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Neo Lovely
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Helpful Fridays

Postby Neo Lovely » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:42 pm

Every Friday one must do something helpful.
Anything from opening the door for someone to washing their neighbors car.
This establishes a better environment for the people, granted not all will participate however those who sign up at voluntary work vicinities will be rewarded with a signed thank you, and possibly money if the government can afford it.

volunteer work examples
Military Parties - help cater, help set up, clean up
Boys and Girls Club - be a teacher, supervisor

Some work will have certain requirements you must meet in order to do them, however everything is greatly appreciated. There will also be a drug test, failure to pass or comply to a urine test when signing up will result in said person being escorted off the premises. A record will be kept of everyone who attends and if you fail a drug test three times in a five month period you will be incarcerated for one week. If this continues you will be taken to court for a fair trial were a judge may sentence you to life if he or she so chooses.

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Social Security Card - if you have it memorized that is perfectly fine
Birth Certificate
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:44 pm

Is this a proposal or a blog?
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Neo Lovely
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Postby Neo Lovely » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:44 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:Is this a proposal or a blog?

believe it or not a proposal

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Postby East Fancainia » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:48 pm

Whaaaaaa?

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Postby Neo Lovely » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:50 pm

East Fancainia wrote:Whaaaaaa?


Well why not? It's not mandatory however nations would benefit from it, and people would gain work experience if they actually attempted it. Also if a nation goes into a recession people who do not have jobs could find volunteer work, and gain a chance to be hired.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:02 am

You left out the section, then, which states;

Once the volunteer work is done we all sit in a circle around a campfire signing kumbaya and roasting organic marshmallows on hand-carved free range skewers.


Now, please explain how this "Helpful Friday" thing is an international issue? Or even a national issue? This is something which is best left to communities. We do not require the WA to hold our hands on this and mandate volunteer work.
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Postby Neo Lovely » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:13 am

Grays Harbor wrote:You left out the section, then, which states;

Once the volunteer work is done we all sit in a circle around a campfire signing kumbaya and roasting organic marshmallows on hand-carved free range skewers.


Now, please explain how this "Helpful Friday" thing is an international issue? Or even a national issue? This is something which is best left to communities. We do not require the WA to hold our hands on this and mandate volunteer work.



As stated it's not a mandatory ordeal so the WA is not 'holding your hands'.
If this were to go as an international/national issue then it would spark up job interest, positive work ethic, and socail networking of people would be far better.

It's also free publicity for campaigners if they so decided to use this to their own advantage.
If your country/nation doesn't use that method of politics, then it's helpful for the growth of the nation/country.

It's something positive for people to do and maybe even look forward to.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:15 am

It is a bad idea for a WA proposal. Mandated volunteer work. :palm: Do you even know what an "international issue" is? It is something of significant international importance. What it is not is something which one nation tries to foist off as "well, it can become an international issue if we all do this!". again, :palm:
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Postby Neo Lovely » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:22 am

Grays Harbor wrote:It is a bad idea for a WA proposal. Mandated volunteer work. :palm: Do you even know what an "international issue" is? It is something of significant international importance. What it is not is something which one nation tries to foist off as "well, it can become an international issue if we all do this!". again, :palm:


Hm I see
Then perhaps instead of every Friday we widel it down to one day. Much like arbor day in the US only instead of the environment it's for community awareness.

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Postby Hirota » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:34 am

Grays Harbor wrote:It is a bad idea for a WA proposal. Mandated volunteer work. :palm: Do you even know what an "international issue" is? It is something of significant international importance. What it is not is something which one nation tries to foist off as "well, it can become an international issue if we all do this!". again, :palm:
I'm pretty certain when you started out as a newbie, you were just as bad. I know when I started out I had some pretty bad ideas for resolutions.

@Neo Lovely - the key problem with your proposal is that you mention that it's optional, but WA legislation is compulsory. Therefore, what happens is if this passed everyone would have to participate, regardless of if that's your intention or not.

I strongly suggest that you consult theRules for GA proposals, so you have a better idea of what will or will not work. I'd also look at the reference guide as well.
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Postby Nullarni » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:37 am

You'll have to excuse the harshness from our associate from Grays Harbor. I believe he is suffering from over-exposure to stupidity, from all the ridiculous proposals he has been reading through. I think what he means to say is, you need to focus your energy on something more pertinent to the international community.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:09 am

Nullarni wrote:You'll have to excuse the harshness from our associate from Grays Harbor. I believe he is suffering from over-exposure to stupidity, from all the ridiculous proposals he has been reading through. I think what he means to say is, you need to focus your energy on something more pertinent to the international community.


Perhaps we should hire you for our PR department. ;)
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:12 am

Hirota wrote: I'm pretty certain when you started out as a newbie, you were just as bad. I know when I started out I had some pretty bad ideas for resolutions.


Then you would be wrong.
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Postby Nullarni » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:34 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
Hirota wrote: I'm pretty certain when you started out as a newbie, you were just as bad. I know when I started out I had some pretty bad ideas for resolutions.


Then you would be wrong.


Ha ha, I know I was pretty bad. I was going through the old Jolt forums a few weeks ago and I read my first ever proposal. It was completely legal and the format was spot on, but there is no possible way I would support it now. It was so outrageous I am a little bit embarrassed about it even four years later. What's even worse, I was only fifteen delegate approvals from getting it in que. Live and learn, I say.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:44 am

We don't recall having ever proposed one prior to WA#71. We argued many a proposal in the old NSUN, but don't recall proposing one there.
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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:15 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
Nullarni wrote:*snip*


Perhaps we should hire you for our PR department. ;)


We believe it to be a physical impossibility - in the sense that The Laws of Nature forbid it - that there could ever exist a PR department in the whole Multiverse that could prevent Your Excellency's tongue from causing self-inflicted wounds.

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Postby Hirota » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:13 am

Grays Harbor wrote:Then you would be wrong.
Of course I would, because the all-pretentious and all-arrogant Greys Harbour is "never" wrong.
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Postby Nullarni » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:42 am

Hirota wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:Then you would be wrong.
Of course I would, because the all-pretentious and all-arrogant Greys Harbour is "never" wrong.


Strangely enough, that would be my expirience. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say he knows when to pick his battles.

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Postby Aranoff » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:44 am

Mandated Volunteer work is no less than slavery, and the people of Aranoff will not be subject to anything that even proposes, on any international level, any desire to work without compensation.
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Postby Mousebumples » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:47 am

I'm guessing that this proposal has been dropped (hopefully??), but it case the OP has any thoughts of keeping it alive, I must ask the following question:

Category and strength?

Also, I can't speak to GH's beginnings (presumably in the Assembly That Shall Not Be Named), but I know I didn't have any "bad" proposals to start things off. Of course, I've only had a grand total of 4 proposals to this point (ULC x2, Commend AO, and now the IDEA proposal), and I was a member of the Assembly That Shall Not Be Named for a number of years before I wrote the first ULC proposal.

I completely agree that proposing/submitting a few inappropriate/illegal/ill-constructed proposals is par for the course for most new ambassadors to this assembly. But it's not something that happens necessarily to every ambassador.

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:52 am

Honoured ambassador from Neo Lovely, it's quite a nice idea to promote community work, but such a proposal is not quite what the international community has in mind. Member states may freely take this idea up at national level if they wish, though.

Yours etc,

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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:00 am

Hirota wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:Then you would be wrong.
Of course I would, because the all-pretentious and all-arrogant Greys Harbour is "never" wrong.


Please then, show me an example of a resolution We have proposed prior to #71. That could be a difficult task to set for yourself however, as one does not exist.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:03 am

Nullarni wrote:
Hirota wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:Then you would be wrong.
Of course I would, because the all-pretentious and all-arrogant Greys Harbour is "never" wrong.


Strangely enough, that would be my expirience. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say he knows when to pick his battles.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt... At least that's what my wife keeps trying to tell me.


One can never go far wrong quoting that venerable gentleman from the fictitious "USofA", Ben Franklin.
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Postby Philimbesi » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:28 am

I regret to inform the author that I can't submit any suggestion on this proposal, as it is not yet Friday.
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:24 am

Neo Lovely wrote:Requirements Before coming to the voluntary work vicinity
ID
Passport
Social Security Card - if you have it memorized that is perfectly fine
Birth Certificate

"Apart from this proposal's other flaws, most members of my own homeland's population would be unable to meet this 'requirement': The only items on that list of alternative forms of identification that would be considered acceptable --- You did only intend to require any one of those items for any individual person, rather than all of them, yes? --- with which we bother are passports... and, so far, relatively few people have one of those..."


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