see how it can be: if there's no money, save for his bloody key-things, then the only currency there can be is his key, isn't it? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

A common currency is legal but extremely hard to accomplish and it has to allow member states to keep their own currency. Also, there cannot be any branding, even in the acronym.

Thanks for that. Anyway, it would probably help if it was intelligible.
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Postby Sremski okrug » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:49 am

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Postby Sebally-Orwitskia » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:52 am

OOC:http://www.theonion.com/articles/us-economy-grinds-to-halt-as-nation-realizes-money,2912/ My fears on abolishing money.

IC:
This is ridiculous and laughable, such a thing cannot be deemed possible in a time, where there are technologies and services are only possible through the symbolic representation of currency.

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Postby CorruptDictators » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:57 am

:rofl:

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Postby Embolalia » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:03 am

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Postby Sanctaria » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:39 am

.... :palm:

Sometimes I wonder about the intelligence of my fellow Ambassadors.
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Postby Astralsideria » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:52 am

Sanctaria wrote:.... :palm:

Sometimes I wonder about the intelligence of my fellow Ambassadors.


I would point out to the Most Excellent Ambassador that, technically, as Totm isn't a WA state, the west of the Missions may be exempt from his effects.
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Postby Sanctaria » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:56 am

Astralsideria wrote:
Sanctaria wrote:.... :palm:

Sometimes I wonder about the intelligence of my fellow Ambassadors.


I would point out to the Most Excellent Ambassador that, technically, as Totm isn't a WA state, the west of the Missions may be exempt from his effects.


Ah, my mistake. Well my point still stands. I worry about the intelligence of those who submit nonsensical proposals.
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Postby Astralsideria » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:59 am

Sanctaria wrote:
Astralsideria wrote:
Sanctaria wrote:.... :palm:

Sometimes I wonder about the intelligence of my fellow Ambassadors.


I would point out to the Most Excellent Ambassador that, technically, as Totm isn't a WA state, the west of the Missions may be exempt from his effects.


Ah, my mistake. Well my point still stands. I worry about the intelligence of those who submit nonsensical proposals.


We agree, wholeheartedly. We merely wish to avoid the sensible people in this forum being tarred with the same brush as Totm.
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Economics Policy ABOLISHING CAPITALISM

Postby Totm » Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:18 pm

Abolishing Capitalism

A/B


I think we are known for having been around for what may seem like enternity but to put it rightly as fred once famously said.........and at some point i will remember
Firstly you must recognise i am not a man
Second SUCK my pOP is playing on the old television while i am on my watching through my telescope something moving around on the floor as i realise that i bad for me
Thirdly i will sue everybody in capitalism if you do not abolish capitalism there will be a grave misjustice
at the way i have been acting and move hestatanty again in proving capitilism to be wrong

Totm has been moving towards an all out war but they should hear the fights me and my sister get in too raunchy
SO as is so nothing new under the sun shall we all pick up the mirror on the floor
expecting to read my paper on ending capitlism and destroying a few states,call me?

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REPLY TO THE ABOLISHING OF MONEY

Postby Totm » Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:24 pm

[proposal=[/proposal] IF only for a short while, stop trading, and if you do not i feel i was offended and as a black i wish the of the world commitee which TOtm is now a dear friend that gun and black and liquor crimes are not to be tolerated for too long for sure.

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Postby Sanctaria » Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:25 pm

Totm wrote:Abolishing Capitalism

A/B


I think we are known for having been around for what may seem like enternity but to put it rightly as fred once famously said.........and at some point i will remember
Firstly you must recognise i am not a man
Second SUCK my pOP is playing on the old television while i am on my watching through my telescope something moving around on the floor as i realise that i bad for me
Thirdly i will sue everybody in capitalism if you do not abolish capitalism there will be a grave misjustice
at the way i have been acting and move hestatanty again in proving capitilism to be wrong

Totm has been moving towards an all out war but they should hear the fights me and my sister get in too raunchy
SO as is so nothing new under the sun shall we all pick up the mirror on the floor
expecting to read my paper on ending capitlism and destroying a few states,call me?


... say what?
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