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Postby The Ice States » Thu Jun 15, 2023 3:10 pm

For the (hopefully no longer hypothetical) event that End Blood Sports fails or gets repealed.

Whereas forced blood sports are, by their nature, inherently cruel both towards both sapients and non-sapients taking part, and should thus only occur with the consent of participants; and

Whereas member nations should also prevent trade of blood sport participants to other nations, as such trade merely facilitates cruelty in other jurisdicitions which this body lacks the authority to directly prohibit blood sports in;

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  1. The following provisions must be applied in interpretation of this resolution.

    1. A "forced blood sport" is an event intended to entertain a person or group thereof where

      1. a participant intends or is likely to inflict death or severe injury on any sapient or non-sapient being (who, for the purposes of this resolution, shall also be considered a participant in the event); and

      2. any of the participants are not sapients who have provided consent to the event.
      Hunting for sapient consumption shall not be considered a forced blood sport for the purpose of this resolution.

    2. "Consent" refers to free and informed consent from a person, which that person may freely withdraw at any time. Consent shall be considered invalid should that person be mentally incompetent or of such age as to be unable to give informed consent.
  2. No forced blood sport may take place within World Assembly jurisdiction. Nor may any person be held in captivity without their consent for the purpose of any forced blood sport, regardless of when such captivity commenced.

  3. No person or non-sapient animal may be transported from, into, or within a member nation for the purpose of their participation in any forced blood sport. Nor may any entity under World Assembly jurisdiction sell or purchase a person or non-sapient animal for the purpose of that person or animal's participation in a forced blood sport. Both provisions of this Section may only be waived upon the positive consent of that person.

  4. No entity under World Assembly jurisdiction may arrange or solicit any transport violating Section 3. Nor may such an entity wilfully supply a person or non-sapient animal for the purpose of transport of the nature prohibited by Section 3.

  5. Any non-sapient animal held in captivity for the purpose of a blood sport must be:

    1. kept in conditions where their basic needs are fulfilled before any of Sections 5b-5d are triggered; and either

    2. released as soon as possible in a manner that allows for the animal to live in their natural environment independently and without harming it;

    3. released as soon as possible into an enclosed environment where the animal will be treated with the appropriate dignity, but only until invoking Section 5b becomes possible; or

    4. euthanised in a manner which causes minimal pain and suffering to the animal, but only as a last resort if following Sections 5b or 5c is impossible within the animal's lifetime.


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Postby The Ice States » Thu Jun 15, 2023 3:12 pm

Whereas forced blood sports are, by their nature, inherently cruel both upon both sapients and non-sapients taking part, and should thus only occur with the consent of participants; and

Whereas member nations should also prevent trade of blood sport participants to other nations, as such trade merely facilitates cruelty in other jurisdicitions which this body lacks the authority to directly prohibit blood sports in;

The World Assembly enacts as follows, subject to relevant past World Assembly law still in force.

  1. The following provisions must be applied in interpretation of this resolution.

    1. A "forced blood sport" is any event which is intended or likely to result in death or severe injury for a participant, whether sapient or non-sapient; where

      1. the event occurs for the purpose of entertaining a person or group thereof, or punishing a participant; and

      2. any of the participants is not a sapient who has provided consent to said forced blood sport.
    2. "Consent" refers to free and informed consent from a person. Consent shall be considered invalid should that person be mentally incompetent or of such age as to be unable to give informed consent.
  2. No forced blood sport may take place under World Assembly jurisdiction. Nor may any person be held in captivity without their consent for the purpose of any forced blood sport, regardless of when such captivity commenced.

  3. No person or non-sapient animal may be transported from, into, or within a member nation for the purpose of their participation in any forced blood sport. Nor may any entity under World Assembly jurisdiction sell or purchase a person or non-sapient animal for the purpose of that person or animal's participation in a forced blood sport.

  4. No entity under World Assembly jurisdiction may arrange or solicit any transport violating Section 3. Nor may such an entity wilfully supply a person or non-sapient animal for the purpose of transport of the nature prohibited by Section 3.

  5. Any non-sapient animal held in captivity for the purpose of a blood sport must be:

    1. kept in conditions where their basic needs are fulfilled before any of Sections 5b-5d are triggered; and either

    2. released as soon as possible in a manner that allows for the animal to live in their natural environment independently and without harming it;

    3. released as soon as possible into an enclosed environment where the animal will be treated with the appropriate dignity, but only until invoking Section 5b becomes possible; or

    4. euthanised in a manner which causes minimal pain and suffering to the animal, but only as a last resort if following Sections 5b or 5c is impossible within the animal's lifetime.

Whereas forced blood sports are, by their nature, inherently cruel both upon both sapients and non-sapients taking part, and should thus only occur with the consent of participants;

Whereas member nations should prevent trade of blood sport participants to other nations, as such trade merely facilitates cruelty in other jurisdicitions which this body lacks the authority to directly prohibit blood sports in; and

Whereas the World Assembly has already prohibited forced blood sports from taking place within member nations, such that there is already a stance against such cruelty which ought to be logically extended to trade of beings for the purposes of blood sports;

The World Assembly enacts as follows.

  1. "Blood sport" is to be interpreted for the purposes of this resolution as referring to any competitive event or practice intended to result in death or severe injury for a participant, whether sapient or non-sapient;

  2. No person may be transported from or within a member nation for the purpose of their participation in any blood sport, except where that person has given their full, uncoerced consent both to participate in that blood sport and to such transport. Nor may any non-sapient animal be transported from or within a member nation for the purpose of their participation in any blood sport. Consent shall be considered invalid for the purpose of this mandate should the person be mentally incompetent or of such age as to be unable to give informed consent.

  3. No entity under World Assembly jurisdiction may arrange or solicit any transport violating Section 2. Nor may such an entity wilfully supply a person or non-sapient animal for the purpose of such transport, should that entity be aware the transport is of the nature prohibited by Section 2.

  4. Previous World Assembly resolutions shall take precedence over this one in the case of contradiction. The World Assembly shall not enact any resolution whose mandates would violate this resolution upon some date or event, including repeal of this resolution.

Whereas forced blood sports are, by their nature, inherently cruel both upon both sapients and non-sapients taking part, and should thus only occur with the consent of participants;

Whereas member nations should prevent trade of blood sport participants to other nations, as such trade merely facilitates cruelty in other jurisdicitions which this body lacks the authority to directly prohibit blood sports in; and

Whereas the World Assembly has already prohibited forced blood sports from taking place within member nations, such that there is already a stance against such cruelty which ought to be logically extended to trade of beings for the purposes of blood sports;

The World Assembly enacts as follows.

  1. "Blood sport" is to be interpreted for the purposes of this resolution as referring to any competitive event intended to result in death or severe injury for a participant, whether sapient or non-sapient.

  2. No person or non-sapient animal may be transported from or within a member nation for the purpose of their participation in any blood sport. Nor may any entity under World Assembly jurisdiction sell or purchase a person or non-sapient animal for the purpose of that person or animal's participation in a blood sport.
    1. This resolution shall not prohibit transport, sale, or purchase of a person for the purpose of that person's participation in a blood sport, where that person has given their full, uncoerced consent both to such transport, sale or purchase and to participating in that blood sport.

    2. Consent from a person shall be considered invalid for the purpose of this resolution should that person be mentally incompetent or of such age as to be unable to give informed consent.
  3. No entity under World Assembly jurisdiction may arrange or solicit any transport violating Section 2. Nor may such an entity wilfully supply a person or non-sapient animal for the purpose of such transport, should that entity be aware the transport is of the nature prohibited by Section 2.

  4. Previous World Assembly resolutions shall take precedence over this one in the case of contradiction. The World Assembly shall not enact any resolution whose mandates would violate this resolution upon some date or event, including repeal of this resolution.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:32 pm

Could this not be incorporated under the replacement for the ban as a whole?
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Postby The Ice States » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:51 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:Could this not be incorporated under the replacement for the ban as a whole?

I made this clear to Tinhampton by DM -- this will be pursued regardless of what happens to the repeal or replacement of your resolution.

Edit: I just clarified this to Tinhampton -- I am fine with her copying content from my draft as long as I am a co-author; I am also fine with her adding the effect of these mandates to her replacement. However I will still keep this draft up in case the repeal fails.
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:40 pm

The Ice States wrote:"Blood sport" is to be interpreted for the purposes of this resolution as referring to any competitive event intended to result in death or severe injury for a participant, whether sapient or non-sapient.

Neville: 'Do most blood sports actually fit this definition? For instance, can it be said that a boxing bout is actually intended to result in the death or severe injury for one of the boxers?'
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Postby The Ice States » Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:48 pm

States of Glory WA Office wrote:
The Ice States wrote:"Blood sport" is to be interpreted for the purposes of this resolution as referring to any competitive event intended to result in death or severe injury for a participant, whether sapient or non-sapient.

Neville: 'Do most blood sports actually fit this definition? For instance, can it be said that a boxing bout is actually intended to result in the death or severe injury for one of the boxers?'

"Most blood sports, such as bullfighting or gladiation, absolutely meet this definition. Nonetheless, we have expanded the definition to include blood sports which are 'likely' to result in death or severe injury."

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Postby Simone Republic » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 am

As long as you are not considering hunting sapient bears, I am fine with all the blood sport resolutions.

Are wolves supposed to be sapient?
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Postby The Ice States » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:42 pm

Simone Republic wrote:As long as you are not considering hunting sapient bears, I am fine with all the blood sport resolutions.

Are wolves supposed to be sapient?

I think this question rather answers itself. I have explicitly stated in the past that sapient wolves are not canonical in the Ice States.
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:27 pm

Neville: 'Is there a specific reason why the provisions of this proposal could not be expanded to all sports?'
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Postby The Ice States » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:08 pm

States of Glory WA Office wrote:Neville: 'Is there a specific reason why the provisions of this proposal could not be expanded to all sports?'

"Non-blood sports involving animals are not even banned in member nations, so trade for such purposes need not be banned."

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Postby Araraukar » Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:59 am

The Ice States wrote:
States of Glory WA Office wrote:Neville: 'Do most blood sports actually fit this definition? For instance, can it be said that a boxing bout is actually intended to result in the death or severe injury for one of the boxers?'

"Most blood sports, such as bullfighting or gladiation, absolutely meet this definition. Nonetheless, we have expanded the definition to include blood sports which are 'likely' to result in death or severe injury."

OOC: I get the ban on transporting bulls to be killed on an arena, but are you also trying to impose travel restrictions on volunteering (heck, they usually pay to partake) human cage fighters?
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Postby The Ice States » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:51 pm

Please read the draft (especially Section 2a) then reflect on the above.
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:16 pm

The Ice States wrote:
States of Glory WA Office wrote:Neville: 'Is there a specific reason why the provisions of this proposal could not be expanded to all sports?'

"Non-blood sports involving animals are not even banned in member nations, so trade for such purposes need not be banned."

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Postby The Ice States » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:35 pm

States of Glory WA Office wrote:
The Ice States wrote:"Non-blood sports involving animals are not even banned in member nations, so trade for such purposes need not be banned."

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Neville: 'I was thinking more along the lines of this proposal prohibiting forcing someone to participate in boxing against their will but not, say, football.'

"Why would a person be forced to participate in football against their will without it falling under GA #23? Many nations would force someone to, say, gladiate against their will as punishment."

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Postby The Ice States » Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:43 am

While I still hope this draft does not become necessary (and support Tinhampton's quorate repeal), I am bumping for any comments.
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:53 pm

The Ice States wrote:Co-author: Tinhampton (subject to their free and informed consent).

I have read this proposal in full and compared it with the provisions of End Blood Sports, and grant my blessing for Ice to list me as a co-author.

Should he see fit, he is therefore also welcome to copy verbatim anything I have written in End Blood Sports (as opposed to using the paraphrases contained in the current draft).

Also: Why does Article 5a refer to the nonexistent "Sections 6b-6d" and Article 4 to a "Section 5" that makes no restrictions on transport?
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Postby The Ice States » Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:56 pm

Tinhampton wrote:Also: Why does Article 5a refer to the nonexistent "Sections 6b-6d" and Article 4 to a "Section 5" that makes no restrictions on transport?

All of this is fixed.
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Postby Simone Republic » Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:01 pm

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An evil bear (not me) from Simone Republic is now mauling wolves and rabbits and foxes alive.

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Still doesn't prevent a Squid Game scenario.
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Simone Republic wrote:Still doesn't prevent a Squid Game scenario.

Ooc: Can you please state a specific scenario which this would not prevent and is not just RP wank?
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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:53 pm

Why is 'or as punishment' included? That changes the definition to include all kinds of punishments for animals and people that will cause severe injury or death. That's way beyond the scope of banning blood sports.
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Postby The Ice States » Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:11 am

Honeydewistania wrote:Why is 'or as punishment' included? That changes the definition to include all kinds of punishments for animals and people that will cause severe injury or death. That's way beyond the scope of banning blood sports.

Thanks for the comment. That provision exists to address the concern that eg forcing someone to gladiate as punishment is not included.[1]. I am happy to remove that provision.

The title has also been updated on Tinhampton's suggestion.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:19 am

The Ice States wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Why is 'or as punishment' included? That changes the definition to include all kinds of punishments for animals and people that will cause severe injury or death. That's way beyond the scope of banning blood sports.

Thanks for the comment. That provision exists to address the concern that eg forcing someone to gladiate as punishment is not included.[1]. I am happy to remove that provision.

The title has also been updated on Tinhampton's suggestion.


I don't think this fix solves that concern, given that their main argument was about the word 'competitive' rather than explicitly not including punishment. A more suitable definition would just be limited to doing things for entertainment, because that's what blood sports actually are.
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Postby The Ice States » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:10 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:
The Ice States wrote:Thanks for the comment. That provision exists to address the concern that eg forcing someone to gladiate as punishment is not included.[1]. I am happy to remove that provision.

The title has also been updated on Tinhampton's suggestion.


I don't think this fix solves that concern, given that their main argument was about the word 'competitive' rather than explicitly not including punishment. A more suitable definition would just be limited to doing things for entertainment, because that's what blood sports actually are.

1a.i already makes entertainment being a purpose a requirement for something to be a blood sport -- prior entertainment or punishment being a purpose was sufficient.
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Postby Simone Republic » Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:03 pm

The Ice States wrote:
Simone Republic wrote:Still doesn't prevent a Squid Game scenario.

Ooc: Can you please state a specific scenario which this would not prevent and is not just RP wank?


I mean the Squid Game stuff we talked about on Discord.
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Postby The Ice States » Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:59 pm

Simone Republic wrote:
The Ice States wrote:Ooc: Can you please state a specific scenario which this would not prevent and is not just RP wank?


I mean the Squid Game stuff we talked about on Discord.

Yes. I am yet to see a compelling argument that "Squid Game" is an issue which does not boil down to RP wank.
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