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[DRAFT] Combatting Fascism

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Combatting Fascism
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Strong | Proposed by: Wrangle



Description: The World Assembly,

Observing that fascism is a dangerous and horrible ideology,

Wanting to limit and contain fascism,

Hereby enacts as follows:

  1. Definitions:
    1. In this resolution, Fascism is an ideology that puts authoritarian and hateful governments over individuals, and in addition asserts the biological superiority of one group of individuals over others;
    2. Fascism, being a hateful ideology, usually maintains hatred and dislike for the following groups:
      1. Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender individuals (also known as the LGBT+ community);
      2. Individuals of color (those with different skin colors than individuals in power and who may be minorities);
      3. Disabled individuals;
      4. Religious minorities.
    3. Radicalization is the process of an individual becoming sympathetic to fascist ideas and believing in those ideas themself through the consumption of fascist propaganda, i.e. media which expresses fascist ideology and aims to persuade one of fascist ideology.
  2. Member states must:
    1. Search for, at all times, instances of fascist expression, transmission, and propaganda in their territories in various media, which includes but is not limited to:
      1. Oral expression and transmission of fascism (a.k.a. word of mouth);
      2. Radio;
      3. Newspaper & magazine, and other print media such as books;
      4. Television;
      5. And last but not least, Internet.
    2. Find and apprehend the individuals responsible and put a stop to dissemination of fascism;
    3. Criminalize the spread of fascist ideas and the production fascist propaganda and punish individuals who spread this information accordingly;
    4. Produce and distribute communications to impede the spread of fascism and radicalization by educating populations on what is right, fair, and kind;
    5. Provide protection to the groups listed under Article 1B whenever violent threats of fascism become known until the threat has been neutralized;
    6. Offer resources and produce materials for individuals who have been radicalized to use and consume in order for them to no longer hold fascist beliefs.

Combatting Fascism
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Strong | Proposed by: Wrangle



Description: The World Assembly,

Observing that fascism is a dangerous and horrible ideology,

Wanting to limit and contain fascism,

Hereby enacts as follows:

  1. Definition
    1. In this resolution, Fascism is an ideology that puts authoritarian and hateful governments over individuals, and in addition asserts the biological superiority of one group of individuals over others,
  2. Member states must:
    1. Investigate instances of fascist thinking and expression in their territories.
    2. Apprehend the individuals responsible and put a stop to dissemination of fascism.
    3. Educate said individuals.
    4. Produce communications to impede the spread of fascism by educating populations on what is right, fair, and kind.
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Hello. I am new, and this is obviously still a first draft. I will improve and expand it over the course of drafting. I am new to this, and I really want to improve, so I will listen to what you all have to say about improving this proposal. Thank you! :lol: :)
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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:49 pm

Article 2a would seem to require that governments constantly surveil all the thoughts of all of their inhabitants, all the time, so that they can instantaneously detect "fascist thinking" and lock away the people who do it. How do you anticipate that this will work in societies which do not have access to mind-reading technology?
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Postby West Barack and East Obama » Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:50 pm

Dr Justin Obama, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs: This opens the door for allowing us to 're-educate' and arrest political opponents we declare fascists and opponents to our glorious communist ideology. Absolute full support, based as fuck.
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Postby Wrangle » Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:57 pm

Tinhampton wrote:Article 2a would seem to require that governments constantly surveil all the thoughts of all of their inhabitants, all the time, so that they can instantaneously detect "fascist thinking" and lock away the people who do it. How do you anticipate that this will work in societies which do not have access to mind-reading technology?

Monsieur Moustache says, "If someone says a fascist speech or posts it on the Internet, then it is an evidence of fascist thinking. You don't need a mind-reading device. But I will see about amending the text of the draft to clarify things."
West Barack and East Obama wrote:Dr Justin Obama, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs: This opens the door for allowing us to 're-educate' and arrest political opponents we declare fascists and opponents to our glorious communist ideology. Absolute full support, based as fuck.

Monsieur Moustache says, "Thank you very much for your support, Mr. Obama. Although you like the draft now, wait until it is completed and it will be even better!"
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Postby WayNeacTia » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:06 pm

In this resolution, Fascism is an ideology that puts authoritarian and hateful governments over individuals, and in addition asserts the biological superiority of one group of individuals over others,

Plagiarized straight from Wikipedia.

Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Strong

Nothing in this disaster improves civil rights in any fashion whatsoever. Let alone have enough teeth to be classified as Strong. 1/10 for effort.
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Postby Wrangle » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:12 pm

Wayneactia wrote:
In this resolution, Fascism is an ideology that puts authoritarian and hateful governments over individuals, and in addition asserts the biological superiority of one group of individuals over others,

Plagiarized straight from Wikipedia.

Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Strong

Nothing in this disaster improves civil rights in any fashion whatsoever. Let alone have enough teeth to be classified as Strong. 1/10 for effort.

"Hello sir. Where else is one supposed to get a definition of fascism? Of course I will consult a reputable source. Also, I will add things in the future to the resolution so it does have bite."
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Postby West Barack and East Obama » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:13 pm

Wrangle wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:
In this resolution, Fascism is an ideology that puts authoritarian and hateful governments over individuals, and in addition asserts the biological superiority of one group of individuals over others,

Plagiarized straight from Wikipedia.

Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Strong

Nothing in this disaster improves civil rights in any fashion whatsoever. Let alone have enough teeth to be classified as Strong. 1/10 for effort.

"Hello sir. Where else is one supposed to get a definition of fascism? Of course I will consult a reputable source. Also, I will add things in the future to the resolution to it does have bite."

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Postby Chrysanthemum State » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:14 pm

Firstly, welcome to NationStates! All WA resolutions start as drafts; maybe you'll author a resolution one day. :)
There are things you can should improve on, which Wayneactia has gone over.
Wayneactia wrote:
In this resolution, Fascism is an ideology that puts authoritarian and hateful governments over individuals, and in addition asserts the biological superiority of one group of individuals over others,

Plagiarized straight from Wikipedia.

Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Strong

Nothing in this disaster improves civil rights in any fashion whatsoever. Let alone have enough teeth to be classified as Strong. 1/10 for effort.


The various fascist regions aren't mentioned here. Could they be mentioned in a GA resolution?
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Chrysanthemum State wrote:Firstly, welcome to NationStates! All WA resolutions start as drafts; maybe you'll author a resolution one day. :)
There are things you can improve on, which Wayneactia has gone over.
Wayneactia wrote:
In this resolution, Fascism is an ideology that puts authoritarian and hateful governments over individuals, and in addition asserts the biological superiority of one group of individuals over others,

Plagiarized straight from Wikipedia.

Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Strong

Nothing in this disaster improves civil rights in any fashion whatsoever. Let alone have enough teeth to be classified as Strong. 1/10 for effort.


The various fascist regions aren't mentioned here. Could they be mentioned in a GA resolution?


OOC: Regions cannot be mentioned in the GA. That's metagaming.
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Postby Chrysanthemum State » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:15 pm

Thanks, Obama. :)
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Postby Wrangle » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:15 pm

West Barack and East Obama wrote:
Wrangle wrote:"Hello sir. Where else is one supposed to get a definition of fascism? Of course I will consult a reputable source. Also, I will add things in the future to the resolution to it does have bite."

OOC: Plagiarism from wikipedia is illegal and your proposal will be discarded, and you may get you ejected from the WA

I actually got the definition from Merriam-Webster and not Wikipedia. I think that I didn't use the exact same wording.
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Postby Wrangle » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:19 pm

Chrysanthemum State wrote:Firstly, welcome to NationStates! All WA resolutions start as drafts; maybe you'll author a resolution one day. :)
There are things you can should improve on, which Wayneactia has gone over.
Wayneactia wrote:
In this resolution, Fascism is an ideology that puts authoritarian and hateful governments over individuals, and in addition asserts the biological superiority of one group of individuals over others,

Plagiarized straight from Wikipedia.

Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Strong

Nothing in this disaster improves civil rights in any fashion whatsoever. Let alone have enough teeth to be classified as Strong. 1/10 for effort.


The various fascist regions aren't mentioned here. Could they be mentioned in a GA resolution?

"Thank you, Chrysanthemum State! I don't know if I can mention different regions in GA resolution. Maybe that is a job for the Security Counsel."
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Postby WayNeacTia » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:25 pm

Wrangle wrote:I don't know if I can mention different regions in GA resolution. Maybe that is a job for the Security Counsel."

Where it's been done already.....

Member states must:
Search for, at all times, instances of fascist expression and transmission in their territories in various media, which includes but is not limited to:
Oral expression and transmission of fascism (a.k.a. word of mouth);
Radio;
Newspaper & magazine, and other print media such as books;
Television;
And last but not least, Internet.
Apprehend the individuals responsible and put a stop to dissemination of fascism.
Educate said individuals.
Produce communications to impede the spread of fascism by educating populations on what is right, fair, and kind.

I assume you have consulted with Article One, Article Two, and Article Three of Rights and Duties of WA States?
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Postby Wrangle » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:37 pm

Wayneactia wrote:
Wrangle wrote:I don't know if I can mention different regions in GA resolution. Maybe that is a job for the Security Counsel."

Where it's been done already.....

"Yup, so no need to mention those regions here!"
Wayneactia wrote:
Member states must:
Search for, at all times, instances of fascist expression and transmission in their territories in various media, which includes but is not limited to:
Oral expression and transmission of fascism (a.k.a. word of mouth);
Radio;
Newspaper & magazine, and other print media such as books;
Television;
And last but not least, Internet.
Apprehend the individuals responsible and put a stop to dissemination of fascism.
Educate said individuals.
Produce communications to impede the spread of fascism by educating populations on what is right, fair, and kind.

I assume you have consulted with Article One, Article Two, and Article Three of Rights and Duties of WA States?

"Yup, I have read those things. That resolution bans WA member states from interfering with each other. But the World Assembly itself is not a member state and is not subject to those limitations, or else it would not be able to pass and enforce any of its legislation."
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Postby Bananaistan » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:32 am

"Full support. Fascism must be confined to the dustbin of history."

OOC:
Wayneactia wrote:
In this resolution, Fascism is an ideology that puts authoritarian and hateful governments over individuals, and in addition asserts the biological superiority of one group of individuals over others,

Plagiarized straight from Wikipedia.


I don't see this text appearing anywhere on that page.

Wayneactia wrote:
Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Strong

Nothing in this disaster improves civil rights in any fashion whatsoever. Let alone have enough teeth to be classified as Strong. 1/10 for effort.


@OP. You'd need to change the category. There's nothing in your proposal that increases freedom from government control. If anything, it's the opposite and Moral Decency would be appropriate. Have a look here.

Wayneactia wrote:I assume you have consulted with Article One, Article Two, and Article Three of Rights and Duties of WA States?


I am very surprised that you are not aware that there's literally nothing in those sections of GAR#2 that prevents WA action. One prevents action by nation states - the WA is not a nation state, and the others are "subject to the immunities recognized by international law" which means that the WA can do as it wishes.
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"We are vehemently opposed to any policy that requires we engage in aggressive police spying and criminalization of wrongthink. Fascism is an intolerable ideology, but that doesn't justify resorting to it's tools.

"Further, we see little reason to advocate for kindness among citizens. The C.D.S.P. is considered a rude place by most genteel standards. We'd hate to buck that trend."
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:44 am

Ambassador Tav: Opposed to any resolution that aims to destroy an ideology. While fascism is bad, there are other ways to go after it rather than a blanket WA ban. Besides, what's not to say that it gets abused and any authoritarian regime gets declared "fascist?"
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Postby Fachumonn » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:57 am

Wrangle wrote:
West Barack and East Obama wrote:OOC: Plagiarism from wikipedia is illegal and your proposal will be discarded, and you may get you ejected from the WA

I actually got the definition from Merriam-Webster and not Wikipedia. I think that I didn't use the exact same wording.

It's still probably plagiarism. Make sure to mix up the words more and add a little bit or else you might get ejected from the WA and your proposal discarded.
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Postby Goobergunchia » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:37 pm

Merriam-Webster wrote:a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

I'm not seeing the plagiarism.

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Postby The Wallenburgian World Assembly Offices » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:55 pm

"My office fears that a measure such as this would further delay Wallenburgian reintegration into the World Assembly. Our nation cares a great deal for the free expression of thought, and while some ideas under your 'fascist' umbrella are worthy of suppression, the outright prohibition or chilling effect on legitimate democratic expression would be far too severe. Criminalization of ideological beliefs is perhaps the most outright anti-democratic action conceivable."
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Postby Floofybit » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:09 pm

While this resolution does do good work against sympathising minorities, I feel like it should still cover turmoil against majorities. Such as the racist belief that whites are inherently racist. I don't know if that falls under fascism but I feel like it would be honourable to cover.
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