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[Last call 2] - Coroners' Inquests and Proof of Death

Postby Simone Republic » Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:54 am

(Note: this was formerly titled "death certificates issuance" but I changed the name a couple of times as well, it was for awhile "Inquest and Proof of Death Procedures", "Dignified Handling of the Deceased", and "Coroners' Inquest and Proof of Death Procedures")

Motivation

This resolution proposal is motivated by:

  1. Easier handling of administrative aspects of deaths, such as coroners' inquests, proof of death, (and, eventually, well, the deceased's money) - especially from an international angle;
  2. Clause 3 makes it compulsory for death certificates to be issued by each WA state, to avoid cases where one WA state requires a death certificate to process probates or life insurance claims etc but the place where the deceased passed away does not issue one (this happens somewhat more frequently than it should in real life, internationally).
  3. This also handles issues regarding cause of death, in case of insurance claims and disputes over suicides, etc., especially on international deaths.
  4. Clause 5 accelerates the process in case it's quite clear that someone has died even if no body has been recovered (such as airplane crashes etc). This is especially the case if it's unlikely that the dead body will be recovered.
  5. Clause 7 involves dignified handling of the dead body during the process where not previously covered, such as during inquests and repatriation. (What happens to the dead body after it is released from inquest or repatriated is back to NS states' purview).

This is largely to sort out anyone who has had to handle cross-border death requests, which are usually pretty difficult nightmares, and is particularly unhelpful when family members are in distress. This resolution hopes to provide relief to those that are facing the pressures of the death of a family member. It also helps claims on life insurance.

Note that sections on wartime deaths and presumed deaths have been axed or shortened for space reasons.

Note that much of the diplomatic aspects is already covered by GA 703 clause 2 (repatriation of the dead body), and wartime pillaging by GA317.

Category: Regulation/Legal Reform (this is because although it briefly touches on handling of the dead body, most of the resolution is actually about death certificates, inquests, and diplomatic support where required).

Last call draft 2

The World Assembly (WA),

Anxious to ease the burden on those who left behind by the death of an individual (hereafter the “deceased”), especially when the death occurs in other states;

Believing that some coordination by the WA is necessary, in cases such as the need to have at least some proof of death for various purposes or to organise inquests;

The WA hereby enacts as follows:

  1. Definitions.
    1. "Authority" means an authority designated by a handling state to interpret and enforce this resolution.
    2. "Handling state" is the state where the individual died or was found dead.
    3. "PASA" means the Passports, Nationality and Refugees Administration.
  2. Authority.
    1. If the deceased died or was found dead on an aircraft or maritime vessel traveling under the flag of a WA state, the flag state is the handling state.
    2. PASA is the handling authority for deaths that occur in areas directly under the jurisdiction of the WA or a WA committee.
  3. Proof.
    1. An authority shall issue documentary proof (hereafter “proof”) of the death of the deceased reasonably promptly.
    2. "Proof" shall be available in both physical and electronic form.
    3. "Proof" serves as evidence of the death of the deceased for (i) all domestic purposes in any WA state and (ii) for all WA committees.
    4. "Proof" shall include pertinent details on the deceased required by the handling state, and any details required by PASA.
    5. If the cause of death has been determined according to the laws of the handling state, and is uncontested, "proof" shall also serve as confirmation of the cause of the death.
    6. If the cause of death is undetermined or contested, a "proof" without specifying cause of death may be issued first, and the procedures under clause (4) shall apply.
  4. Undetermined or contested cause of death.
    1. An authority shall hold an inquest if the cause of death is undetermined or contested according to its own laws. It must also hold an inquest if another WA state requests one.
    2. The inquest (and any associated costs) shall be paid for by the handling state. If the inquest was requested by another WA state, the requesting state shall pay instead.
    3. Inquests shall be held as soon as reasonably practicable by the handling state.
    4. Stakeholders from other WA states, such as diplomats and family members, can attend inquests unless barred by previously enacted WA resolutions, such as due to national security.
    5. If the handling state holds an inquest and requests assistance from another WA state, assistance must be provided to the best ability of that other WA state, subject to a full indemnity of costs.
    6. The determination of the inquest, subject to the judicial process of the handling state, shall be final, subject to sub-clause (7)(c).
    7. A "proof" may be amended if a cause of death has been determined under this clause.
  5. Catastrophe. The handling state shall make a good faith effort to accelerate issuing the proof of death, if it determines that
    1. an individual is almost certain to have perished from a catastrophe; and
    2. a recovery of conclusive evidence of death is deemed extremely unlikely.
  6. Fees.
    1. A "proof" is issued free of charge.
    2. A reasonable number of "certified true copies" of a "proof" shall be issued for free if they are needed for a legitimate reason, such as for probate in non-WA states. Such copies shall have the same validity as the original.
  7. Other inquests.
    1. The dead body shall be preserved with dignity and respect by the authority during any inquests and repatriation.
    2. If the deceased is a citizen or national of other WA state(s), the other WA state(s) may request that their own authority conducts a separate inquest, subject to the provisions herein.
    3. Collective estoppel does not apply if conclusions on issue of fact differ between WA states.
  8. Jurisdiction.
    1. This resolution does not govern deaths in states at war (declared or otherwise), subject to previously enacted WA resolutions.
    2. In case of disputes between WA states on this resolution, the Judiciary Committee shall adjudicate on a de novo basis.


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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:52 am

Death certificates should be issued free of charge (subject to reasonable use constraints). There was a minor social media fracas in 2019 when the UK Home Office decided that birth, death and marriage certificates would now be issued only on the payment of £5 to the order of themselves.
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Postby Simone Republic » Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:05 pm

Tinhampton wrote:Death certificates should be issued free of charge (subject to reasonable use constraints). There was a minor social media fracas in 2019 when the UK Home Office decided that birth, death and marriage certificates would now be issued only on the payment of £5 to the order of themselves.


Changed, on the assumption that it's going to just be a print out with a QR code or bar code or maybe RFID, so no one would unreasonably request 10,000 death certificates, so I didn't put in the reasonable use constraint bit. I don't really think "certified true copies" are that popular now.
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"What if the identity of the deceased individual is unknown?", asks a curious Junior Consular Secretary.

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Postby Simone Republic » Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:52 pm

Tigrisia wrote:"What if the identity of the deceased individual is unknown?", asks a curious Junior Consular Secretary.


It'd just follow the regular coroner process for handling unidentified bodies whether it's a separate coroner's office, or a police department, or whatever process is in that state. I can add a line to the effect that "this resolution does not govern the process for managing unidentified bodies.
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Postby Tigrisia » Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:07 am

The delegation of Tigrisia has yet another question: What about stillbirths? It has been shown that, especially for quite developed stillbirths that a recognition of the personhood of the stillbirth makes it easier for the would-be parents to cope with the Trauma. Therefore, we propose to add a clause that states that also for stillbirths, death certificates shall be issued.

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Postby Tigrisia » Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:22 am

Simone Republic wrote:
Tigrisia wrote:"What if the identity of the deceased individual is unknown?", asks a curious Junior Consular Secretary.


It'd just follow the regular coroner process for handling unidentified bodies whether it's a separate coroner's office, or a police department, or whatever process is in that state. I can add a line to the effect that "this resolution does not govern the process for managing unidentified bodies.


"We should have some separate certificate for unidentified deceased individuals. But I believe that we need a different resolution for that. So such a sentence might be enough for the moment. Then, we don't come in conflict later on."

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Postby Simone Republic » Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:54 am

Tigrisia wrote:The delegation of Tigrisia has yet another question: What about stillbirths? It has been shown that, especially for quite developed stillbirths that a recognition of the personhood of the stillbirth makes it easier for the would-be parents to cope with the Trauma. Therefore, we propose to add a clause that states that also for stillbirths, death certificates shall be issued.


I think that would be illegal. Personhood strictly begins at birth under GA#499 clause 8, so stillbirth cannot be recognised as personhood.
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Simone Republic wrote:I think that would be illegal. Personhood strictly begins at birth under GA#499 clause 8, so stillbirth cannot be recognised as personhood.


With "Personhood" we do not mean the legal term but more a form of moral recognition. We should have formulated it better.
Also, those certificates make the statistics of stillbirths much easier and can be used to optimize healthcare for pregnant people.
We believe that a properly formulated clause would not contradict GAA #499, clause 8. A simple clause like "Death certificates shall also be issued for stillbirths. The exact definition of stillbirth lies in the hand of the authority." should be fine, at least from our standpoint.

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Postby Simone Republic » Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:24 am

Tigrisia wrote:We believe that a properly formulated clause would not contradict GAA #499, clause 8. A simple clause like "Death certificates shall also be issued for stillbirths. The exact definition of stillbirth lies in the hand of the authority." should be fine, at least from our standpoint.


I see an international angle for regulating death certificates (so that probates can be sorted out easily, especially for cross-border assets), stillbirth seems too much of a domestic matter for the WA.
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Aetherlina wrote:"Hmm well... Let's see... I don't see anything relating to AI. I know some nations have AI Personhood, so I believe they should be accounted for too in the case of demise."
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Do AIs die though? I can broaden the exclusion to exclude AIs, because I don't think having a hard drive failure really counts as "death".
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Postby Simone Republic » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:31 pm

Amended so that "[a] death certificate (or a subsequent revision) is issued free of charge to anyone who requests it. A reasonable number of "certified true copies" of a death certificate shall be issued free of charge if such copies are required for domestic purposes under domestic laws, at the discretion of the authority."

This is purely in case a lot of originals are required for probate purposes due to local laws, as per Tin above.
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Postby Simone Republic » Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:01 am

The section on "perceived death" has been removed and replaced with a section on handling the dead body instead.

This was originally "death certificates issuance" but the changes from draft 1 to draft 2 were massive and I have omitted draft 1.
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Does 7b apply regardless of the dead person's consent? If it includes cannibalism, that would contradict GA #690. This would be addressed fine by requiring consent; however, even so, I'm not convinced we should require or permit practices harmful to the environment or public health just because they're traditional. I think it would be best to remove that clause.
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The Ice States wrote:Does 7b apply regardless of the dead person's consent? If it includes cannibalism, that would contradict GA #690. This would be addressed fine by requiring consent; however, even so, I'm not convinced we should require or permit practices harmful to the environment or public health just because they're traditional. I think it would be best to remove that clause.


I've axed the bit. Also because TCB has complained non-stop about my canibalism jokes. It now refers to dignity during the inquest process.
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What happens if:
1.The cause of death cannot be determined at all (either due to quarantine laws preventing inquests, or if a coroners inquest cannot find a precise cause of death, for example because the body was burnt after death)
2.The place of death is not known, and may be in various member states
2b.The place of death is known not to be the member state the body was found in, but two different member states may be the state the deceased actually died in


The dead body shall be treated with dignity and respect by the handling state (or PASA), including during inquests and repatriation (if any), and in accordance with the last wishes of the deceased, if known.

The wishes of the deceases should be able to be disregarded if they would obstruct finding the cause of death and/or the person responsible for that death(if applicable) or any crime related to that body.

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Postby Simone Republic » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:00 pm

Also I dropped the bit on war deaths as the clarifications needed got a bit long.

First Nightmare wrote:What happens if:
1.The cause of death cannot be determined at all (either due to quarantine laws preventing inquests, or if a coroners inquest cannot find a precise cause of death, for example because the body was burnt after death)


It only says "may decide to". The handling state doesn't have to. But if they do, then foreigners can attend (except for national security and a couple of opt-outs) must be able to attend and it must be subject to due process etc.

(3)(e) is aimed at matters such as insurance, since some insurance policies would pay out for accidental death (such as a skiing accident) but not for a heart attack during a ski trip (since that might be covered by a regular health policy). If the cause of death is indeterminate then that's not the WA's problem as different countries treat that differently.

First Nightmare wrote:What happens if:
2.The place of death is not known, and may be in various member states
2b.The place of death is known not to be the member state the body was found in, but two different member states may be the state the deceased actually died in


Clause 9, let the Judiciary Committee settle the dispute. Note that if the inquest is for a dead foreigner that's already indirectly covered in the sense that separate inquests can be held.

I added the following to make it clearer:

"Handling state" is the state where the individual died, subject to clause (9).


The wishes of the deceases should be able to be disregarded if they would obstruct finding the cause of death and/or the person responsible for that death(if applicable) or any crime related to that body.


I changed it to "accommodating the last wishes of the deceased, if possible and if known".
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Some minor wording changes. I have not re-marked the draft as Draft 3.
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Postby Simone Republic » Tue May 07, 2024 1:04 am

Some further minor changes in wording.

I added a sentence to address Old Hope's concerns:
"Documentary proof of death does not preclude an undetermined cause of death."
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Simone Republic wrote:snip


The delegation of the Federal Republic of Tigrisia has several concerns.

First and foremost, what happens with individuals died in international areas? Examples for this are "refugee vessels" without a flag state or international areas, such as international organizations that are not the WA.

Secondly, especially it comes to undocumented cases, for example migrants that died on their way to safety, it can take a long time until the processes that shall regulated by this resolution are completed. Therefore, we recommend to mandate that all processes should be as swift as possible.


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Postby Simone Republic » Tue May 07, 2024 7:37 am

Added Draft 3.

Draft 2

The World Assembly (WA),

Anxious to ease the burden on those who had lost their loved ones, especially when the death of a sapient individual (the “deceased”) occurs in WA states other than the regular residence of the deceased;

Believing that some coordination by the WA is necessary, in cases such as the need to have at least documentary proof of death for various purposes or to organise inquests;

The WA hereby enacts as follows:

  1. Definitions.
    1. "Death" means the end of a life cycle for the deceased. This excludes lifeforms such as artificial intelligence or those that do not suffer from death.
    2. "JC" means the WA Judiciary Committee.
    3. "PASA" means the Passports, Nationality and Refugees Administration.
  2. Handling state.
    1. "Handling state" is the state where the individual died, subject to clause (9).
    2. The handling state administers the duties in in clauses (3) to (7).
    3. If the individual died away on a transport mechanism traveling under the flag of a WA state, the flag state is the handling state.
    4. For deaths at WA Headquarters, PASA is handling the duties in clauses (3) to (7) on behalf of the WA.
  3. Proof of death.
    1. The handling state is required to issue documentary proof in physical and/or electronic form (“proof”) of the death of the deceased, subject to due process.
    2. The cause of death shall be verified according to local laws, subject to clause (4).
    3. The handling state shall determine the burden of proof required to determine a cause of death, such as a medical examination, or if a full inquest is required.
    4. Such proof shall contain pertinent information required by PASA and any other information specified by the handling state.
    5. Such proof issued by a handling state shall be final and determinative for all domestic matters, such as probates, in all WA states and for all WA organs.
  4. Coroner’s inquest.
    1. A handling state may decide to hold an inquest into the circumstances of the death of the deceased at its discretion.
    2. Documentary proof of death does not preclude an undetermined cause of death.
    3. Stakeholders from other WA states, such as diplomats and family members, have a right to attend inquests unless barred by extant WA resolutions, such as due to national security.
    4. Inquests shall be subject to due process of law. If a WA state holds an inquest and requests assistance from another WA state, such assistance shall be rendered to the best ability of that other WA state.
    5. The inquest shall be paid for by the handling state.
  5. Catastrophic perils.
    1. The handling state (or PASA) shall consider accelerating the granting of proof of death, if (i) they determine that an individual are extremely likely to have perished from catastrophic perils, and (ii) they determine the recovery of the dead body (or body parts) to be very unlikely.
    2. Such acceleration shall be subject to due process.
  6. Fees.
    1. A proof of death is issued free of charge to anyone who requests it.
    2. A reasonable number of "certified true copies" of a proof of death shall be issued for free if they are needed for a legitimate reason, such as for probate in non-WA states. Such copies shall have equal validity with the original.
  7. Handling of the body.
    1. The dead body shall be treated with dignity and respect by the handling state (or PASA), including during inquests and repatriation (if any), and accommodating the last wishes of the deceased, if possible and if known.
    2. If the deceased is a citizen or national of another WA state (or states), the other WA state(s) may request repatriation in accordance with the wishes of the deceased, subject to a full indemnity of costs.
    3. The other WA state(s) may also carry out a separate inquest if it desires. Such other inquest(s) shall also be subject to the provisions of clause (4).
    4. The handling of the dead body after repatriation is subject to the laws of the WA state where the body has been repatriated.
  8. Delegation to PASA.
    1. A WA state may request PASA to act on its behalf.
    2. PASA will only accept such a request if it determines that a WA state lacks a functioning government, or lacks the resources necessary to conduct the activities described herein. PASA may also step-in to act as an authority on behalf of a WA state if it makes the aforesaid determination.
  9. Jurisdiction. In case of disputes between WA states (or between WA states and PASA) over this resolution, such as the location of death or different findings as to cause of death, JC shall have jurisdiction.




Tigrisia wrote:First and foremost, what happens with individuals died in international areas? Examples for this are "refugee vessels" without a flag state or international areas, such as international organizations that are not the WA.


There is nothing we can do about that unless the individuals died in somewhere with WA jurisdiction. International organisations outside of the purview of the WA are... outside of the purview of the WA. We can't write regulations on that.

GA703 clause (3)(c)(i) already covers regular cases of repatriation.

Tigrisia wrote:Secondly, especially it comes to undocumented cases, for example migrants that died on their way to safety, it can take a long time until the processes that shall regulated by this resolution are completed. Therefore, we recommend to mandate that all processes should be as swift as possible.


I added the word "promptly" to clause 3(a) and "as soon as reasonably practicable" to the inquest. It is subject to due process so may not be as far as possible.
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Simone Republic wrote:
The Ice States wrote:Does 7b apply regardless of the dead person's consent? If it includes cannibalism, that would contradict GA #690. This would be addressed fine by requiring consent; however, even so, I'm not convinced we should require or permit practices harmful to the environment or public health just because they're traditional. I think it would be best to remove that clause.


I've axed the bit. Also because TCB has complained non-stop about my canibalism jokes. It now refers to dignity during the inquest process.

Unless I'm misreading it this still seems to require last wishes to always be granted if possible; this would be best handled by separate legislation on that topic.
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The Ice States wrote:
Simone Republic wrote:
I've axed the bit. Also because TCB has complained non-stop about my canibalism jokes. It now refers to dignity during the inquest process.

Unless I'm misreading it this still seems to require last wishes to always be granted if possible; this would be best handled by separate legislation on that topic.



Well, the consumption of the dead body would really have to come after the inquest, right?
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Postby Tigrisia » Fri May 10, 2024 9:15 am

Simone Republic wrote:There is nothing we can do about that unless the individuals died in somewhere with WA jurisdiction. International organisations outside of the purview of the WA are... outside of the purview of the WA. We can't write regulations on that.


But what about cases where the body is in said WA member state but the person died elsewhere? Think of a refugee vessel where people died in international waters but that is washed ashore. Who is responsible for the death certificate? Or think of someone who is shot in the head on international ground while sitting on a window (hence dying on international grounds) but is falling out of the window, so their corpse lays on national grounds? Or who is responsible if someone dies on the border of two nations (OOC: Think of the city baale for example, there, this may be actually possible).


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