[DRAFT] Mandatory Grade Education

[Opiachus]

Category: Education and Creativity
Area of Affect: Educational
Name: Mandatory Grade Education
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UNDERSTANDING that third-world nations do not have sufficient educational systems;

FURTHER UNDERSTANDING that in some cases children in these nations do not have the privilege to finish primary and secondary education;

NOTING that proper education is the key to success in later life;

ADDING that education will help reduce crime rates by directing children to decent jobs;

Therefore, the World Assembly:

DEFINES, for the purpose of this resolution, primary education as grades one through five, including kindergarten;

FURTHER DEFINES, for this resolution, secondary education being grades six to twelve;

REQUIRES that all member states provide free access to primary and secondary education;

FURTHER REQUIRES all member states to ensure that children actively pursue primary and secondary education to reduce drop-out rates;

URGES member states to provide grants for college and university courses;

MANDATES that proper and reasonable funding be applied to educational services including, but not limited to schools, colleges, universities, libraries, and museums in member states;

CALLS FOR a school to be put in less than a 10 kilometre radius from any given residence with appropriate bussing;

REQUESTS member states to direct support for mentally challenged chldren;

RECOMMENDS member states to promote further education for individuals in the pursuit of knowledge.

[Quadrimmina]

The Republic of Quadrimmina feels that the current system offered by the WA is sufficient, but thanks the noble delegation for their contributions.

Please see WA#80, "A Promotion of Basic Education". It's the prior resolution that makes this one illegal, since prior resolutions can't be copied. A link to it is here.

I look forward to your further resolutions.

[Opiachus]

Thank you for pointing that out. Hopefully another proposal that I have planned will be unique.

[Quadrimmina]

Thank you for pointing that out. Hopefully another resolution that I have planned will be unique.

You can check the list there, and other pinned forums have the rules for resolutions. Hopefully with those two under your belt you can avoid making the same mistakes our delegation made upon arriving at this august assembly.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Thank you for pointing that out. Hopefully another proposal that I have planned will be unique.

Don't give up! Repeal the failure of a resolution and write a better one. This proposal already has something more than the other one did: it doesn't discriminate against immigrants.

[Unibot]

Thank you for pointing that out. Hopefully another proposal that I have planned will be unique.

Don't give up! Repeal the failure of a resolution and write a better one. This proposal already has something more than the other one did: it doesn't discriminate against immigrants.

Actually GR, if you defined a "Citizen" as any inhabitant in your nation, you'd have to provide an education to immigrants too.

[Quadrimmina]

Thank you for pointing that out. Hopefully another proposal that I have planned will be unique.

Don't give up! Repeal the failure of a resolution and write a better one. This proposal already has something more than the other one did: it doesn't discriminate against immigrants.

Actually GR, if you defined a "Citizen" as any inhabitant in your nation, you'd have to provide an education to immigrants too.

Citizen is pretty implicitly defined as a person who has a passport or other document identifying them as a "citizen".

Anyway, I agree. This resolution was fantastic. It's just illegal pending repeal of the precedent.

[Bromin]

We will need a more detailed/clearly written explanation, before our nation can except this draft.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Actually GR, if you defined a "Citizen" as any inhabitant in your nation, you'd have to provide an education to immigrants too.

The resolution shouldn't have used the term at all. Crackpot ideas that nations would send troves of immigrants to a nation to receive an education, as an economic attack no less, were frankly the most idiotic thing I've ever read in a debate.

Citizen is pretty implicitly defined as a person who has a passport or other document identifying them as a "citizen".

Citizenship confers privileges, duties, and responsibilities. Being able to obtain a passport is a privilege of citizenship. According to the resolution in question, education is merely a privilege of citizenship, rather than a right of all people.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

The duplication aisde, we note that not all member states may have graded education. Again, we think Glen-Rhodes' proposal is much better yet we value the input from Opiachus.

[Quelesh]

*ahem*

No to compulsory schooling in the World Assembly. No.

Besides, Quelesh has gotten along just fine for decades now without any kind of age-stratified education system, and you would seek to suddenly force that upon us too?

No.

Alexandria Yadoru
Interim Ambassador to the World Assembly
Empire of Quelesh

[Quadrimmina]

Actually GR, if you defined a "Citizen" as any inhabitant in your nation, you'd have to provide an education to immigrants too.

The resolution shouldn't have used the term at all. Crackpot ideas that nations would send troves of immigrants to a nation to receive an education, as an economic attack no less, were frankly the most idiotic thing I've ever read in a debate.

Citizen is pretty implicitly defined as a person who has a passport or other document identifying them as a "citizen".

Citizenship confers privileges, duties, and responsibilities. Being able to obtain a passport is a privilege of citizenship. According to the resolution in question, education is merely a privilege of citizenship, rather than a right of all people.

Sir, I know. My esteemed colleague from Unibot pointed out the elasticity of the definition of "citizen", something I felt needed to be addressed. At the same time, passports are what identify one, almost universally, as a citizen.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Sir, I know. My esteemed colleague from Unibot pointed out the elasticity of the definition of "citizen", something I felt needed to be addressed. At the same time, passports are what identify one, almost universally, as a citizen.

I didn't mean to sound like I was arguing with you; just using your comment as a platform. Maybe using the privilege argument would be a bit more effective in a repeal. Though, I still have other ideas for addressing the problem.

[Quadrimmina]

Sir, I know. My esteemed colleague from Unibot pointed out the elasticity of the definition of "citizen", something I felt needed to be addressed. At the same time, passports are what identify one, almost universally, as a citizen.

I didn't mean to sound like I was arguing with you; just using your comment as a platform. Maybe using the privilege argument would be a bit more effective in a repeal. Though, I still have other ideas for addressing the problem.

Perhaps. I'd be glad to assist with this repeal attempt.

[Opiachus]

*ahem*

No to compulsory schooling in the World Assembly. No.

Besides, Quelesh has gotten along just fine for decades now without any kind of age-stratified education system, and you would seek to suddenly force that upon us too?

No.

Alexandria Yadoru
Interim Ambassador to the World Assembly
Empire of Quelesh

Well, you could always resign from the WA if you don't like it. Then sign up after it is passed. And I think we all know that education would represent a better future for your country.

As for the repeal attempt, That sounds like a good idea. I'll work on it.

[Opiachus]

The duplication aisde, we note that not all member states may have graded education. Again, we think Glen-Rhodes' proposal is much better yet we value the input from Opiachus.

For those states, I recommend we could further define the grades into age groups.

[Sanctaria]

Well, you could always resign from the WA if you don't like it. Then sign up after it is passed. And I think we all know that education would represent a better future for your country.

Just on a point of information, no matter when you join the WA, all of it's passed resolutions are binding law. As such, it wouldn't matter if Quelesh resigned before this came to a vote and then rejoined after it passed, this would still affect that nation.

Yours.,

[Opiachus]

Well, you could always resign from the WA if you don't like it. Then sign up after it is passed. And I think we all know that education would represent a better future for your country.

Just on a point of information, no matter when you join the WA, all of it's passed resolutions are binding law. As such, it wouldn't matter if Quelesh resigned before this came to a vote and then rejoined after it passed, this would still affect that nation.

Yours.,

Whoops.

Well, he could resign permanently. But that would be a big descision. But I don't want to change the wording of 1 document that affects all the W.A. just for them.

[Opiachus]

And it's not like education is bad, is it?

[Sanctaria]

That would depend. Education can be "bad". For example, if a country has indoctrination, blatant lies, and propaganda in their education system/curriculum, one could argue that the education system in that country would be sub-par or "bad", as you put it.

Saying that, if you mean that progress in any education system can't be "bad", this Ambassador would be inclined to agree, but I'm sure many others would not.

On the proposal itself, we must rise in opposition. While we in Sanctaria pride ourselves on our Education system and welcome improvments, it must be said that this proposal would do anything but improve. It is definately not an issue for the General Assembly to debate and it seems to me to be micro-managing of the highest order.

We wish the author luck in any future attempts.

Yours.,

[Quelesh]

*ahem*

No to compulsory schooling in the World Assembly. No.

Besides, Quelesh has gotten along just fine for decades now without any kind of age-stratified education system, and you would seek to suddenly force that upon us too?

No.

Alexandria Yadoru
Interim Ambassador to the World Assembly
Empire of Quelesh

Well, you could always resign from the WA if you don't like it. Then sign up after it is passed. And I think we all know that education would represent a better future for your country.

As for the repeal attempt, That sounds like a good idea. I'll work on it.

We already have education in our country, Ambassador. We have a voluntary, non-stratified system of diverse methods of education available to all Quelesians, and this system has served us extraordinarily well for decades. Compelling certain Quelesians to attend a certain form of state-mandated education in age-segregated "grades" would be very harmful to our society.

[Aven Dale]

As formentioned, wether education is bad depends on that naton in question. Im sure that some of the more oppressive nations would see education as a bad thing because lack of education aids in creating a easily opressed people, or maybe a nation just feels that a lack of education is best for its citizens.

And as Sancataria pointed out, the micro-managment in this proposal is a bit out there, for example: "CALLS FOR a school to be put in less than a 10 kilometre radius from any given residence with appropriate bussing;"

Good luck with your future endeavours,
Aven DAle

[Linux and the X]

Well, you could always resign from the WA if you don't like it. Then sign up after it is passed. And I think we all know that education would represent a better future for your country.

Just on a point of information, no matter when you join the WA, all of it's passed resolutions are binding law. As such, it wouldn't matter if Quelesh resigned before this came to a vote and then rejoined after it passed, this would still affect that nation.

Yours.,

OOC: Unless it was changed, the game code does not apply past resolutions to new members. However, IC-ly, it is generally expected that one complies with resolution passed before a nation joined the WA. But on the third hand, explicitly RPing defiance is perfectly permitted.

And it's not like education is bad, is it?

Education is not bad. However, both the Happily Depressed Hackers and the Queleshian Empire agree that compulsory education is bad. Fortunately for us, this does have a loophole.

[Bears Armed]

Category: Education and Creativity
Area of Affect: Educational
Name: Mandatory Grade Education
_________________________________

UNDERSTANDING that third-world nations

OOC: Illegal for RL reference.

[Volrickk]

Actually GR, if you defined a "Citizen" as any inhabitant in your nation, you'd have to provide an education to immigrants too.

The resolution shouldn't have used the term at all. Crackpot ideas that nations would send troves of immigrants to a nation to receive an education, as an economic attack no less, were frankly the most idiotic thing I've ever read in a debate.

Citizen is pretty implicitly defined as a person who has a passport or other document identifying them as a "citizen".

Citizenship confers privileges, duties, and responsibilities. Being able to obtain a passport is a privilege of citizenship. According to the resolution in question, education is merely a privilege of citizenship, rather than a right of all people.

Disclaimer: The Dominion of Volrickk is not, does not claim, and asserts that it never will be, a member of the World Assembly

Honerable Rhodes, as a Independent observer I must point out that that would be a inspired, nay, a brilliant military tactic easily on the scale of large scale terrorist attack on infrastructure or EMP weaponry attacks.