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[On Hold] Creation of Public Spaces

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[On Hold] Creation of Public Spaces

Postby Fachumonn » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:03 am

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The General Assembly.

Understanding the need for open public spaces, which allow citizens of every nation to participate in healthy recreational activities,

Believing in the many benefits that these public spaces can create, which include a place to get exercise and experience the outdoors,

Acknowledging that creating these public spaces will lead to the overall improvement of sapients lives and wellbeing, so hereby

Defines a public space as an area outside, open to the public, in which there is space to communally exercise, relax, and socialize with other sapients beings,

Enacts the following measures:

  1. Every nation must create a large amount of public spaces to provide for the population of this nation and allow them to do things within their rights. Citizens of this nation shall at the very least have public space in a reasonable distance.

  2. The amount of public spaces must be proportional to the total amount of population of beings in an area, thus creating more public spaces where there are more people.

  3. The amount of public spaces shall not dip below a large amount provided per the population of an area, and if so, the nation must construct more public spaces to meet their quota. In addition, public spaces must be large in size.

  4. These public spaces must have a certain level of infrastructural quality, and if the infrastructure of a public space ever dips below this level, it should be updated and maintained for future use. This does not apply to areas of wilderness.
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Postby Fachumonn » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:04 am

Reserved for this is a bad idea ok I'm sorry
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Postby Goobergunchia » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:28 am

We note that there is no actual requirement for the public space to be outdoors. Additionally, would clause 4 prevent wilderness areas and similar natural spaces from being considered as fulfilling the public space requirements in clauses 1 and 2?

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Postby Bisofeyr » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:48 am

"While we support the creation and maintenance of additional public spaces, this proposal fails to do the job effectively. While you mandate a 'certain' level of many different items, you don't specify which level that is. If the amount of public space, let's say, shall not dip below an unspecified amount, who's to say that this amount is 1? You need more specificity."

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Postby Fachumonn » Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:35 am

Criticism is fair cause I created this in 4.5 minutes.

To Bisofyer I understand your criticism but I don't want to use specific numbers/you know what I mean (hopefully), will look into it later.
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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:08 pm

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Postby Bananaistan » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:24 pm

Kenmoria wrote:... which the General Fund might alleviate...


"Absolutely not. The general fund is not a bottomless pit and there's already literally no end to charges on it being introduced recently by the IntFed crowd.

"The idea is positive but ultimately it's a one size fits nobody solution. In any case, urban planning at this level is best suited to sub-national authorities."
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Postby Fachumonn » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:49 pm

Bananaistan wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:... which the General Fund might alleviate...


"Absolutely not. The general fund is not a bottomless pit and there's already literally no end to charges on it being introduced recently by the IntFed crowd.

"The idea is positive but ultimately it's a one size fits nobody solution. In any case, urban planning at this level is best suited to sub-national authorities."

"We understand this and are considering relinquishing this proposal. Another option is to make the proposal more specific as well.
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Postby The Overmind » Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:20 pm

Ambivalent in principle, but that this actually doesn't require anything with any amount of specificity is a problem. But as Bananaistan points out, it is at least very difficult to create effective specificity in this domain. That will certainly be a challenge for you as the author, and a necessary one if you want this to succeed.

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Postby Comfed » Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:40 pm

I think this draft is too niche for the GA to consider.

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Postby Fachumonn » Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:06 pm

I did not know what I was getting myself into. Consider this on hold because it's hard to put in the time and effort to get this up to scratch when I have three other, more important drafts as well. I may revisit at a later date however.
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Postby Simone Republic » Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:46 pm

Goobergunchia wrote:We note that there is no actual requirement for the public space to be outdoors. Additionally, would clause 4 prevent wilderness areas and similar natural spaces from being considered as fulfilling the public space requirements in clauses 1 and 2?


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What about the moon? If Elon Musk manages to kick everyone to the moon to live, I am not sure if I really want any outdoor space. It's just a rock.

Comfed wrote:I think this draft is too niche for the GA to consider.


If it's broader like including national parks, UN Geoparks (that's UNESCO etc), maybe. But that's pretty much already in the Heritage WATCH thing.
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:54 am

"The definition of 'public space' is overly broad, such that it includes undeveloped wilderness difficult or unpleasant to access but in which people are physically capable of being alive and socializing. The requirements for the allocation of these spaces are also far too lax, both in terms of setting a suitable minimum quantity of community space (effectively zero in the current draft) and in terms of making that space compatible with the interests and sensibilities of the population."
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Postby Fachumonn » Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:56 am

Wallenburg wrote:"The definition of 'public space' is overly broad, such that it includes undeveloped wilderness difficult or unpleasant to access but in which people are physically capable of being alive and socializing. The requirements for the allocation of these spaces are also far too lax, both in terms of setting a suitable minimum quantity of community space (effectively zero in the current draft) and in terms of making that space compatible with the interests and sensibilities of the population."

Ambassador The People: "Ambassador, respectfully, our legislation has put this on hold due to these issues. Our legislation may decide to revisit this at a later date when we have more time, effort and commitment to fix these issues."
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