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[DRAFT] Second Hand Smoke Act

Postby Rapturopia » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:06 pm

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Second Hand Smoke Act
A Resolution to reduce the effects of second hand tobacco smoke.
Category: Recreational Drug Use | Outlaw | Proposed by Rapturopia
Preamble:
    It has become apparent over years of medicinal study, and common sense, that people gain no benefit from smoking other then short term relaxation. The long term negative effects of this however far out way the short term gains. This resolution specifically addresses the health concerns presented to those who inhale the harmful toxins emitted by smokers. The following points are proposed to reduce second hand smoking’s impact:

    UNDERSTANDING all citizens maintain their right to smoke tobacco freely;

    ALSO UNDERSTANDING however, that the rights of citizens not wishing to endanger their health must be considered;

    UNDERSTANDING: "smoke-free" refers to a designation of no tobacco smoking;
THEREFORE impose the following:

    (i) All government owned buildings must be deemed "smoke-free";

    (ii) All government recreational facilities including parks, etc must be deemed smoke free;

    (iii) All places of business must be deemed smoke free, except for an outdoor space or outdoor patio, no larger then 13 feet long, 17 feet wide, and 10 feet tall;

    (iv) Tobacco smoking within vehicles with children under the age of 16 inside is prohibited;
    (v) Smoking Tobacco on publicly offered transportation services is prohibited;

FURTHERMORE smoking on private property is allowed .
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Postby Rapturopia » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:11 pm

Canadai wrote:Although I support this highly, many members of the Parliament have deemed this infringes highly on national sovereignty.

Is this a fact? May I enquire how the sovereignty of your nation is threatened by outlawing a deadly toxin from within your own institutions?

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Postby Quadrimmina » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:24 pm

Rapturopia wrote:
Canadai wrote:Although I support this highly, many members of the Parliament have deemed this infringes highly on national sovereignty.

Is this a fact? May I enquire how the sovereignty of your nation is threatened by outlawing a deadly toxin from within your own institutions?

Perhaps it infringes upon a nation's right to ensure that their citizens die a slow and painful death?
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Postby Rapturopia » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:27 pm

Quadrimmina wrote:
Rapturopia wrote:
Canadai wrote:Although I support this highly, many members of the Parliament have deemed this infringes highly on national sovereignty.

Is this a fact? May I enquire how the sovereignty of your nation is threatened by outlawing a deadly toxin from within your own institutions?

Perhaps it infringes upon a nation's right to ensure that their citizens die a slow and painful death?

Yes, and I wish to go outside and run around naked and shoot up 30 people, but those damn pesky laws keep getting in the way. We must do away with them, their infringing on my rights.

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Postby Rapturopia » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:31 pm

Canadai wrote:Some nations may decide that their citizens have the right to smoke no matter where they are. Although this is not the case in our glorious nation, it could infringe in right of the nation over the people.

But I must say, so long as a nation gives its citizens the right to smoke, their is no infringment on rights created. If I outlawed completley, then the Hellish fires of anger would engulf this resolution, but I do not think that something as trivial as "I want to smoke while I wait in line for my liscence" should stop it.

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Postby Rapturopia » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:34 pm

Canadai wrote:I see what you are saying, but if this came to a vote we would have to vote against this resolution.

Very well, you are entitled to your vote, and I do appreciate the feedback!

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Postby Quadrimmina » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:44 pm

Rapturopia wrote:
Canadai wrote:I see what you are saying, but if this came to a vote we would have to vote against this resolution.

Very well, you are entitled to your vote, and I do appreciate the feedback!

Our Republic, having banned smoking, supports the intent and the spirit of this resolution. However, we would like to suggest that instead, the resolution be drafted in a way to prevent smoking in public areas and buildings, and to encourage smoking rooms and etc where people can smoke freely. Oh, and no smoking on public transport either.
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Postby Rapturopia » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:47 pm

Quadrimmina wrote:
Rapturopia wrote:
Canadai wrote:I see what you are saying, but if this came to a vote we would have to vote against this resolution.

Very well, you are entitled to your vote, and I do appreciate the feedback!

Our Republic, having banned smoking, supports the intent and the spirit of this resolution. However, we would like to suggest that instead, the resolution be drafted in a way to prevent smoking in public areas and buildings, and to encourage smoking rooms and etc where people can smoke freely. Oh, and no smoking on public transport either.

Hm, good idea, I like it, the public transport one. And, as for public areas and buildings, I figured government and private sectors would cover it. The fact is once you say public, people question what public means, is my front lawn public etc. But Ill try and hammer it out to be a bit more restrictive on public areas and relaxed on designated areas.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:33 pm

No. It is not for you or anybody else to decide and mandate what our tobacco laws are.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:57 pm

Although some member states may favour this, the honoured ambassador from Charlotte Ryberg does not think that controlling smoking policies of member states at this level is worthy of international consideration, although mandatory warnings in cigarette packages may be a good idea and worthy of international consideration.
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Postby Linux and the X » Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:16 am

Rapturopia wrote:(iv) Tobacco smoking within vehicles with children under the age of 16 inside is prohibited;

Would children under the age of sixteen be permitted to smoke in their own vehicle? Of course, there are no children in Linux and the X, so it won't affect us.

(vi) Smoking Tobbacco on privatley offered transportational services, such as Taxi services is prohibited;

FURTHERMORE smoking on private property is allowed .

Is the interior of a taxi not private property?
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Postby Kramis » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:55 am

I support your proposal 100%. :clap:

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Postby Philimbesi » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:43 am

This is not an international issue. It's a national issue for national governments to decide.
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Postby Rapturopia » Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:17 am

Linux and the X wrote:
Rapturopia wrote:(iv) Tobacco smoking within vehicles with children under the age of 16 inside is prohibited;

Would children under the age of sixteen be permitted to smoke in their own vehicle? Of course, there are no children in Linux and the X, so it won't affect us.

(vi) Smoking Tobbacco on privatley offered transportational services, such as Taxi services is prohibited;

FURTHERMORE smoking on private property is allowed .

Is the interior of a taxi not private property?


It says, under 16, so even though 16 year olds should not be smoking in most cases, they may smoke; also fair enough about the taxi thing.
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Postby Rapturopia » Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:19 am

Philimbesi wrote:This is not an international issue. It's a national issue for national governments to decide.

Technically, every issue is a national issue that the WA addresses.

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Postby Mousebumples » Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:25 am

Rapturopia wrote:It says, under 16, so even though 16 year olds should not be smoking in most cases, they may smoke; also fair enough about the taxi thing.

Perhaps in your nation, those under 16 would be unlikely to be smoking. However, different nations have different ages of majority and not all nations are populated by humans, so life expectancies may differ as well.

Further, some nations may not even restrict smoking to those who have reached their majority. I strongly encourage you to avoid making blanket statements about all nations that may or may not be true. (OOC: i.e. don't use RL ages/laws for such statements)

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Postby Urgench » Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:32 am

Mousebumples wrote:
Rapturopia wrote:It says, under 16, so even though 16 year olds should not be smoking in most cases, they may smoke; also fair enough about the taxi thing.

Perhaps in your nation, those under 16 would be unlikely to be smoking. However, different nations have different ages of majority and not all nations are populated by humans, so life expectancies may differ as well.

Further, some nations may not even restrict smoking to those who have reached their majority. I strongly encourage you to avoid making blanket statements about all nations that may or may not be true. (OOC: i.e. don't use RL ages/laws for such statements)

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It is also worth pointing out that in some, perhaps many, WA member states the ill-effects of use of tobacco products have been eliminated by advancements in bio--science and medical science.

We would oppose this statute absolutely. In no way should it be the business of this organisation to introduce laws of this kind, which could only be justified at a strictly national level.


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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:42 am

Rapturopia wrote:
Philimbesi wrote:This is not an international issue. It's a national issue for national governments to decide.

Technically, every issue is a national issue that the WA addresses.


No they are not. There have been many resolutions passed which are truly of an international nature and which deal with international issues. This is something which is solely a national issue however, and is a very good example of one persons vision of "how it should be for everybody because I am so enlightened as to know what is best for all of you".
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Postby Neutonica » Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:56 am

Neutonica is a little discomforted by the nature of many of the recent drafts submitted for assembly scrutiny. Surely, surely, there are major problems in the universe that have not yet been tackled by any of the resolutions implemented thus far... not smoking, surely.

But, this delegate shall restrain himself from going to the bar to do some heavy depressed drinking.

Okay, with regards to the second-hand smoke draft, this delegate believes that it is not a problem every country faces. Well, in Neutonica, very few people smoke, as no one has imported cigarettes en masse as of yet. Currently, cigarettes are only the little sucking sticks of the rich, and cigars are the big sucking sticks of the rich. The mass is still relatively unharmed by second-hand smoke, and is apathetic to the way the rich are killing themselves. It is with this background in mind therefore that Neutonica rejects this draft at hand.

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Postby Ykpaihaa » Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:59 am

This law holds no relevance to international relations, human rights, and infringes upon the rights of Ykpaihaa and her provinces to make legislation. It is far to specific and holds no place being passed. Also, there are many more crucial issues that should be addressed, as stated by Neutonica.
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Postby By-and-By Island » Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:01 am

We agree. We would be honored to vote FOR the act.

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Postby Serrland » Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:47 am

Serrland cannot support this draft, despite the good intentions behind it. There is no reason why an international body should determine domestic tobacco laws, especially when similar measures may already be in place. What's next, mandating a fixed tobacco tax?

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Postby Maul-5 » Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:56 am

What gives you right to say what private enterprise should say? Pubs smell like piss, they need a few smokers to out smell it a bit. What about an office building where everybody smokes? Surely nobody is being harmed by anybody elses smoke as much as their own?

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Postby Kaputer » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:02 am

The Nation of Kaputer fears Rapturopia's Drafts of WA resolutions because they are all blatant attacks on Soveirgnity someone should learn to stop sticking their nose in other countries business.
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Postby Novikov » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:04 am

The Novikovian WA mission vehemently opposes this proposed legislation.
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