[Passed] World Assembly Official Merchandise

[Simone Republic]

*bump*

Bumped by the official Bumper of Simone Republic (now available in a two for one offer!!)

[Simone Republic]

Bump again.

[Capitalist Arstotzka]

Full support from me as well

[Mr Matzerati]

Don't think this one will make it, since its not really a law. More of an idea. I see corralations with the 'world assembly website act. wich was also discarded when at vote

[Simone Republic]

Don't think this one will make it, since its not really a law. More of an idea. I see corralations with the 'world assembly website act. wich was also discarded when at vote

"World Assembly Website Act" was defeated 11,017 votes to 4,237 - it wasn't discarded. GAR#78 (Universal Library Coalition) and GAR#442 (Circulation Of World Assembly Law) duplication were cited as grounds on the TNP IFV.

I do concede that this is not a particularly important matter though. Selling mugs in gift shops or online is not going to raise nearly enough dough to buy more humanitarian aid. But I guess every little helps.

[Simone Republic]

Final call.

[Wallenburg]

"Lo, the commodities so were brought into the state, and the state rendered as a commodity. No, this office confirms that the World Assembly has no intellectual property rights, and that all symbols, icons, and effigies associated with this assembly belong to the people subject to its jurisdiction. Even so, such consumer products, however vapid and devoid of social value, promote industry and thus national production, which would promote World Assembly funds through the mandatory donation scheme regardless of the manner in which these products are coordinated."

[Simone Republic]

This lost quorum when the quorum count went up from 62 to 64. Will try to resubmit later.

[Maricela Gutierrez]

"Lo, the commodities so were brought into the state, and the state rendered as a commodity. No, this office confirms that the World Assembly has no intellectual property rights, and that all symbols, icons, and effigies associated with this assembly belong to the people subject to its jurisdiction. Even so, such consumer products, however vapid and devoid of social value, promote industry and thus national production, which would promote World Assembly funds through the mandatory donation scheme regardless of the manner in which these products are coordinated."

Ms. Gutierrez: "Er... in plain language, Ms. Trevanyika?"

Ms. Gutierrez: "I suppose I can hazard a guess: you think the resolution is silly but tolerable?"

[Sorcery]

"an excellent idea! Sorcery will definitely be voting for this proposal!"
-Leonidas Elvar, sorcerian WA minister

[Simone Republic]

“Seems that the bear has addressed my two issues that I stated previously. Also, I could use this merchandise to show the world how powerful the Clevesian Empire is…you know what, bear person, you have my full support.”

Lady Charlotte Schafer, Clevesian WA Minister

OOC: the italics in quotes are spoken in her mind

"an excellent idea! Sorcery will definitely be voting for this proposal!"
-Leonidas Elvar, sorcerian WA minister

This is going to be a full-time meme generator, isn't it?

[Caymarnia]

Since this matter appears to have been brought to vote, I just have to ask:

What kind of bourgeois capitalist nonsense is this?

ABSOLUTELY AGAINST.

[Red Shift Remnants]

Is it not enough for the bourgeoisie to exploit the proletariats of the world individually, that they must now co-opt the WA itself? I beseech the World Assembly to ensure that this disgrace is not passed.

[Kenmoria]

“The People’s Republic of Kenmoria is a nation that is proud of its communist ideals, culture, and population. Capitalism is an economic system which is doomed to eventual collapse, whether from ecological, societal, or ideological instability.” Ambassador Fortier takes a deep breath, peering at his notes once more. “Nonetheless, I will be voting in favour of this proposal. The General Assembly is one of the only bodies capable of universally promoting the rights of the proletariat, and any proposal that aids this Assembly’s operations is therefore one that this delegation will support.”

[Southern Miska]

"The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Southern Miska condemns the attempt to commercialise an international organisation that has the sole purpose of fostering international cooperation and advancement. The World Assembly is not a commercial entity."

[Refuge Isle]

I saw this was passing when I went to bed last night.

Thank god that's no longer the case.

[Orifna]

Haha funny world assembly shirt to show my pride in world peace

FOR because why not

[Kiraina]

This proposal makes a fool out of the WA. Are we nothing but a soulless capitalist megacorporation, exploiting the workers to make a cheap buck? If you voted for this, our entire nation laughs at your foolishness.

[Orifna]

It allows people to show their pride and proudness to the World Assembly to award everything they’ve done to keep the world at peace.

This proposal makes a fool out of the WA. Are we nothing but a soulless capitalist megacorporation, exploiting the workers to make a cheap buck? If you voted for this, our entire nation laughs at your foolishness.

[Settentrionalia]

The WATCH seems a legitimate service that could really help the community, I dislike the fact that so many nations are against just because they are communist and dislike mega corporations, fine, I get it but they have promised to be completely eco friendly, they also said they said they respect the culture and norms of every individual state in which the merchandise would be sold, and lastly they said they would fund humanitarian missions with their earnings.

If WATCH is not capable to fulfill its promises we can still make a repeal resolution and forget about it, so we should atleast give them a chance

[Pantso]

The WATCH seems a legitimate service that could really help the community, I dislike the fact that so many nations are against just because they are communist and dislike mega corporations, fine, I get it but they have promised to be completely eco friendly, they also said they said they respect the culture and norms of every individual state in which the merchandise would be sold, and lastly they said they would fund humanitarian missions with their earnings.

If WATCH is not capable to fulfill its promises we can still make a repeal resolution and forget about it, so we should atleast give them a chance

It's a multi-level marketing scheme that "encourages" member nations to purchase licensed products as well as promote the same to non-members. Since it ties WA financing into manufacturing and IP law, it gives the WA an incentive to show favor to policies, nations, and regions that will protect those interests. If it were *just* the WA selling its own stuff it *might* be acceptable. As is, it's opening the door for corruption and it will *not* be easy to close.

[East Transnistria]

General Secretary Sergei clears his throat "Clearly yet another example of 'Capitalism Breeding Innovation.' I see that the perversion of Capitalism knows no bounds of respect whatsoever, disrespecting even the sanctity of the World Assembly. Its pretty, how should I be more blunt - ah yes - Stupid that a proposition like this would even be passed by the World Assembly. I remember a few days ago in celebration of the upcoming sacred holiday of Victory Day, the Socialist Republic of East Transnistria insisted in passing a resolution to condemn Fascism across the world. An ideology that comes from Capitalism and has killed millions of people across the world and has caused a terrible great World War that consumed the planet. What was the response of the international community? Silence. Deafening silence. Clearly its quite obvious what the priorities of the people in this World Assembly really is."

The General Secretary folds his arms while the Diplomat of East Transnistria whispers something next to his ear. Some members of the East Transnistrian delegation ruffle their papers in dissatisfaction.

[Ceannas]

Two things.....

First ----> Clarification. Is this 100% an IC campaign proposal for a 100% IC business venture? Or is it ALSO seeking approval for ( real world) OOC Monetary gain by an individual or group of individuals (like an online store for physical products to be shipped to your house, etc.) (Forgive me. I'm new here.)

Second ---> I'm seeing allot of the opposition to the proposal stating they are doing so for reasons of freedom of choice. As far as I'M reading (and please feel free to correct me if it's wrong), there has been zero use of words such as "require" or "force" as a clause for continued membership in the WA. All I'VE seen (and, again, correct me if I'm wrong) are statements of "encourage" and "promote". Like..... "I highly encourage you to try the chocolate cookies at the buffet, but it's an OPTION and you can decline it you choose with no reason needed. But it's there if you change your mind."

I have already voted FOR based on that viewpoint because having the option to participate or not in this venture is something I'd like to have the ability to consider contributing to within the assembly. If you feel as if that may be a mistake, I am fully open to discuss the justification of changing the vote.

On another observation of the "it's for WA members only and I'm opposed to exclusion". If you are, so stated, opposed..... Why are YOU choosing to participate in the WA in the first place, as it happens to be a "members only" forum that ALREADY excludes non members from the decision making process? (There really isn't a wrong answer to this question. I'm just curious and it amuses me.)

[Kenmoria]

First ----> Clarification. Is this 100% an IC campaign proposal for a 100% IC business venture? Or is it ALSO seeking approval for ( real world) OOC Monetary gain by an individual or group of individuals (like an online store for physical products to be shipped to your house, etc.) (Forgive me. I'm new here.)

(OOC: Speaking on this point specifically, yes, the proposal is entirely IC. The rules on commercialism on NationStates prevent any GA proposal from supporting any sort of OOC moneymaking enterprise or the like.)

[Simone Republic]

Two things.....

First ----> Clarification. Is this 100% an IC campaign proposal for a 100% IC business venture? Or is it ALSO seeking approval for ( real world) OOC Monetary gain by an individual or group of individuals (like an online store for physical products to be shipped to your house, etc.) (Forgive me. I'm new here.)

Second ---> I'm seeing allot of the opposition to the proposal stating they are doing so for reasons of freedom of choice. As far as I'M reading (and please feel free to correct me if it's wrong), there has been zero use of words such as "require" or "force" as a clause for continued membership in the WA. All I'VE seen (and, again, correct me if I'm wrong) are statements of "encourage" and "promote". Like..... "I highly encourage you to try the chocolate cookies at the buffet, but it's an OPTION and you can decline it you choose with no reason needed. But it's there if you change your mind."

I have already voted FOR based on that viewpoint because having the option to participate or not in this venture is something I'd like to have the ability to consider contributing to within the assembly. If you feel as if that may be a mistake, I am fully open to discuss the justification of changing the vote.

On another observation of the "it's for WA members only and I'm opposed to exclusion". If you are, so stated, opposed..... Why are YOU choosing to participate in the WA in the first place, as it happens to be a "members only" forum that ALREADY excludes non members from the decision making process? (There really isn't a wrong answer to this question. I'm just curious and it amuses me.)

Yes it is 100% IC only. Obviously we cannot influence the commercial decisions of NationStates as a game itself.

The second point is correct. In character it does allow the World Assembly itself to plaster its own logo on everything (T-shirts, key chains, whatever) just like the real life United Nations, (and the United Nations Development Programme in particular). Whether a nation chooses to participate in this programme (not to say the WA in the first place) is up to them although very technically under this resolution, the WA can (kinda sorta) sell their merchandise online and WA nations cannot stop their own people from buying it.