
by Osthia » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:40 am

by Osthia » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:44 am

by Manticore Reborn » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:58 am

by Nullarni » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:34 am
Manticore Reborn wrote:OOC: A mod ruling on this is needed as I think this is illegal. I think the WA General Fund already takes care of this.
by Charlotte Ryberg » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:36 am

by Manticore Reborn » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:52 am

by Osthia » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:09 am

by Quadrimmina » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:11 am

by Glen-Rhodes » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:34 am
Nullarni wrote:No, GA #17 is just how the WA itself and its various programs get funded. The resolutions that it would be duplicating have all been repealed, (except for "The Clean Water Resolution", in which case it is about to be repealed.)
Anyway, I think the fact that they have all been repealed should tell you something: You are going to have a lot of resistance to this proposal, and even if by some chance you do get it passed it still won't be safe.

by Osthia » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:40 am

by Nullarni » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:56 am
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Nullarni wrote:No, GA #17 is just how the WA itself and its various programs get funded. The resolutions that it would be duplicating have all been repealed, (except for "The Clean Water Resolution", in which case it is about to be repealed.)
Anyway, I think the fact that they have all been repealed should tell you something: You are going to have a lot of resistance to this proposal, and even if by some chance you do get it passed it still won't be safe.
Access to Life-Saving Drugs, the World Health Authority, and the Food Welfare Act are all active resolutions...
Anyways, Glen-Rhodes has long been a proponent of humanitarian welfare in the World Assembly and would likely support a resolution providing aid to developing or underdeveloped nations. However, we are uncertain if a broad resolution would be legal or necessary, considering the numerous humanitarian programs already established and running. I think it would be beneficial to consider a single thing you wish to do, and then write a proposal for it.
- Dr. B. Castro
by Charlotte Ryberg » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:13 am

by Glen-Rhodes » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:52 am
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:I'm not sure about this, but would it be a good idea to have some kind of IMF-like branch of the Accounting Office? But I think GA#94 might have got this, unless it was for individuals and businesses only.

by Osthia » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:19 pm

by Quadrimmina » Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:50 pm
Osthia wrote:The new title of the act is "Aiding Developing Nations Act."
The World Assembly REALIZES that most developing nations can not afford to instigate social, civil, economic, and health reform due to poor economies.
REALIZES that the above reforms help civilians stay healthy, become happy, and therefore help the economy of developing nations.
MANDATES that WA nations MUST give AT LEAST four million of their national currency to nations of the WA that are developing.
DOES NOT force World Assembly members to give aid to developing nations that are NOT in the World Assembly.
ALSO MANDATES that until developing nations are ECONOMICALLY STABLE with a WA category of AT LEAST "Fair," all non-developing WA nations must give humanitarian aid in the form of medical supplies, food, and clean water to civilians.
STATES that if WA nations giving economic aid to developing WA nations feel that their money is being used for purposes other than ECONOMIC, SOCIAL, or HUMANITARIAN reform, that they have a right to CEASE GIVING ALL AID IN ANY FORM to the nation.
Strength: mild
Category: Human Rights

by Manticore Reborn » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:06 pm
Quadrimmina wrote:Osthia wrote:The new title of the act is "Aiding Developing Nations Act."
The World Assembly REALIZES that most developing nations can not afford to instigate social, civil, economic, and health reform due to poor economies.
REALIZES that the above reforms help civilians stay healthy, become happy, and therefore help the economy of developing nations.
MANDATES that WA nations MUST give AT LEAST four million of their national currency to nations of the WA that are developing.
DOES NOT force World Assembly members to give aid to developing nations that are NOT in the World Assembly.
ALSO MANDATES that until developing nations are ECONOMICALLY STABLE with a WA category of AT LEAST "Fair," all non-developing WA nations must give humanitarian aid in the form of medical supplies, food, and clean water to civilians.
STATES that if WA nations giving economic aid to developing WA nations feel that their money is being used for purposes other than ECONOMIC, SOCIAL, or HUMANITARIAN reform, that they have a right to CEASE GIVING ALL AID IN ANY FORM to the nation.
Strength: mild
Category: Human Rights
"MANDATES" does not take into account inflation. Four million of another currency can equal 1 Quadrimminan credit or 2 trillion Quadrimminan credits. No way to differentiate. Try like percentage of GDP or something like that. Like mandate that .05% of a nation's GDP must go to humanitarian aid to foreign WA nations that have poor economies.
The category would better be served as social justice, in our opinion.

by Quadrimmina » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:25 pm
Manticore Reborn wrote:Quadrimmina wrote:Osthia wrote:The new title of the act is "Aiding Developing Nations Act."
The World Assembly REALIZES that most developing nations can not afford to instigate social, civil, economic, and health reform due to poor economies.
REALIZES that the above reforms help civilians stay healthy, become happy, and therefore help the economy of developing nations.
MANDATES that WA nations MUST give AT LEAST four million of their national currency to nations of the WA that are developing.
DOES NOT force World Assembly members to give aid to developing nations that are NOT in the World Assembly.
ALSO MANDATES that until developing nations are ECONOMICALLY STABLE with a WA category of AT LEAST "Fair," all non-developing WA nations must give humanitarian aid in the form of medical supplies, food, and clean water to civilians.
STATES that if WA nations giving economic aid to developing WA nations feel that their money is being used for purposes other than ECONOMIC, SOCIAL, or HUMANITARIAN reform, that they have a right to CEASE GIVING ALL AID IN ANY FORM to the nation.
Strength: mild
Category: Human Rights
"MANDATES" does not take into account inflation. Four million of another currency can equal 1 Quadrimminan credit or 2 trillion Quadrimminan credits. No way to differentiate. Try like percentage of GDP or something like that. Like mandate that .05% of a nation's GDP must go to humanitarian aid to foreign WA nations that have poor economies.
The category would better be served as social justice, in our opinion.
We are afraid that this sounds like a tax which is illegal. WA General Fund already charges nations based on a percentage of their GDP. The intent of this legislation would be better served creating a body to which impoverished nations may apply for grants to be used to further reforms.
The humble representative from the Kingdom of Manticore Reborn yields the floor.

by Manticore Reborn » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:34 pm
Quadrimmina wrote:Manticore Reborn wrote:Quadrimmina wrote:Osthia wrote:The new title of the act is "Aiding Developing Nations Act."
The World Assembly REALIZES that most developing nations can not afford to instigate social, civil, economic, and health reform due to poor economies.
REALIZES that the above reforms help civilians stay healthy, become happy, and therefore help the economy of developing nations.
MANDATES that WA nations MUST give AT LEAST four million of their national currency to nations of the WA that are developing.
DOES NOT force World Assembly members to give aid to developing nations that are NOT in the World Assembly.
ALSO MANDATES that until developing nations are ECONOMICALLY STABLE with a WA category of AT LEAST "Fair," all non-developing WA nations must give humanitarian aid in the form of medical supplies, food, and clean water to civilians.
STATES that if WA nations giving economic aid to developing WA nations feel that their money is being used for purposes other than ECONOMIC, SOCIAL, or HUMANITARIAN reform, that they have a right to CEASE GIVING ALL AID IN ANY FORM to the nation.
Strength: mild
Category: Human Rights
"MANDATES" does not take into account inflation. Four million of another currency can equal 1 Quadrimminan credit or 2 trillion Quadrimminan credits. No way to differentiate. Try like percentage of GDP or something like that. Like mandate that .05% of a nation's GDP must go to humanitarian aid to foreign WA nations that have poor economies.
The category would better be served as social justice, in our opinion.
We are afraid that this sounds like a tax which is illegal. WA General Fund already charges nations based on a percentage of their GDP. The intent of this legislation would be better served creating a body to which impoverished nations may apply for grants to be used to further reforms.
The humble representative from the Kingdom of Manticore Reborn yields the floor.
Then that would illegalize any mandate. Which removes the purpose of this act.

by Osthia » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:36 pm

by Meekinos » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:43 pm

by Osthia » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:46 pm

by Manticore Reborn » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:46 pm
Osthia wrote:It is not an illegal tax. In fact, I would like you to tell me how this "tax" is illegal? Give me a quote, give me something.

by Manticore Reborn » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:48 pm
Osthia wrote:I actually thought about that, but I forgot to add it in the proposal. However, if it seems that a nation of the WA that is developing or impoverished happens to go back and forth between being an economically strong country back to an impoverished country for no reason, then all nations have the right to deny sending any aid to that WA country.

by Linux and the X » Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:56 pm
Manticore Reborn wrote:Osthia wrote:It is not an illegal tax. In fact, I would like you to tell me how this "tax" is illegal? Give me a quote, give me something.
From Clause 1 of the WA Resolution 17 WA General Fund1. Declares that the World Assembly shall be funded by donations from member states; the WA will not levy taxes directly upon the citizens or residents of any nation;
From Clause 2:2. Establishes the WA General Fund, which shall be the central source for the funding of WA operations, and the monies from which shall be spent only on maintaining the administration of the WA and missions established by a vote of the World Assembly;
And Clause 8:8. Affirms the right of member nations to maintain full authority over domestic taxation policies, barring those that may include unfair discriminatory practices
The highlighted clauses make it illegal for any further resolutions to call for "Donations" to the WA. Now if you were to create a body that made grants to impoverished nations and made no mention of where the money is coming from--the WA General Fund office would just automatically raise everyone's donation rates accordingly.
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