[DRAFT] Executive Order

[Glen-Rhodes]

"temporary" militias, armies, whatever, is still an NS military and is illegal.

Just a little caveat: So long as the World Assembly isn't directly commanding them, it's perfectly legal to contract military forces.

[Grays Harbor]

"temporary" militias, armies, whatever, is still an NS military and is illegal.

Just a little caveat: So long as the World Assembly isn't directly commanding them, it's perfectly legal to contract military forces.

Your opinion is noted. We do not accept that position, but it is noted that it is what you believe.

[Glen-Rhodes]

Your opinion is noted. We do not accept that position, but it is noted that it is what you believe.

Oh, don't mistake that as my opinion. I completely disagree with it. It's legal, however, for the World Assembly to contract out maximum security prisons; we just can't build them and staff them ourselves. You can potentially subvert all those pesky police and militia rules by using proxies.

[Quadrimmina]

The Republic of Quadrimmina is strongly opposed to this resolution.

[Philimbesi]

The Republic of Quadrimmina is strongly opposed to this resolution.

We're with The Republic of Office Thieves. Especially in the light that it's illegal for at least WA army if not meta gaming.

[Eraplevok]

A compliance ministry, suspension of disbelief...

I would think a compliance ministry would still act as police

suspension of disbelief doesnt make sense to me, to just assume utopia just doesnt make sense

Honestly, I think Glen-Rhodes is the brightest guy playing this game

[Hirota]

The gnomes don't need any help enforcing international law, a single gnome can take down a couple of regions during a single lunch break, and still have time to finish their packet of cheese & onion crisps.

[Philimbesi]

Honestly, I think Glen-Rhodes is the brightest guy playing this game

So does he. I kid. I kid.

[Embolalia]

A compliance ministry, suspension of disbelief...

I would think a compliance ministry would still act as police

suspension of disbelief doesnt make sense to me, to just assume utopia just doesnt make sense

Honestly, I think Glen-Rhodes is the brightest guy playing this game

You must find books, TV shows, and all other fiction, to be very boring then. Suspension of disbelief is used in practically all fiction. Doctor Who assumes that a TARDIS, complete with instant space-time travel, is possible. Jennifer Government assumes that an entirely private economy would function. The Bourne books and movies assume that someone could have that ability and training, yet not know who he is. Seriously, this is a game. It's fiction. You already suspend disbelief by assuming there is a way for 54,837 nations in 6,377 regions to exist and communicate with each other.

But if somehow enforcement of WA resolutions is the one thing you can't suspend your disbelief for, consider it this way: gnomes, or whatever enforcement arm already exists, is an integral, pre-built part of the WA. The Compliance Ministry, because it is hard-coded into the game, can therefore be considered an established part of the organization. It is not subject to the rules governing proposals, since it is not in a proposal. The CM is the same as the Secretariat, and the rules itself: because it is part of the game, it does not require a resolution to create it or legitimize it.

[Flibbleites]

A compliance ministry, suspension of disbelief...

I would think a compliance ministry would still act as police

suspension of disbelief doesnt make sense to me, to just assume utopia just doesnt make sense

Honestly, I think Glen-Rhodes is the brightest guy playing this game

You must find books, TV shows, and all other fiction, to be very boring then. Suspension of disbelief is used in practically all fiction. Doctor Who assumes that a TARDIS, complete with instant space-time travel, is possible. Jennifer Government assumes that an entirely private economy would function. The Bourne books and movies assume that someone could have that ability and training, yet not know who he is. Seriously, this is a game. It's fiction. You already suspend disbelief by assuming there is a way for 54,837 nations in 6,377 regions to exist and communicate with each other.

For that matter, it's needed due to nations having bilions and billions of citizens.

[The Palentine]

I would think a compliance ministry would still act as police

Not in the AO, old boy. The Compliance gnomes are shot on sight.
Excelsior,
Se. Horatio Sulla

[Murray the Evil Skull]

a skull is sitting on a barstool, its eyes glow a maleokent red as it speaks...

You all wouldn't have to keep dealing with these types of proposals, foolish mortals, if you would just do the right thing and put me in charge of the WA.

Murray the Evil Skull for WA Executive
"In you heart you know He's right!"

[Bears Armed]

A compliance ministry, suspension of disbelief...

I would think a compliance ministry would still act as police

No, the Ministry's Gnomes simply ensure that all passed Resolutions are written into national law within all of the WA's member nations and then keep an eye open -- and bring court cases, if necessary -- to see that those nations' own authorities do the "necessary" enforcement.

[Eraplevok]

A compliance ministry, suspension of disbelief...

I would think a compliance ministry would still act as police

No, the Ministry's Gnomes simply ensure that all passed Resolutions are written into national law within all of the WA's member nations and then keep an eye open -- and bring court cases, if necessary -- to see that those nations' own authorities do the "necessary" enforcement.

interesting so they arent the "police", just overseers that make sure members follow WA law?

I like what The Palentine does to the gnomes haha

The suspended disbelief for the WA just doesnt cut it for me. The many many nations and regions and citizens in this game bothers me a bit. To be honest I dont even know when we can use RL issues or fake ones. We treat the environment in this game like the RL one, as well as social justice, human rights, etc... Then sometimes when standardizing, lets say, a rail guage, people start claiming they are an island nation. It seems to me that enforcing international law would be an issue considering what RL issues we pay attention to in this game. But it was said its only a game, so fine. Considering its only a game, I don't understand why people take it so seriously.

[Philimbesi]

interesting so they arent the "police", just overseers that make sure members follow WA law?

In that they have no ability to arrest anyone for not following WA laws.. no they aren't police.

[Bears Armed]

A compliance ministry, suspension of disbelief...

I would think a compliance ministry would still act as police

No, the Ministry's Gnomes simply ensure that all passed Resolutions are written into national law within all of the WA's member nations and then keep an eye open -- and bring court cases, if necessary -- to see that those nations' own authorities do the "necessary" enforcement.

interesting so they arent the "police", just overseers that make sure members follow WA law?

Yes. That has to be the case, because resolutions are binding "to the letter" but nations are free to exploit any "reasonable" loopholes that they can find in the wording even if that violates the "spirit" of the resolution concerned (as its author saw it) which couldn't be the case if the Gnomes were actually enforcing the resolutions (on a consistent basis across all of the member nations) themselves...

[Grays Harbor]

A compliance ministry, suspension of disbelief...

I would think a compliance ministry would still act as police

No, the Ministry's Gnomes simply ensure that all passed Resolutions are written into national law within all of the WA's member nations and then keep an eye open -- and bring court cases, if necessary -- to see that those nations' own authorities do the "necessary" enforcement.

interesting so they arent the "police", just overseers that make sure members follow WA law?

Your "arguments" are getting sillier and more desperate. Face the facts, there is no need for this, none whatsoever.

[Kryozerkia]

A compliance ministry, suspension of disbelief...

I would think a compliance ministry would still act as police

No, the Ministry's Gnomes simply ensure that all passed Resolutions are written into national law within all of the WA's member nations and then keep an eye open -- and bring court cases, if necessary -- to see that those nations' own authorities do the "necessary" enforcement.

interesting so they arent the "police", just overseers that make sure members follow WA law?

Your proposal won't see the light of day, so just accept the advice you've already been given.

[Eraplevok]

I completely disagree with it. It's legal, however, for the World Assembly to contract out maximum security prisons; we just can't build them and staff them ourselves. You can potentially subvert all those pesky police and militia rules by using proxies.

I really like what Glen-Rhodes said here. Something should be done in that regards. Seems like from that resolution, the WA is gaining some ground on becoming a police force. I guess I was too overt in the proposal.

[Eraplevok]

interesting so they arent the "police", just overseers that make sure members follow WA law?

In that they have no ability to arrest anyone for not following WA laws.. no they aren't police.

Its just that the member states act as the police for the WA, just like security firms would act as the police for the WA

[Philimbesi]

Its just that the member states act as the police for the WA, just like security firms would act as the police for the WA

No we really don't. I know you want it to be that way but it's not. Move on.

[Grays Harbor]

interesting so they arent the "police", just overseers that make sure members follow WA law?

In that they have no ability to arrest anyone for not following WA laws.. no they aren't police.

Its just that the member states act as the police for the WA, just like security firms would act as the police for the WA

You just cannot accept that this is an illegal proposal, can you?

[Eraplevok]

The WA is breaking its rules any way so why not?

[Eraplevok]

Its just that the member states act as the police for the WA, just like security firms would act as the police for the WA

No we really don't. I know you want it to be that way but it's not. Move on.

yes you do! you have to! how else could it be if you didnt and the WA doesnt have a police force? Don't you capture and bring "war criminals" or even international criminals to justice and the like?

[Charlotte Ryberg]

I'm afraid asking member state's forces is the highest level you can go to get war criminals.