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[Proposed] Repeal the Sexual Privacy Act

Postby Missourian Rebels » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:22 pm

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REMEMBERING that Resolution #16, Also known as the Sexual Privacy Act, Forbids ALL WA member nations to ban Homosexuality, which is a breach upon the Rights of Member nations who wish to ban sexually IMMORAL acts from their lands

This resolution Mandates that Resolution #16 is to Be regarded as REPEALED, should this resolution be passed

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Postby The Emmerian Unions » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:33 pm

Missourian Rebels wrote:Category: Repeal
Strength: Significant

REMEMBERING that Resolution #16, Also known as the Sexual Privacy Act, Forbids ALL WA member nations to ban Homosexuality, which is a breach upon the Rights of Member nations who wish to ban sexually IMMORAL acts from their lands

This resolution Mandates that Resolution #16 is to Be regarded as REPEALED, should this resolution be passed


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Postby Nemada » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:38 pm

Inserting your own opinion on a controversial issue into a resolution makes it rather unlikely to be passed. Now, if you made up some nonsense about different cultural values it might be enough to make it see the light of day. I highly doubt it will be passed, though.
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Postby Kryozerkia » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:44 pm

The relevant rule from the Rules for GA Proposals, under Repeal:

Furthermore, simply stating "National Sovereignty" is not sufficient grounds for a Repeal. Since such a stance could be used on every single Resolution, it is little more than saying "I don't like it."

You know, so there is no confusion on the matter.
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Postby Freeoplis » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:10 pm

This nation is a strong supporter of equal rights for all individuals, we don't accept such questions of morality and will not support this legislation.
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Postby Novus Niciae » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:41 pm

Our nation supports the right of individuals to live in a manner that causes no harm to others, and individuals have the right to choose who they love regardless of gender since this is not going to cause harm to others.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:56 pm

The Emmerian Unions wrote:Illegal for basing the whole argument on zomg NATSOV!

But 'zomg NATSOV!' isn't the only argument they're making. If you read closely, they're also arguing that homosexuality is immoral.
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Postby Neutonica » Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:17 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
The Emmerian Unions wrote:Illegal for basing the whole argument on zomg NATSOV!

But 'zomg NATSOV!' isn't the only argument they're making. If you read closely, they're also arguing that homosexuality is immoral.


But 'zomg NATSOV!' is their main argument for a repeal. And it doesn't stick.

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Postby Mikedor » Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:44 am

Mikedor not only views homosexuality as NOT immoral, we hold each and every individuals private life to be protected by our laws, and cannot support this repeal attempt.
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:50 am

Nation of Quebec also strongly supports the right of individuals to live in a manner that does not harm harm others. The delegate does not believe that homosexuality causes any harm and believes that personal freedom must come before another person's opinions. The delegate strongly opposes this proposal.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:56 am

Neutonica wrote:But 'zomg NATSOV!' is their main argument for a repeal. And it doesn't stick.

Who cares if the argument isn't convincing? The national sovereignty rule was introduced to block repeals that don't bother making any argument other than "this violates natsov," not any proposal that merely mentions the concept.
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Postby Nullarni » Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:36 pm

Yes, I think we are all in agreement: Come up with some agruemnets to support your position, and then we will talk.
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Postby Urgench » Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:18 pm

Unless it could be proven to us that the Sexual Privacy Act contained a grievous error which caused it to be in some way actively harmful or ineffective at its stated purpose we will never even consider supporting its repeal, and will vehemently oppose such an attempt.



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Postby Ammador » Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:50 pm

Repealing the Sexual Privacy Act would be a violation of OUR National Sovereignty! HA! So. . .THERE!

In language you may understand Missouri: "ZZZZOMMGG!! NATSOV!!! The homos are going to come take my 300 guns away and give them to minorities! ZOMG!!!"

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Postby Missourian Rebels » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:41 pm

Category: Repeal
Strength: Significant

REMEMBERING that Resolution #16, Also known as the Sexual Privacy Act, Forbids ALL WA member nations to ban Homosexuality, which is a breach upon the Rights of Member nations who wish to ban sexually IMMORAL acts from their lands

this Resolution also STATES that homosexuality would lower the reproduction rate, which would open all Countries to be Invaded Culturally and Genetically by Cultures that May or may not be Harmful

This resolution Mandates that Resolution #16 is to Be regarded as REPEALED, should this resolution be passed

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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:44 pm

Missourian Rebels wrote:this Resolution also STATES that homosexuality would lower the reproduction rate, which would open all Countries to be Invaded Culturally and Genetically by Cultures that May or may not be Harmful


Is Your Excellency on drugs? We want some.

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Postby Urgench » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:45 pm

The latest redraft of this proposal is a joke no? We recommend the authors of this silliness to desist in wasting their own time and in insulting the dignity of this organisation.


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Postby Meekinos » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:50 pm

Missourian Rebels wrote:Category: Repeal
Strength: Significant

REMEMBERING that Resolution #16, Also known as the Sexual Privacy Act, Forbids ALL WA member nations to ban Homosexuality, which is a breach upon the Rights of Member nations who wish to ban sexually IMMORAL acts from their lands

this Resolution also STATES that homosexuality would lower the reproduction rate, which would open all Countries to be Invaded Culturally and Genetically by Cultures that May or may not be Harmful

This resolution Mandates that Resolution #16 is to Be regarded as REPEALED, should this resolution be passed

The first clause has been adequately addressed.

The second is utterly asinine. What about heterosexual individuals who REFUSE or CANNOT reproduce? Your second point is drenched in bigotry. It is also utterly irrelevant as there are many factors which can lower reproduction rate. Emigration, infertility, the refusal to reproduce, age...
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Postby Treforysl » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:20 pm

As a nation where those heterosexual couples with no children are guaranteed no tax burden to support those who do, this is a nonsensical motion.

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Postby Mousebumples » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:50 pm

Missourian Rebels wrote:this Resolution also STATES that homosexuality would lower the reproduction rate, which would open all Countries to be Invaded Culturally and Genetically by Cultures that May or may not be Harmful

From looking at this proposal, I presume that Your Excellency's nation would outlaw not only gay marriage - in the make-believe universe where such a repeal attempt would succeed - but also marriage of elderly citizens who are beyond their reproductive years and also the marriage of any individual who is infertile for whatever reason. After all, if the whole purpose of marriage is to increase reproduction, those sorts of marriages should also be banned, yes?

(OOC: Also: why are So many Words unnecessarily Capitalized?)
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:05 pm

Ammador wrote:Repealing the Sexual Privacy Act would be a violation of OUR National Sovereignty! HA! So. . .THERE!

How is repealing a resolution a violation of anyone's national sovereignty?
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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:08 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Ammador wrote:Repealing the Sexual Privacy Act would be a violation of OUR National Sovereignty! HA! So. . .THERE!

How is repealing a resolution a violation of anyone's national sovereignty?


Repealing GA #2 would be. While a repeal of GA #2 could be legal, it would violate NatSov.
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Postby Hirota » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:21 am

Missourian Rebels wrote:REMEMBERING that Resolution #16, Also known as the Sexual Privacy Act, Forbids ALL WA member nations to ban Homosexuality, which is a breach upon the Rights of Member nations who wish to ban sexually IMMORAL acts from their lands
Ambassador, it sounds like you are Jealous?

this Resolution also STATES that homosexuality would lower the reproduction rate, which would open all Countries to be Invaded Culturally and Genetically by Cultures that May or may not be Harmful
Lets have a look. My government has no legislation outlawing homosexuality (and indeed recognises all rights granted to citizens of Hirota regardless of gender, race, sexual orientation, species, or any other form of potential variation you care to imagine). Our homosexual community can adopt, get married, get divorced, and everything else a citizen can wish to do.

Our population is over 13 billion. How on earth do you think anyone is going to want to invade?

Secondly, just because you've said you can't have sex with your boytoy assistant fresh out of university, doesn't mean you are going to go back to the backwater of Missourian Rebels and start having sex with your wife you married for appearances sake.

The population argument you've presented is a lie, plain and simple.
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Postby Neutonica » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:39 am

Missourian Rebels wrote:
this Resolution also STATES that homosexuality would lower the reproduction rate, which would open all Countries to be Invaded Culturally and Genetically by Cultures that May or may not be Harmful



i would like to laugh at one point, minor though it may be,
:rofl: "may or may not be harmful" :rofl:
if it isn't harmful, why in [random individual]'s name should we even bother?

BTW, the cultural and genetic invasion idea sounds very close to radical far-right philosophy.

i yield the floor.

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Postby Meekinos » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:29 am

Neutonica wrote:
Missourian Rebels wrote:
this Resolution also STATES that homosexuality would lower the reproduction rate, which would open all Countries to be Invaded Culturally and Genetically by Cultures that May or may not be Harmful



i would like to laugh at one point, minor though it may be,
:rofl: "may or may not be harmful" :rofl:
if it isn't harmful, why in [random individual]'s name should we even bother?

BTW, the cultural and genetic invasion idea sounds very close to radical far-right philosophy.

i yield the floor.

We shall take the floor, for we just remembered something more we wish to add.

We also have our own bit to add on the "cultural and genetic invasion" bit. It seems the good delegate of the Missourian Rebels hasn't heard of disallowing any form of immigration. They could instead of attempting to repeal such a sound and profitable resolution, resign from the World Assembly. In this way, they won't be bound to the WA's lovey-dovey equality rules and they can have any old discriminatory legislation they so please and curb all the immigration they feel would lead to a cultural and benetic invasion of their nation.
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