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Muffinses
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Postby Muffinses » Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:38 pm

I nominate Wallenburg
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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:33 am

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
Bananaistan wrote:
Thanks for the nomination. I do not wish to be considered at this time. Firstly, I would not be willing to work under what appears to be the current constraints imposed upon GenSec for disagreement with the administrators. Secondly, I genuinely hope that Wally will be reinstated. Thirdly, my reasons for retirement from November are still valid: I could not guarantee sufficient interest and activity for the foreseeable future. Perhaps that might change and at some future point I might wish to be considered again but not right now.


Not to piggyback too hard on others' writing, but this is all true for me as well. Thanks for tossing my name in the ring tho.

And likewise (apart from the date of resignation) for me, as well.
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Bhadeshistan
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Right-wing Utopia

Postby Bhadeshistan » Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:21 am

I nominate Ladratia and Ysengrim for the GA Secretariat position.

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Terra Magnifica Gloria
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Postby Terra Magnifica Gloria » Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:24 pm

I’ve never been that into GenSec, but because of the poor handling I’ve seen from moderators I hereby nominate Wallenberg
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Rusrunia
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Postby Rusrunia » Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:27 pm

I nominate Castille de Italia. This does not mean I do not support Wallenburg, but I believe I shall give someone else a chance as the rest here are for Wallenburg. Though if I could also nominate someone else, it'd be Wallenburg.
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Kinqueven
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Postby Kinqueven » Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:08 pm

So when will the new GenSec be announced?
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The Ice States
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Postby The Ice States » Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:11 pm

Kinqueven wrote:So when will the new GenSec be announced?

We are still deliberating on this! When we do decide on a candidate it will be announced.
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Velstrania
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Anarchy

Postby Velstrania » Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:18 am

The Ice States wrote:
Kinqueven wrote:So when will the new GenSec be announced?

We are still deliberating on this! When we do decide on a candidate it will be announced.

Is it too late for nominations?
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Second Sovereignty
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Postby Second Sovereignty » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:26 am

Velstrania wrote:[snip]

Enough with the backhanded joke nominations, please; you're just wasting everyone's time, and dragging things off topic.
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Magna-Scientia
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Postby Magna-Scientia » Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:59 am

Second Sovereignty wrote:
Velstrania wrote:[snip]

Enough with the backhanded joke nominations, please; you're just wasting everyone's time, and dragging things off topic.

I mean, the moderation here is definitely a joke. so I don't see why joke nominations shouldn't be allowed.

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The Ice States
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Postby The Ice States » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:15 pm

Personally (although I don't know about the rest of Gensec) I would prefer that nominations be serious only, please.
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The Ice States
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Postby The Ice States » Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:04 pm

As a note, we're still deliberating on this to find a suitable candidate both M/A and Gensec can accept; please bear with us during this process!
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The Overmind
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Postby The Overmind » Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:37 pm

The Ice States wrote:As a note, we're still deliberating on this to find a suitable candidate both M/A and Gensec can accept; please bear with us during this process!


So am I to understand that the entirety of Barfleur, Bisofeyr, Second Sovereignty, Tinhampton, Hulldom, Attempted Socialism, and Honeydewistania have all either declined the nomination or were found unsuitable?
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Cessarea
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Postby Cessarea » Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:51 pm

The Overmind wrote:
The Ice States wrote:As a note, we're still deliberating on this to find a suitable candidate both M/A and Gensec can accept; please bear with us during this process!


So am I to understand that the entirety of Barfleur, Bisofeyr, Second Sovereignty, Tinhampton, Hulldom, Attempted Socialism, and Honeydewistania have all either declined the nomination or were found unsuitable?

The booted Gensec member was found unsuitable, is there any surprise to the difficulty of this process? :p
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Omphalos
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Omphalos » Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:06 am

Cessarea wrote:
The Overmind wrote:
So am I to understand that the entirety of Barfleur, Bisofeyr, Second Sovereignty, Tinhampton, Hulldom, Attempted Socialism, and Honeydewistania have all either declined the nomination or were found unsuitable?

The booted Gensec member was found unsuitable, is there any surprise to the difficulty of this process? :p

Given the treatment of Wallenburg, one would assume the criterion that's giving them trouble at the moment is whether or not Sedgistan will quickly run them off. It'd be a pity to have to repeat this laborious process any time soon.
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Postby Neo-Hermitius » Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:09 am

I nominate Simone Republic
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Angeloid Astraea
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:41 am

I nominate Crazy girl.
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Castille de Italia
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Postby Castille de Italia » Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:10 pm

Angeloid Astraea wrote:I nominate Crazy girl.

It’s preferable that nominations are for someone who actually contributes to the GA.
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Yelda
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Yelda » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:28 pm

Castille de Italia wrote:
Angeloid Astraea wrote:I nominate Crazy girl.

It’s preferable that nominations are for someone who actually contributes to the GA.

Cool. I nominate Bhang Bhang Duc, in addition to all of my previous nominations.
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The Overmind
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Postby The Overmind » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:33 pm

Yelda wrote:
Castille de Italia wrote:It’s preferable that nominations are for someone who actually contributes to the GA.

Cool. I nominate Bhang Bhang Duc, in addition to all of my previous nominations.


Bhang Bhang Duc very rarely participates in the GA forumside. They are very active in the SC, and perhaps they are regionally active, but they basically never participate in drafting or legality threads here.
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Bisofeyr
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Postby Bisofeyr » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:49 pm

For what it's worth, I nominate The Overmind; I did a brief search in this thread and see no such nominations, but I would hope they were/have been still under consideration. It's admittedly likely far too late in this process to consider someone completely new but if it is not, and if they have not already been duly considered, I'd hope that this is enough for Overmind to get brought up in the conversation.

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Postby Second Sovereignty » Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:31 pm

The Overmind wrote:So am I to understand that the entirety of Barfleur, Bisofeyr, Second Sovereignty, Tinhampton, Hulldom, Attempted Socialism, and Honeydewistania have all either declined the nomination or were found unsuitable?


I didn't decline my nomination certainly, though I won't pretend to know what's going on with GenSec.
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Postby The Overmind » Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:36 pm

Bisofeyr wrote:For what it's worth, I nominate The Overmind; I did a brief search in this thread and see no such nominations, but I would hope they were/have been still under consideration. It's admittedly likely far too late in this process to consider someone completely new but if it is not, and if they have not already been duly considered, I'd hope that this is enough for Overmind to get brought up in the conversation.


The thought is very much appreciated.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:35 pm

This is more-or-less how the process works.

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# graphviz
# https://dreampuf.github.io/GraphvizOnline/
digraph G {
    graph [fontname = "helvetica" splines=polyline, nodesep=0.5];
    node [fontname = "helvetica" shape=record];
    edge [fontname = "helvetica"];
   
    Nominations -> {GenSec};
    GenSec -> Fail [label="Unqualified" ];
    GenSec -> Moderators [label="Qualified"];
    Moderators -> Fail [label="Rejected"];
    Moderators -> Nominee [label="Vetted"];
    Nominee -> Appointed [label="Accept"];
    Nominee -> Fail [label="Decline"];
    rank = min; Fail Appointed;
   
    Fail [label="Not appointed"];
}

We can't tell you which step each candidate is or was on. But we are still looking and discussing.
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Angeloid Astraea
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:23 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:This is more-or-less how the process works.

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# graphviz
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digraph G {
    graph [fontname = "helvetica" splines=polyline, nodesep=0.5];
    node [fontname = "helvetica" shape=record];
    edge [fontname = "helvetica"];
   
    Nominations -> {GenSec};
    GenSec -> Fail [label="Unqualified" ];
    GenSec -> Moderators [label="Qualified"];
    Moderators -> Fail [label="Rejected"];
    Moderators -> Nominee [label="Vetted"];
    Nominee -> Appointed [label="Accept"];
    Nominee -> Fail [label="Decline"];
    rank = min; Fail Appointed;
   
    Fail [label="Not appointed"];
}

We can't tell you which step each candidate is or was on. But we are still looking and discussing.

You don't need to tell us which step Wallenburg was on. There is no way "Send Wallenburg back" survived contact with the moderators in that chart. =P
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