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[DRAFT] WA Conference on Global Aging

Postby Unibot » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:29 pm

Eduard handed you a copy of a new proposal that he 'borrowed' off his future self's desk, and bite his fingernails in fear of your gut reaction and criticism.

WA Conference on Global Aging
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.
Category: Social Justice | Strength: Significant | Proposed by: Unibot

The General Assembly,

Deeply concerned about the irreversible and inevitable transition of the world demographic that will ultimately result in an older global populace,

Endeavoring to ensure that member-nations of the World Assembly are prepared to facilitate this aging demographic whilst protecting the dignity, independence and quality of life for the elderly,

Hereby,

1. Requires that member-nations:
  • Maintain and/or develop their ambulatory services (medical and nursing care, geriatric clinics, domestic services), institutional care and facilities for health screening and counseling to comfortably meet the demands of their aging population;
  • Ensure the availability of sufficient foodstuffs and clean drinking water to the elderly, especially those that have been rendered immobile, through appropriate systems (such as food delivery);
  • Maintain and/or develop a faction of physicians and healthcare professionals trained in the relevant areas of gerontology, geriatrics, psychogeriatrics and geriatric nursing to comfortably meet the demands of their aging population;
  • Coordinate social welfare and healthcare services to offset any increased costs for social services due to the aforementioned requirements;

2. Demands that all member-nations prevent the sale of consumer goods and equipment that specifically is marketed towards the elderly but does not account the vulnerability of the aged;

3. Insists that all member-nations must:
  • Plan, coordinate and organize with the private sector (if applicable), the construction of housing that is suited for a wide variety of elderly people and accounts for cultural and socioeconomic diversity, as well as the differing self-sufficiency of the aged;
  • Enact regulations, policies and measures or otherwise arrange to protect the elderly from abuse, financial exploitation and other crimes that are facilitated by the vulnerability of the aged;
  • Demand that urban construction and infrastructure design account for the additional needs of the elderly;

4. Declares that the right of older workers to be employed is dependent upon their ability to perform their work rather than chronological age;

5. Stipulates that all member-nations must ensure that every person whose age has prevented them from continuing their employment shall receive an appropriate minimum income to live without fear of homelessness or any basic necessity, this income can be provided through any method of social security or welfare at the discretion of the member-nation;


BAM!
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Postby American Capitalist » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:46 pm

I like it even in my hardened Capitalist heart I think the Government should take care of the elderly. The only thing I have trouble with is this clause:
2. Demands that all member-nations prevent the sale of consumer goods and equipment that does not account the vulnerability of the aged;


Would it ban the use of Skate Boards? You need to go into more detail with this clause. I'm really glad to see we're finally taking care of A mean old man.
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Postby Unibot » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:13 pm

I've altered the clause, now it suggests that skateboards can be sold, but they need a disclaimer to declare that skateboards may not be safe to be used by those who are frail.

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Postby American Capitalist » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:20 pm

Unibot wrote:I've altered the clause, now it suggests that skateboards can be sold, but they need a disclaimer to declare that skateboards may not be safe to be used by those who are frail.

That's better if I couldn't use my Magnum, or Whip I don't know what I would do. I'm guessing the clause is more for medicinal purposes then any thing?

OOC OFF TOPIC: Is there a retirement fund for the WA?
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Postby Hetworld » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:47 pm

2. Demands that all member-nations prevent the sale of consumer goods and equipment that does not account the vulnerability of the aged with at-least proper warning disclaimers and labels;


We feel that this is not practically sound. A lot of goods and equipment have the potential to harm the aged (such as sausages; choking hazard). By mandating this almost every single thing will have to be labelled. We doubt that the aged population in Hetworld do not have the common sense to know what's bad for them and how to take precautions.

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Postby Unibot » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:56 pm

Hetworld wrote:
2. Demands that all member-nations prevent the sale of consumer goods and equipment that does not account the vulnerability of the aged with at-least proper warning disclaimers and labels;


We feel that this is not practically sound. A lot of goods and equipment have the potential to harm the aged (such as sausages; choking hazard). By mandating this almost every single thing will have to be labelled. We doubt that the aged population in Hetworld do not have the common sense to know what's bad for them and how to take precautions.


Edited for your concerns.

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Postby Quelesh » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:08 pm

4. Declares that the right of older workers to be employed is dependent upon their ability to perform their work rather than chronological age;

5. Stipulates that all member-nations must ensure that every person whose age has prevented them from continuing their employment shall receive an appropriate minimum income to live without fear of homelessness or any basic necessity, this income can be provided through any method of social security or welfare at the discretion of the member-nation;


Hm, if only there were something like this in Restrictions on Child Labor..
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Postby Flibbleites » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:12 pm

Wouldn't it be simpler to just kill all the old farts? I mean come on, how on Earth is this an issue that merits WA involvement?

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Postby Unibot » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:40 pm

Flibbleites wrote:Wouldn't it be simpler to just kill all the old farts?


Eduard smiled deviously, "I didn't say you couldn't. Surely any demographic that you're going to forcefully emigrate by way of iceberg or shoot in a dignified line-up should at-least have 'properly trained' physicians to pronounce their death or otherwise facilitate it."
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:27 am

Basically, Ms. Harper observed that some member states require people to save up for even a basic pension while in employment. Some member states may say if one didn't work hard enough then tough luck. But we think the aged still have some potential regardless, and she thinks this draft has some merit, but if the aged are given financial help, why not the unemployed?

Also, could you please clarify why you have chosen strong as the strength? Thanks.

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Postby Unibot » Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:09 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Also, could you please clarify why you have chosen strong as the strength? Thanks.


Hhhm... the category fits the topic well, and the proposal could cost quite a bit in some nations.

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:42 am

We are perfectly okay with the category, but I'm not sure about the true scale of the cost, as most member states already have some degree of welfare programme for the elderly. We thought it would be more along the lines of significant.

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Postby Unibot » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:17 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:We are perfectly okay with the category, but I'm not sure about the true scale of the cost, as most member states already have some degree of welfare programme for the elderly. We thought it would be more along the lines of significant.


I can live with that, okay.. I've changed the strength.

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Postby Manticore Reborn » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:19 am

Unibot wrote:2. Demands that all member-nations prevent the sale of consumer goods and equipment that specifically is marketed towards the elderly but does not account the vulnerability of the aged;


The representative from the Kingdom of Manticore Reborn is quite confused. If asked what this clause is meant to say/do, he is at a complete loss.
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Postby Unibot » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:31 am

Manticore Reborn wrote:
Unibot wrote:2. Demands that all member-nations prevent the sale of consumer goods and equipment that specifically is marketed towards the elderly but does not account the vulnerability of the aged;


The representative from the Kingdom of Manticore Reborn is quite confused. If asked what this clause is meant to say/do, he is at a complete loss.


Eduard frowned, "You can't sell.."

Eduard's aide tossed a bottle of medication from a red, Santa sack at the Manicorian ambassador. ".. vitamins for the elderly, that will likely kill them because they are elderly."

The aide, pulled out a scooter and tossed it out the bag at another delegation, "scooters for old fogies that are too dangerous for elderly people to be driving.."

The aide continued to throw numerous other products at members of the assembly including malfunctioning hearing-aids, cartons of poisonous jello, exploitative health insurance packages and various other colorful scams...

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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:36 am

We fail to see how any of this is anything that should be considered by the WA.
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Postby Unibot » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:41 am

Grays Harbor wrote:We fail to see how any of this is anything that should be considered by the WA.


Eduard snorted, "You seem to 'fail' at this quite often, maybe you need to be put out to pasture, old man."

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:07 am

Okay, so now, Ms. Harper thinks that our basic focus of this draft should be on the pension system and old age care. These are what we think should be the two key focuses.

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Postby Neutonica » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:11 am

Unibot wrote:
Deeply concerned about the irreversible and inevitable transition of the world demographic that will ultimately result in an older global populace,



The delegation of Neutonica is quite satisfied with Unibot's proposal, although perhaps it is more reluctant to accept the above clause in the draft, as it is unsure if the world is indeed aging, or if the "ageing" is indeed inevitable. As far as Neutonica is concerned, there is a continuous out-spring of youth as the birth rates are relatively constant. And furthermore, there was never a real "baby boom" in Neutonica's history, which means that the event of an entire populace of old people is unlikely to happen in the short to middle term future.

However, Neutonica believes there is merit to the proposal, and believes that the rationale for the proposal can be simply to provide welfare for the elderly in our nations, as it is every nation's responsibility to support its weakest members. (Or something along those lines.)

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Postby Unibot » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:23 am

Neutonica wrote:... which means that the event of an entire populace of old people is unlikely to happen in the short to middle term future.


Eduard shook his head, "I did not say it would.. I said that in general, the average citizen will be older than the norm of previous ages... the populace will not be entirely old."
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:13 pm

Unibot wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:We fail to see how any of this is anything that should be considered by the WA.


Eduard snorted, "You seem to 'fail' at this quite often, maybe you need to be put out to pasture, old man."


"While we do generally take care to maintain an aire of civility here, we believe this calls for a more direct response as may be found among the factory workers.... Bugger off."
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Postby Flibbleites » Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:57 pm

Unibot wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:We fail to see how any of this is anything that should be considered by the WA.


Eduard snorted, "You seem to 'fail' at this quite often, maybe you need to be put out to pasture, old man."

Considering that you've done more time hopping than the Doctor, I think perhaps you're the one who is about to be, as you put it, put out to pasture. And this proposal is simply your way of getting the WA to foot the bill.

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Postby Manticore Reborn » Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:26 pm

Unibot wrote:
Manticore Reborn wrote:
Unibot wrote:2. Demands that all member-nations prevent the sale of consumer goods and equipment that specifically is marketed towards the elderly but does not account the vulnerability of the aged;


The representative from the Kingdom of Manticore Reborn is quite confused. If asked what this clause is meant to say/do, he is at a complete loss.


Eduard frowned, "You can't sell.."

Eduard's aide tossed a bottle of medication from a red, Santa sack at the Manicorian ambassador. ".. vitamins for the elderly, that will likely kill them because they are elderly."

The aide, pulled out a scooter and tossed it out the bag at another delegation, "scooters for old fogies that are too dangerous for elderly people to be driving.."

The aide continued to throw numerous other products at members of the assembly including malfunctioning hearing-aids, cartons of poisonous jello, exploitative health insurance packages and various other colorful scams...

Ahhhh....now that the representative from the Kingdom of Manticore Reborn understands the purpose of the clause, my government is prepared to respond. It is illegal on New Manticore to knowingly sell a defective product or one that will harm the purchaser. Further, it is the belief of my nation that similar laws already exist in any reasonable nation for the same reason.
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Postby Unibot » Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:49 pm

Flibbleites wrote:
Unibot wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:We fail to see how any of this is anything that should be considered by the WA.


Eduard snorted, "You seem to 'fail' at this quite often, maybe you need to be put out to pasture, old man."

Considering that you've done more time hopping than the Doctor, I think perhaps you're the one who is about to be, as you put it, put out to pasture. And this proposal is simply your way of getting the WA to foot the bill.

Bob Flibble
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Eduard nodded,
"I haven't done much 'hopping' at all, I only started last year... you must be referring to my older bearded incarnation from the future who pops in once and while..."

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Postby Unibot » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:41 am

OOC: Anymore thoughts? :(

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