[DRAFT] Limitation on Nuclear Testing

[Joshuahood]

I'm pretty sure that this doesn't contradict other proposals, but...

Constructive criticism is much appreciated.

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Limitation on Nuclear Testing
Council: General Assembly|Category: Global Disarmament|Strength: Mild

Description: The World Assembly,

REALIZING that nuclear testing can pose a serious threat to the environments where such testing occurs, as well as to surrounding populations;

ASSERTING that the radiation discharged from nuclear testing is deadly after prolonged exposure;

DISTURBED that despite the serious threat nuclear testing creates, nations persist in the continuation of nuclear testing;

STRESSING the need for the cessation of all nuclear testing in all member states;

HEREBY:

1.) DEFINES "nuclear testing" as the experimentation of the effects of nuclear weapons.

2.) MANDATES:

A.) That all member states cease the unauthorized testing of nuclear weapons within their respective territories.
B.) That all member states refrain from promoting or encouraging unauthorized nuclear explosions or nuclear weapon testing in other nations.
C.) That all member states ensure that nuclear testing be done a safe enough distance away as to not harm a population in any way, be it directly from the explosion itself, or indirectly from contamination.

3.) REQUIRES:

A.) That any member state that does test nuclear weapons, or intends to test nuclear explosions in the future within their respective jurisdiction, to contact the Nuclear Disaster Response Organization (NDRO) for authorization to limit the extent of possible damage caused by the nuclear testing.
B.) That all member states testing nuclear explosions take all necessary precautions to limit the extent of impact of the testing, including but not limited to testing underground, closing off the area of testing after the testing has taken place, and testing nearby areas to ensure that any fallout from the explosion is not spreading.

[Freeoplis]

We first considered breaking this proposal down and commenting on each section however upon a number of reads we realized this proposal is too restrictive. Other Nations may disagree but in drafting a successful proposal the delegation may find a compromise may be more appropriate. Rather than a total ban on testing a proposal for example stipulating testing must be done under ground or various safety measures are in place may gain more support. At present we cannot support this legislation as where will we test our weapons with such a ban? we require some scope to ensure the testing of our weapons.

[Joshuahood]

We first considered breaking this proposal down and commenting on each section however upon a number of reads we realized this proposal is too restrictive. Other Nations may disagree but in drafting a successful proposal the delegation may find a compromise may be more appropriate. Rather than a total ban on testing a proposal for example stipulating testing must be done under ground or various safety measures are in place may gain more support. At present we cannot support this legislation as where will we test our weapons with such a ban? we require some scope to ensure the testing of our weapons.

So you're saying changing it from a complete ban to a ban in certain places, and/or making specific places for testing?

Thanks.

[Freeoplis]

Correct, as the proposal stands there is no way to test nuclear weapons which many nations have, on that basis many Nations may not therefore support it, a compromise with increasing safety standards etc may produce a more successful proposal, obviously as we are the first to comment we may be proven incorrect, though we have a feeling.

[Sionis Prioratus]

Yay! We shall be unstoppable with our antimatter weapons!

Yours in antimatter annihilation,

[Quadrimmina]

Yay! We shall be unstoppable with our antimatter weapons!

Yours in antimatter annihilation,

Our nation has mastered the art of induced baryogenesis. As such, your antimatter weapons are useless as soon as they enter our borders, for it will be taken in by our upgraded Nuclear Arms Protection System and be immediately transformed by our baryogenerator. Any antimatter that enters our borders is immediately transformed into matter.

Also, just as some background, our nation's Ministry of Scientific Research has determined that the size of an antimatter weapon would need to be so great as to be useless. We applaud our colleagues for wasting so much time and money on such a weapon, while we have been funding research into weaponry that can be more readily transported and used.

OoC: That is our favorite signature of yours.

[Manticore Reborn]

As a space faring nation, we are disappointed that this proposal does not take space environments into account.

[Neutonica]

As a space faring nation, we are disappointed that this proposal does not take space environments into account.

Well, kind sir,

A.) That all member states cease the testing of nuclear weapons within their respective territories, and prohibit all testing of nuclear explosions within their jurisdiction.

I think it does under "respective territories".

[Melki]

A.) That all member states cease the testing of nuclear weapons within their respective territories, and prohibit all testing of nuclear explosions within their jurisdiction.

This is very restrictive in itself. I think if maybe an uninhabited area in the middle of a continent would pose little threat to anyone (if it is uninhabited)

B.) That all member states refrain from promoting, causing, participating, or encouraging nuclear explosions or nuclear weapon testing in other nations.

This does not let people use nukes at all in other nations (wars!). Maybe you could make this more clear.

3.) REQUIRES that any member state that does test nuclear weapons to contact the Nuclear Disaster Response Organization (NDRO) to limit the extent of damage caused by the nuclear testing.

This makes sense. :-)

[Nullarni]

Like it has been noted before, this is way too restrictive. I find it foolish to allow the use of nuclear weapons, but disallow the testing of nuclear weapons. That make war the trial run, and I think this would encourge the use of nuclear weapons in war, just so nations can test what they have designed.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Honoured ambassador from Joshuahood: I am concerned that if we banned nuclear weapons testing completely, it could hamper the development of the deterrents even though the weapons would never be used.

[Philimbesi]

The WA allows member nations to keep nuclear weapons as a defensive measure against those non member nations that possess them. This act would keep us from being able to develop new ways to defend ourselves, we can not allow it.

If you are interested in limiting the places where they can be discharged in a test environment, we are willing to negotiate.

[Dravoria]

Dravoria agrees with Philimbesi.

To alter an old phase:

"If you outlaw nuclear weapons, then only outlaws will have them."

The more restrictions you place on WA members' defense and arms, the easier you make it for non-member states to out-gun and out-arm the rest of us.

Nuclear Weapon Technology is an ever increasing field, and now a days it is not just drop a bomb, blow up a whole city. Tactical Nuclear Weapons, allow a high concentration of power in a small target radius. Usefull for bunker penitrations and other targets that are safe from convential weapons. Unless you ban using them...

Also, the fear of Radiation fall-out from such weapons has also changed greatly in the last 65 years. Using new materials for the fission reaction can reduced the ammount of nuclear wastes produced by the reactions. However, if you ban testing...

You see where this goes?

[Joshuahood]

Thanks, this is the new version (also posted on the OP):

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Limitation on Nuclear Testing
Council: General Assembly|Category: Global Disarmament|Strength: Mild

Description: The World Assembly,

REALIZING that nuclear testing can pose a serious threat to the environment, as well as the world's population;

ASSERTING that the radiation discharged from nuclear testing is deadly after prolonged exposure;

DISTURBED that despite the serious threat nuclear testing creates, nations persist in the continuation of nuclear testing;

STRESSING the need for the cessation of all nuclear testing in all member states;

HEREBY:

1.) DEFINES "nuclear testing" as the experimentation of the effects of nuclear weapons on certain objects, whether it is buildings, environments, or living organisms;

2.) MANDATES:

A.) That all member states cease the testing of nuclear weapons within their respective territories within 300 square miles of an inhabited area supply.
B.) That all member states refrain from promoting or encouraging nuclear explosions or nuclear weapon testing in other nations, within 300 square miles of an inhabited area or supply of water.

3.) REQUIRES:

A.) That any member state that does test nuclear weapons, or intends to test nuclear explosions in the future within their respective jurisdiction, to contact the Nuclear Disaster Response Organization (NDRO) to limit the extent of possible damage caused by the nuclear testing.
B.) That all member states testing nuclear explosions must be at least 300 square miles away from any inhabited area or water supply.
C.) That all member states testing nuclear explosions take all necessary precautions to limit the extent of impact of the testing, including but not limited to testing underground, closing off the area of testing after the testing has taken place, and testing nearby areas to ensure that any fallout from the explosion is spreading.

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I hope it doesn't mess it up....

[Manticore Reborn]

The Kingdom of Manticore Reborn believes this proposal has been improved dramatically, however, we feel there are clauses which could be further enhanced.

REALIZING that nuclear testing can pose a serious threat to the environment, as well as the world's population;

My government suggests the following change

REALIZING that nuclear testing can pose a serious threat to environments where such testing occurs, as well as to surrounding populations;

1.) DEFINES "nuclear testing" as the experimentation of the effects of nuclear weapons on certain objects, whether it is buildings, environments, or living organisms;

My government questions the need for the stricken clause. Does it really matter upon what the test is preformed upon?
We also question how the 300 mile limit was established. Are we sure this is sufficient? It also appears that clause 3b is a duplication of 2a.

The humble representative from the Kingdom of Manticore Reborn yields the floor.

[Ainocra]

Rather than an arbitrary 300 mile range, perhaps a clause outlining that no harm be brought to sentient populatiosn and ensuring that testing is done far enough away that no harm can concievably come of it.

[Grays Harbor]

We're sorry, but our curmudgeon gene has taken control, and as a result we cannot support any "How Green and PC Can I Be" proposals.

[Joshuahood]

Latest version:

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Limitation on Nuclear Testing
Council: General Assembly|Category: Global Disarmament|Strength: Mild

Description: The World Assembly,

REALIZING that nuclear testing can pose a serious threat to the environments where such testing occurs, as well as to surrounding populations;

ASSERTING that the radiation discharged from nuclear testing is deadly after prolonged exposure;

DISTURBED that despite the serious threat nuclear testing creates, nations persist in the continuation of nuclear testing;

STRESSING the need for the cessation of all nuclear testing in all member states;

HEREBY:

1.) DEFINES "nuclear testing" as the experimentation of the effects of nuclear weapons.

2.) MANDATES:

A.) That all member states cease the testing of nuclear weapons within their respective territories.
B.) That all member states refrain from promoting or encouraging nuclear explosions or nuclear weapon testing in other nations.
C.) That all member states ensure that nuclear testing be done a safe enough distance away as to not harm a population in any way, be it directly from the explosion itself, or indirectly from contamination.

3.) REQUIRES:

A.) That any member state that does test nuclear weapons, or intends to test nuclear explosions in the future within their respective jurisdiction, to contact the Nuclear Disaster Response Organization (NDRO) to limit the extent of possible damage caused by the nuclear testing.
B.) That all member states testing nuclear explosions take all necessary precautions to limit the extent of impact of the testing, including but not limited to testing underground, closing off the area of testing after the testing has taken place, and testing nearby areas to ensure that any fallout from the explosion is spreading.

[Manticore Reborn]

Latest version:

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Limitation on Nuclear Testing
Council: General Assembly|Category: Global Disarmament|Strength: Mild

Description: The World Assembly,

REALIZING that nuclear testing can pose a serious threat to the environments where such testing occurs, as well as to surrounding populations;

ASSERTING that the radiation discharged from nuclear testing is deadly after prolonged exposure;

DISTURBED that despite the serious threat nuclear testing creates, nations persist in the continuation of nuclear testing;

STRESSING the need for the cessation of all nuclear testing in all member states;

HEREBY:

1.) DEFINES "nuclear testing" as the experimentation of the effects of nuclear weapons.

2.) MANDATES:

A.) That all member states cease the testing of nuclear weapons within their respective territories.
B.) That all member states refrain from promoting or encouraging nuclear explosions or nuclear weapon testing in other nations.
C.) That all member states ensure that nuclear testing be done a safe enough distance away as to not harm a population in any way, be it directly from the explosion itself, or indirectly from contamination.

3.) REQUIRES:

A.) That any member state that does test nuclear weapons, or intends to test nuclear explosions in the future within their respective jurisdiction, to contact the Nuclear Disaster Response Organization (NDRO) to limit the extent of possible damage caused by the nuclear testing.
B.) That all member states testing nuclear explosions take all necessary precautions to limit the extent of impact of the testing, including but not limited to testing underground, closing off the area of testing after the testing has taken place, and testing nearby areas to ensure that any fallout from the explosion is spreading.

The Kingdom of Manticore Reborn believes this latest version of this proposal has merit.

[Philimbesi]

Point of order, is there already an NDRO, sorry for being a lazy ambassador and not looking it up, but if there isn't already your going to need to add a clause creating it.

Nigel S Youlkin
USP Ambassador to the WA


OOC: Can you update the OP as well, I almost ripped you for not changing anything

[Nullarni]

I just want to point our that you have written what appears to be several contradictions in your proposal.

First it mandates "That all member states cease the testing of nuclear weapons within their respective territories."

Then it mandates, "That all member states refrain from promoting or encouraging nuclear explosions or nuclear weapon testing in other nations."

And then it goes on to say that we actually can do testing, and that if we do we need to contact the commitee or whatever to let them know that we are doing it so that they can supervise it, yadda yadda.

Ok. The first one is obvious. You need to stop testing, but you can keep testing if you really want to. Well, I am going to give you the bennefit of doubt in this one and say that what you mean is, stop your current testing, and if you want you can start it back up but only under the given conditions. If this is the case, you need to make it much clearer.

The second one I didn't notice untill I read through it a second time. This says that you cannot do anything to promote or encourage others to do testing, but mandates that the testing nation must coordinate its tests with NDRO... a WA organization... that is funded by the wA general fund... which every WA nation pays into. Do you see it? Every WA nation, that is not allowed to "promote or encourage" the testing, is directly facilitating the testing!

Anyway, I figured I would just point that out for you.

[Manticore Reborn]

The second one I didn't notice untill I read through it a second time. This says that you cannot do anything to promote or encourage others to do testing, but mandates that the testing nation must coordinate its tests with NDRO... a WA organization... that is funded by the wA general fund... which every WA nation pays into. Do you see it? Every WA nation, that is not allowed to "promote or encourage" the testing, is directly facilitating the testing!

The Kingdom of Manticore Reborn wishes to applaud the noble ambassador from Nullarni's insight into this proposal and uncovering this glaring contradiction. However, my government wishes to be on record that a proposal to eliminate or drastically reduce the testing of nuclear weapons is desirable.

[Quadrimmina]

Our nation offers a counterproposal:

THIS WORLD ASSEMBLY,

UNDER THE IMPRESSION that nuclear arms are a threat to the safety of a global and galactic environment.

HOPING to eliminate this threat.

ALSO REALIZING that the World Assembly cannot eliminate this threat without rendering itself vulnerable to non-member nations.

HEREBY MANDATES that all WA nations fire all nuclear munitions at non-WA nations, to deplete their supply of weapons.

[Philimbesi]

Oh... see what you did there

[Joshuahood]

The second one I didn't notice untill I read through it a second time. This says that you cannot do anything to promote or encourage others to do testing, but mandates that the testing nation must coordinate its tests with NDRO... a WA organization... that is funded by the wA general fund... which every WA nation pays into. Do you see it? Every WA nation, that is not allowed to "promote or encourage" the testing, is directly facilitating the testing!

Nations pay into the WA General Fund, which funds the NDRO. Basically, nations are paying the NDRO, which is approving the testing. Is the problem that nations could manipulate the donation clause in the WA General Fund Resolution to threaten the NDRO into giving them permission to test nukes (for example: "Let me test my nukes or you won't receive any funding from me!")?