[SUBMITTED] Passage for Scientific Inquiry

[Fern Prairie]

PASSAGE OF SCIENTIFIC INQUIRY CATEGORY: Education and Creativity AREA: Cultural Heritage

NOTING a lengthy history in which the pure scientific endeavors of the scientific fields of geology, hydrogeology, paleontology, volcanology, botany, zoology, and astronomy have been impeded by frivolous bickering between nations.

DEFINING these "pure scientific endeavors" as those which do not draw immediate marketable utility.

FURTHER NOTING that many nations contain natural features that are often critical for our understanding of these fields such as geologic formations, indigenous floral and faunal populations, et cetera.

LASTLY NOTING that the lot of these fields often contribute to our concepts relating to existentialism and our humanly pursuit of understanding.

INTENDING to generate a global environment in which these sciences may pursue their studies, while maintaining respect for the cultures, environments, and civilizations they must intrude on in order to do so.

CREATES the Administration on Geologic, Biologic, and Astronomic Endeavors (AGBAE).

MANDATES all nations give scientific expeditions licensed by AGBAE access to areas of particular scientific interest.

DEEMS the AGBAE the following administrative powers:
a.) The power to give individual expeditions access to areas of academic interest in foreign nations.
b.) The power to refuse expeditions whose primary motive is not pure science.
c.) The power to refuse expeditions who have a criminal record, or any other record that may cause suspicion of their good intentions.
d.) The power to refuse expeditions that have great uncalculated risk to locals or to members of the expedition.
e.) The obligation to order expeditions to remain, for the duration, in the selected geographical area of study.
f.) The obligation to note that any expedition straying from the defined area of study are subject to punishment by the nation intruded upon.
e.) The obligation to refuse any expeditions which would intrude and compromise areas of particular cultural or military importance.
f.) The obligation to accept any other expedition otherwise.

thoughts? feedback?

Edit: Changed to correct category issues.
Edit: Changed to isolate expeditions.
Edit: Changed to define intent of pure science.
Edit: Changed title due to confusion and length.
Edit: Changed for typos.
Edit: Changed order due to confusion.

We do understand, sirs, that there is an older idea similar to this one, however our intent is far more focused and accommodating, we believe.

[Nullarni]

Ok, interesting idea, but this isn't something that I can support.

This will potentially force our nation to let foriegn nationals in our borders.

Plus,it gives this new agency the power to make areas of our nation off limits to our own citizens.

That goes way too far for me to even consider it.

[Fern Prairie]

In that, are you referring to militarily sensitive areas?

Edit: Understood, and accommodation made.

[Flibbleites]

PRIVILEGES OF PURE SCIENCES CATEGORY: Education and Creativity STRENGTH: Mild

Education and Creativity doesn't have strength, it has area of effect.

[Fern Prairie]

Ah, yes, sorry about that, changing it now.

[Enn]

... so why is this called 'Privileges of Pure Sciences'? Nothing in it is about the pure sciences, the disciplines mentioned are applied sciences.

Angelo Lanerik,
Acting WA Ambassador for Enn

[Norstal]

AGGBAE should isolate expeditions into such areas of academic interests. We do not want possible spies to run around in our territory. The nations may very well provide shelter and provisions to such expeditions or give the responsibility to AGGBAE. The Executive Assembly of Norstal will not vote until revisions are made.

[Fern Prairie]

... so why is this called 'Privileges of Pure Sciences'? Nothing in it is about the pure sciences, the disciplines mentioned are applied sciences.

If I may, sir, correct on that point. Any field of scientific study may spawn applied and pure ventures. For example, finding a more efficient way to locate coal deposits for commercial use is applied geology; studying new-found crystals in a given Jurassic stratum is pure geology. However, I will clarify that point.

AGGBAE should isolate expeditions into such areas of academic interests. We do not want possible spies to run around in our territory. The nations may very well provide shelter and provisions to such expeditions or give the responsibility to AGGBAE. The Executive Assembly of Norstal will not vote until revisions are made.

Noted, agreed, and modified.

[Grays Harbor]

How is this fundamentaly different from the Cooperation in Science Act? It sounds like pointless duplication.

[Fern Prairie]

How is this fundamentaly different from the Cooperation in Science Act? It sounds like pointless duplication.

The Cooperation in Science Act allows for the collective pooling of acquired scientific knowledge and cooperation in lab studies.

Shown here:

ASTONISHED that no provisions have been made for the international sharing and coordination of scientific research,

And here:

To collect, disseminate, and review such research as the governments and scientists of its member nations choose to release to public scrutiny

In contrast, we hope to generate an atmosphere where pure sciences can have access to the naturally occurring assets of foreign nations, to benefit future inquiries.

[Enn]

Then why leave out other scientific domains? What's wrong with mathematics, physics or chemistry?

[edit] My point is, if you wish to concentrate on particular areas, then feel free to do so. But rename your proposal to show it. If you're pushing something called 'Privileges of Pure Sciences', it is not unreasonable that readers would expect to see all pure sciences included, and quite likely not expect to see applied disciplines.

Angelo Lanerik,
Acting WA Ambassador for Enn

[Fern Prairie]

The fields mentions were chosen as they require naturally observed phenomena in high quantity, such as exotic rock strata, fossils, exotic flora, exotic fauna, et cetera. Chemistry, physics, mathematics, and the like do not have this requirement. They, instead, are generally based in laboratory experiments.

Edit: Ah, well seeing that, I actually agree. I will modify the title.

[Grays Harbor]

How is this fundamentaly different from the Cooperation in Science Act? It sounds like pointless duplication.

The Cooperation in Science Act allows for the collective pooling of acquired scientific knowledge and cooperation in lab studies.

Shown here:

ASTONISHED that no provisions have been made for the international sharing and coordination of scientific research,

And here:

To collect, disseminate, and review such research as the governments and scientists of its member nations choose to release to public scrutiny

In contrast, we hope to generate an atmosphere where pure sciences can have access to the naturally occurring assets of foreign nations, to benefit future inquiries.

Which sounds to us to be splitting hairs a bit.

[Fern Prairie]

On the contrary, is is an area entirely uncovered by existing legislation, and poses a serious issue for those involved in these sciences. All too often, issues that are, frankly, ridiculous come in the was of genuine scientific endeavor, particularly in the case of these sciences where examples are needed for often varying and exotic geographical locations.

[Grays Harbor]

What you may consider "serious", many of us consider unwarranted WA intrusion into things which they have no business trying to mandate. There is no WA mandate requiring the sharing of "great chef recipes" either, that doesn't mean we need one.

We are growing weary of the constant attempts to legislate research.

[Burninati0n]

Switch the following two lines:

MANDATES all nations give scientific expeditions licensed by AGBAE access to areas of particular scientific interest.

CREATES the Administration on Geologic, Biologic, and Astronomic Endeavors (AGBAE).

The acronym is not yet defined in the first line.

[Bears Armed]

What you may consider "serious", many of us consider unwarranted WA intrusion into things which they have no business trying to mandate. There is no WA mandate requiring the sharing of "great chef recipes" either, that doesn't mean we need one.

"Hr'rmm...
No, I suppose I'd better not try: Pity, though..."

[Norstal]

The EAoN approves of this draft by a majority of votes. Please notify us via telegram or a post in the thread once you have submit it in order for us to approve it.

[Fern Prairie]

What you may consider "serious", many of us consider unwarranted WA intrusion into things which they have no business trying to mandate. There is no WA mandate requiring the sharing of "great chef recipes" either, that doesn't mean we need one.

We are growing weary of the constant attempts to legislate research.

Your comparison is, sir, totally unwarranted, and you know that.

A real problem exists. It exists in multiple member nations. It does impede innocent pure science. These are facts. Our opinion is that this is serious. Your may be that it is not, that is your choice, sir.

Switch the following two lines:

MANDATES all nations give scientific expeditions licensed by AGBAE access to areas of particular scientific interest.

CREATES the Administration on Geologic, Biologic, and Astronomic Endeavors (AGBAE).

The acronym is not yet defined in the first line.

Noted. Agreed. Changed.

[Burninati0n]

The other irrelevant change you should note is that the title of the act will NOT fit in the submission box when you submit the proposal. You'll need to shorten the title.

[Bergnovinaia]

Yep... the title is WAY to long! WAY!

[Fern Prairie]

The other irrelevant change you should note is that the title of the act will NOT fit in the submission box when you submit the proposal. You'll need to shorten the title.

Noted. Agreed. Changed.

Wow, the space allocated for the title is tiny.

[Grays Harbor]

What you may consider "serious", many of us consider unwarranted WA intrusion into things which they have no business trying to mandate. There is no WA mandate requiring the sharing of "great chef recipes" either, that doesn't mean we need one.

We are growing weary of the constant attempts to legislate research.

Your comparison is, sir, totally unwarranted, and you know that.

A real problem exists. It exists in multiple member nations. It does impede innocent pure science. These are facts. Our opinion is that this is serious. Your may be that it is not, that is your choice, sir.

Problem? Which problem are you referring to? The only problem we see is this attempt to legislate how, when, where and why research can be conducted and the granting of access to any Thomas, Richard and Harriet who comes along. That is the problem as we see it.

[Fern Prairie]

What you may consider "serious", many of us consider unwarranted WA intrusion into things which they have no business trying to mandate. There is no WA mandate requiring the sharing of "great chef recipes" either, that doesn't mean we need one.

We are growing weary of the constant attempts to legislate research.

Your comparison is, sir, totally unwarranted, and you know that.

A real problem exists. It exists in multiple member nations. It does impede innocent pure science. These are facts. Our opinion is that this is serious. Your may be that it is not, that is your choice, sir.

Problem? Which problem are you referring to? The only problem we see is this attempt to legislate how, when, where and why research can be conducted and the granting of access to any Thomas, Richard and Harriet who comes along. That is the problem as we see it.

If I may ask, sir, if you actually read the proposal. First, only research conducted in foreign nations is affected, whatsoever. Secondly, it only grants access to those expeditions which have been approved, with a motive of conducting pure scientific inquiry. Based on that, sir, I have difficulty seeing where your issue lies, truly.

[Fern Prairie]

Thus far, I've only received one serious objection. Even that one we believe to be malinformed. Due to this, I'm am going ahead with submitting this, unless I receive any serious objections in the next few hours.