It's a discussion thread, gave my two eurocents, nothing more.
*waves at other GenSec members* Stay pretty in pink!
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by Potted Plants United » Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:38 am
Separatist Peoples wrote:"NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE!"
- Mr. Bell, when introduced to PPU's newest moving plant
by Gruenberg » Thu Nov 24, 2022 4:48 am
Magecastle Embassy Building A5 wrote:Firstly, the rules are not even consistent with how they are actually enforced.
Magecastle Embassy Building A5 wrote:The GA already has a very steep learning curve. NS is played by users as young as 13, and being able to find a policy idea, write it into World Assembly law, ensure that it is politically viable, and be clear in avoiding oversights and loopholes, is already quite difficult, and this is not helped by players having their proposals marked illegal for something that a new player would only find by mining through old precedent when it should be clear from the text of the ruleset itself.
Magecastle Embassy Building A5 wrote:Besides the numerous typoes and errors in the text of the rules, the solution is a complete rework of the ruleset.
by Potted Plants United » Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:41 am
Gruenberg wrote:What an absolutely useless comment lmao
Gruenberg wrote:* Do a full WA reset.
Separatist Peoples wrote:"NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE!"
- Mr. Bell, when introduced to PPU's newest moving plant
by Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:37 am
by BEEstreetz » Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:49 am
Magecastle Embassy Building A5 wrote:The GA already has a very steep learning curve. NS is played by users as young as 13, and being able to find a policy idea, write it into World Assembly law, ensure that it is politically viable, and be clear in avoiding oversights and loopholes, is already quite difficult, and this is not helped by players having their proposals marked illegal for something that a new player would only find by mining through old precedent when it should be clear from the text of the ruleset itself.
Precedent itself can be filled with legal jargon and complicated language that would, once again, make it incomprehensible to the average 13 year old who only just joined NS/started participating in the WA. The Flesch-Kincaid readability scale shows the latest precedent with a grade level of 12.2, with all precedents having a GL scale of no less than 11. Likewise, the ruleset itself has a GL scale of 12.5. While I do not find that such complexity in GenSec rulings is inherently bad, it makes it even more important that the rules be clear and able to be understood by anyone.
by Sedgistan » Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:15 am
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:I think I remember reading a comment from [violet] saying that another reset would not happen. However, that was years ago.
by Bears Armed » Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:27 pm
Sedgistan wrote:Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:I think I remember reading a comment from [violet] saying that another reset would not happen. However, that was years ago.
That was probably pre-Development Managers. It would be Goob's call now. It got discussed in Technical when Mall was originally appointed DM, and that discussion could be revisited there if people want.
by Wallenburg » Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:30 am
El Lazaro wrote:The vast majority of illegal proposals are very low quality regardless, and wouldn’t have a chance of serious consideration even if they weren’t illegal.
by El Lazaro » Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:37 am
Wallenburg wrote:El Lazaro wrote:The vast majority of illegal proposals are very low quality regardless, and wouldn’t have a chance of serious consideration even if they weren’t illegal.
I'm not so sure on the latter point. Plenty of low quality proposals pass into law, and pretty much any proposal of any quality has a chance at going to Vote as long as someone advertises it sufficiently to the delegates.
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