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[DRAFT] Inclusiveness in Education (GA#603 replace)

Postby Minskiev » Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:34 am

Hi y'all. This is the replacement for GA#603, should this repeal pass. We decided to broaden the scope from LGBTQ+ bigotry to general bigotry, but rest assured, this provides the same protections to the LGBTQ+ and other marginalized communities without bankrupting millions, if not billions of cultural institutions as GA#603 did.
The World Assembly,

Since bigotry creates undue harm and an undesirably divided, unsafe, and uncivil society and learning environment, hereby:

  1. Defines “hate speech” as public speech that expresses, encourages, stirs up, or incites hatred against an individual or group of individuals distinguished by and the hatred being for one or multiple arbitrary characteristics,

  2. Mandates that member states provide through some form of education, in good faith, to all of their students, an accurate understanding of:
    1. the common forms of bigotry, including racism, sexism, and queerphobia;
    2. the arbitrary characteristics targeted by the taught common forms of bigotry;
    3. why said bigotry is unjust;
    4. why tolerating arbitrary characteristics is just; and
    5. the notion that hate speech must not be used.
  3. Directs schools within member states to:
    1. offer resources to their students to help them deal with bigotry due to one or multiple arbitrary characteristics they possess;
    2. actively work to prevent (and punish those behind known occurrences of) hate speech and harassment or discrimination by their students against individuals or groups of individuals for one or multiple arbitrary characteristics, or the perception thereof, and encourage their students to report and work to prevent such hate speech, harassment, and discrimination by their fellow students,
    3. not express hate speech, harass or discriminate against their students because of one or multiple arbitrary characteristics an individual or group of individuals possesses, or the perception thereof.

The World Assembly,

Since bigotry creates undue harm and an undesirably divided, unsafe, and uncivil society and learning environment, hereby:
  1. Defines:
    1. “hate speech” as public speech that expresses, encourages, stirs up, or incites hatred against an individual or group of individuals distinguished by and the hatred being for an or multiple arbitrary characteristics; and
    2. a “non-specialized school” as a school that teaches broad educational topics and does not narrow in on one interest or field of education or work.
  2. Mandates member states to require their schools to:
    1. if that school is non-specialized, teach in good faith, in the curriculum (though making an effort not to teach repeated material, and excepting colleges or similarly higher education if the material would be already taught before then):
      1. the definitions of racism, sexism, queerphobia, and other common forms of bigotry; and
      2. how these forms of bigotry should and must not be used to justify hate speech.
    2. if that school is non-specialized, offer resources to their students to help them deal with bigotry due to an or multiple arbitrary characteristics they possess;
    3. actively work to prevent (and punish those behind known occurrences of) hate speech and harassment or discrimination by their students against individuals or groups of individuals for an or multiple arbitrary characteristics, or the perception thereof, and encourage their students to report and work to prevent such hate speech, harassment, and discrimination by their fellow students,
    4. not express hate speech, harass or discriminate because of an or multiple arbitrary characteristics an individual or group of individuals possesses, or the perception thereof.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:38 am

"Opposed. This assembly continues to heap details on domestic curricula with wanton disregard for the practicalities of this practice. Ambassadors, leave those kids alone."

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Postby The Orwell Society » Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:44 am

Support. A worthy replacement.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:00 am

Minskiev wrote:We decided to broaden the scope from LGBTQ+ bigotry to general bigotry

Is this replacement sponsored by Honeydewistania and/or Dokansia?

Opposed: my objections to school-level, piecemeal restrictions on hate speech (or indeed any WA-wide restrictions on hate speech) remain.
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Postby Minskiev » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:44 am

Tinhampton wrote:
Minskiev wrote:We decided to broaden the scope from LGBTQ+ bigotry to general bigotry

Is this replacement sponsored by Honeydewistania and/or Dokansia?

Opposed: my objections to school-level, piecemeal restrictions on hate speech (or indeed any WA-wide restrictions on hate speech) remain.

The GA#603 repeal and replace is a project between us, yes. Honeydew primarily worked on the repeal, I worked on the replacement.
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Postby Bananaistan » Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:45 am

"I agree with Ambassador Bell.

"Also, wtf is a "non-specialized" school?"
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Postby West Barack and East Obama » Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:50 am

Bananaistan wrote:"I agree with Ambassador Bell.

"Also, wtf is a "non-specialized" school?"

Dr Justin Obama, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs: I would assume it is a school that is an actual school and not just a random Taekwondo class.

In any case, echoing the comments of others on this not being worthy of international legislation, but as this proposal passing is likely the only way GA#603 can be repealed, and this has no real flaws besides it’s premise, begrudging support. Maybe this can be repealed down the line with less controversy than the other one and not be replaced.
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Postby Bananaistan » Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:54 am

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Bananaistan wrote:"I agree with Ambassador Bell.

"Also, wtf is a "non-specialized" school?"

Dr Justin Obama, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs: I would assume it is a school that is an actual school and not just a random Taekwondo class.

In any case, echoing the comments of others on this not being worthy of international legislation, but as this proposal passing is likely the only way GA#603 can be repealed, and this has no real flaws besides it’s premise, begrudging support. Maybe this can be repealed down the line with less controversy than the other one and not be replaced.


"In the absence of a definition, member states could quite easily decide they have no such thing as a "non-specialized" school. After all, all schools are institutions which specialise in education."
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Postby West Barack and East Obama » Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:55 am

Bananaistan wrote:
West Barack and East Obama wrote:Dr Justin Obama, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs: I would assume it is a school that is an actual school and not just a random Taekwondo class.

In any case, echoing the comments of others on this not being worthy of international legislation, but as this proposal passing is likely the only way GA#603 can be repealed, and this has no real flaws besides it’s premise, begrudging support. Maybe this can be repealed down the line with less controversy than the other one and not be replaced.


"In the absence of a definition, member states could quite easily decide they have no such thing as a "non-specialized" school. After all, all schools are institutions which specialise in education."


Dr Justin Obama, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs: That is true. Maybe Ambassador Russell could clarify what they mean by their definitions.
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Postby Anne of Cleves in TNP » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:32 am

“I feel that this proposal needs to define ‘specialized’ and ‘non-specialized’ schools, but that aside, there are no major flaws and this resolves the problems of the current edition in place (e.g.: this proposal categorizes the school types). Therefore, the Clevesian Empire supports this until further notice.”
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Postby Minskiev » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:36 am

Added a definition.
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Postby Makko Oko » Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:34 am

a “non-specialized school” as a school that teaches broad educational topics and does not narrow in on one interest or field of education or work.


The Makko Okoan Ambassador reads through the entire resolution and scoffs, then looks directly at the Minskiev delegation and says "You actually approve of this?!?" and then the Ambassador sighs and says in a hushed tone "What has this institution come to..."

Then the Ambassador says to the Minskiev delegation, "Look, with all due respect, our government is solemnly against this because of the gaping loophole we see in regards to Article 1(b). All it takes is a government deciding to split all schooling across MANY specialized schools, one for Math, one for Science, one for English, etc. Once that split happens, they aren't bound by this resolution anymore, and nothing you've mandated applies Ambassador."
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Postby Anne of Cleves in TNP » Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:09 am

Makko Oko wrote:
a “non-specialized school” as a school that teaches broad educational topics and does not narrow in on one interest or field of education or work.


The Makko Okoan Ambassador reads through the entire resolution and scoffs, then looks directly at the Minskiev delegation and says "You actually approve of this?!?" and then the Ambassador sighs and says in a hushed tone "What has this institution come to..."

Then the Ambassador says to the Minskiev delegation, "Look, with all due respect, our government is solemnly against this because of the gaping loophole we see in regards to Article 1(b). All it takes is a government deciding to split all schooling across MANY specialized schools, one for Math, one for Science, one for English, etc. Once that split happens, they aren't bound by this resolution anymore, and nothing you've mandated applies Ambassador."

“Ambassador, I understand what you are talking about here. You are essentially saying that the proposal can become null and void since governments can just make more specialized schools for each educational subject. I even concede that this loophole is problematic given that the proposal only covers non-specialized schools.

However, I think that the loophole will not be able to create havoc so easily. The cost for creating an individual school is very high, depending on individual currencies. Therefore, governments cannot simply create multiple schools for each subject without draining their national economies. Considering this, most multiversal leaders would be wise not to drain their economies and create chaos, so the consequences from many specialized schools being created will most likely not occur due to the economic strain of these new schools on the national economies.”
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Postby Minskiev » Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:17 pm

Makko Oko wrote:Then the Ambassador says to the Minskiev delegation, "Look, with all due respect, our government is solemnly against this because of the gaping loophole we see in regards to Article 1(b). All it takes is a government deciding to split all schooling across MANY specialized schools, one for Math, one for Science, one for English, etc. Once that split happens, they aren't bound by this resolution anymore, and nothing you've mandated applies Ambassador."


Ambassador Wallace Russell sighs. God, he could use an Advil right now.

"Arf arf arf arf....arf arf arf arf arf arf." How the Makko Okoan Ambassador seriously thinks that's a plausible scenario and thus a colorable or valid complaint is beyond him. Between the amount of funding that'd require, the transport times to each school, the lost efficiency in education, and overall the sheer absurdity of the idea, it's wild that this is an actual concern being raised.
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Postby Bananaistan » Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:36 pm

"With the definition it's better but not quite there. I'm not quite sure that schools teach "educational topics". And we agree that the most recent "concerns" raised by the Makko Okoan Ambassador are rather extreme and far-fetched.

"Still opposed though. Few nations will require such a detailed level of micromanagement as this, and particularly with the likely repetition that will result in many nations: the kid will be told this bigotry is bad message when they're in pre-school, again in primary school, again in middle school, again in junior high school and again in senior high school.

"And as is always the case with this sort of proposal in recent times, home-schooled children's heads can be filled with all sorts of nonsense and the WA says that's just fine and dandy.

"The approach the assembly took in GAR#80 is far better. No mention of schools and only generalised requirements rather than detailed elements of education curricula."
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Postby Riviere Renard » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:19 pm

I criticized this proposal in my repsonce to the repeal, so I thought I'd carry it over here, too.

Riviere Renard wrote:However, the proposed replacement is, in my opinion, really, really bad. While it has the benefit of challenging a wider array of bigotry, it has two fatal flaws. Firstly, its use of non-specialized and specialized schools is problematic, as it leaves the door open to loopholes. Secondly, and more importantly, it removes the requirement for schools to teach people about gender and sexuality, instead only teaching about bigotry. I believe that teaching students to understand themselves and others is very important, and, when done correctly, leads to a far, far more inclusive, accepting, and understanding environment than merely teaching about bigotry. I believe it is difficult, for example, to combat acephobia without understanding what asexuality is. And, having at least a surface level exploration of gender and sexuality has a tremendous positive mental health affect on gender and sexuality diverse students; I speak from experience there. Furthermore, teaching about bigotry but not the identities on the receiving ends of that bigotry can result in those identities being perceived by students as defined by suffering. Thus, removing that requirement is, in my opinion, ludicrous.


I think I will expand a bit on my first point. Instead of focusing on specialized vs non-specialized, it should be focused on something much easier to define and enforce: primary vs secondary education. IE: what is reasonably going to be considered a child's main source of education, and what will have the larger time investment. The school the child learns the most from and spends the most time in is what should have this anti-discrimination system's focus. Further, I think it is worth considering having the home-schooling curriculum covered, at least to some degree, as well.

I can imagine that there are some (rather authoritarian) nations that send their students exclusively to "specialized" schools, at least in later years, and these systems should be covered.
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Postby Macadia » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:25 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:"Opposed. This assembly continues to heap details on domestic curricula with wanton disregard for the practicalities of this practice. Ambassadors, leave those kids alone."

“Opposed for all the same reasons, also, why enforce certain topics in schools, leave that to each individual member-state, leave the curricula and what it entails to the nation, the region, the board, and the parents.”

OOC: Isn’t this your second time writing a replacement for GA#603?
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Postby Madjack » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:27 am

Opposed due to not including anything requiring specialised schools to even provide resources (which could be as little as a goddamn link to a website) that address inclusiveness. This is worse than the resolution it is trying to replace.
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Postby West Barack and East Obama » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:54 am

Madjack wrote:Opposed due to not including anything requiring specialised schools to even provide resources (which could be as little as a goddamn link to a website) that address inclusiveness. This is worse than the resolution it is trying to replace.

I seriously doubt that it’s worse than the target, which has many issues. Also, the specialised school providing resources already provided by other schools would be pretty redundant, though the suggestion of providing referrals is a good one.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:41 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:"Opposed. This assembly continues to heap details on domestic curricula with wanton disregard for the practicalities of this practice. Ambassadors, leave those kids alone."

"Perhaps it is time for another blocker in the WALL....."
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Postby Minskiev » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:05 pm

I'll put out a second draft by tonight.
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Postby Lile Ulie Islands » Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:37 pm

Minskiev wrote:Hi y'all. This is the replacement for GA#603, should this repeal pass. We decided to broaden the scope from LGBTQ+ bigotry to general bigotry, but rest assured, this provides the same protections to the LGBTQ+ and other marginalized communities without bankrupting millions, if not billions of cultural institutions as GA#603 did.
The World Assembly,

Since bigotry creates undue harm and an undesirably divided, unsafe, and uncivil society and learning environment, hereby:
  1. Defines:
    1. “hate speech” as public speech that expresses, encourages, stirs up, or incites hatred against an individual or group of individuals distinguished by and the hatred being for an or multiple arbitrary characteristics; and
    2. a “non-specialized school” as a school that teaches broad educational topics and does not narrow in on one interest or field of education or work.
  2. Mandates member states to require their schools to:
    1. if that school is non-specialized, teach in good faith, in the curriculum (though making an effort not to teach repeated material, and excepting colleges or similarly higher education if the material would be already taught before then):
      1. the definitions of racism, sexism, queerphobia, and other common forms of bigotry; and
      2. how these forms of bigotry should and must not be used to justify hate speech.
    2. if that school is non-specialized, offer resources to their students to help them deal with bigotry due to an or multiple arbitrary characteristics they possess;
    3. actively work to prevent (and punish those behind known occurrences of) hate speech and harassment or discrimination by their students against individuals or groups of individuals for an or multiple arbitrary characteristics, or the perception thereof, and encourage their students to report and work to prevent such hate speech, harassment, and discrimination by their fellow students,
    4. not express hate speech, harass or discriminate because of an or multiple arbitrary characteristics an individual or group of individuals possesses, or the perception thereof.


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Postby Princess Rainbow Sparkles » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:34 pm

“Consider a simpler mandate on the educational aspect. There are many jagged rocks in the waters you are in. Rather than immediately crashing your boat trying to figure out what a “non-specialized school” is, chart a simpler course.

“What about this: all member nations must ensure that at some point in a child’s primary education - preferably at an age when the child has the maturity and capacity to understand the subject matter - a child must receive [insert your important education goals here].

“On a similar note, why make bigotry resources the duty of a school? Surely, we can find a way to encourage member nations to provide counseling to those facing bigotry without forcing another obligation on our overworked and underfunded education providers.”

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Postby Minskiev » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:43 pm

New draft is up
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Postby Minskiev » Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:14 pm

Bump. This is still being worked on.
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