[DRAFT] Queer Inclusiveness in Education (GA#603 replace.)

[Ardiveds]

OOC: While I agree 603's definition of hate speech was a bit too broad, I also think, you should include hatred against sex within the definition of hate speech. Discrimination and violence against women often stem from hatred. If schools could nip such hatred in the bud, it would not only protect cis women but trans ones as well.
If some weirdo told you they hated you because you're male, you could shrug it off but if that weirdo grew up to be a husband beater, his/her husband won't be able to shrug it off.

[The Turkmen Emirate]

OOC: While I agree 603's definition of hate speech was a bit too broad, I also think, you should include hatred against sex within the definition of hate speech. Discrimination and violence against women often stem from hatred. If schools could nip such hatred in the bud, it would not only protect cis women but trans ones as well.
If some weirdo told you they hated you because you're male, you could shrug it off but if that weirdo grew up to be a husband beater, his/her husband won't be able to shrug it off.

OOC: true. Rapists of women often use claim about how women are like “women only go for athletes” (which even if, hypothetically,it is true is no excuse).
Incels have killed before and regardless of how “small” the numbers are their worth more than the lives or liberty of all the Incels put together.

[Platoon of Peace]

Hello. Proposed replacement for GA#603. Title a work in progress. Feedback is always appreciated.

The World Assembly,

Since bigotry towards the LGBTQIA+ creates undue harm and a divided, unsafe, and uncivil society and school environment, and since that is undesirable, hereby:

1. Defines “LGBTQIA+ hate speech” as public speech that expresses, encourages, stirs up, or incites hatred against an individual or group of individuals distinguished by and the hatred being for their gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, or romantic orientation,
2. Mandates member states to require their schools to:
   
   1. if that school is non-specialized, teach in good faith, in the curriculum (though making an effort not to teach repeated material, and excepting colleges or similarly higher education if the material would be already taught before then):
      
      1. the definitions of gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, and romantic orientation; and
      2. how these four traits and their non-cisgender, non-heterosexual, and non-romantic variations are normal, equal in status and rights to their cisgender, heterosexual, or heteroromantic counterparts, and should not be used to justify LGBTQIA+ hate speech.
   2. if that school is non-specialized, offer resources to their students to assist in questioning, determining, and accepting the student’s gender identity, sexual orientation, or romantic orientation, and to help them deal with bigotry due to gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, or romantic orientation;
   3. actively work to prevent (and punish those behind known occurrences) LGBTQIA+ hate speech and harassment or discrimination by their students against individuals or groups of individuals for their gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, romantic orientation, sex assigned at birth, or the perception thereof, and encourage their students to report and work to prevent such LGBTQIA+ hate speech, harassment, and discrimination by their students,
   4. not express LGBTQIA+ hate speech, nor harass, nor discriminate because of gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, romantic orientation, sex assigned at birth, or the perception thereof.

2b could be considered brainwashing kids to be a diffrent gender (especially for younger kids) and 2c violates free speech which is neccesary for free media and a fair democracy there for this cannot pass for the same reasons as the thing its meant to replace and in reality is pretty much the same thing as what its trying to replace I just suggest we repeal without replacement and if a replacemnet is really neccesary (I don't think it is really neccesary) then atleast fix those isues

on 2b: how can that be considered brainwashing? it offers resources, it does not make it mandatory for people to use them. It helps them deal with bigotry, which is not brainwashing. I don't know if I'm missing the point of your argument here but I see nothing remotely close to brainwashing.
on 2c: mr. life, we've already been through this. multiple times. Hate speech is not ok. inciting hatred against people is not ok. I don't quite understand why you think it would be.

[Minskiev]

Okay, well I think it's a little strange but I've included sex assigned at birth in the definition for hate speech.

also, please ignore Life Empire.

[Minskiev]

Bump.

[Avacquer]

Yeah, I guess this is a good name, the old one had a typo. It should be "LGBTQIA+", not "LGBTIQA+"

[Sylh Alanor]

Yeah, I guess this is a good name, the old one had a typo. It should be "LGBTQIA+", not "LGBTIQA+"

Different countries have different acronyms depending on which communities are more vocal/active. In the UK, it's LGBTIQA+, in Canada it's LGBTQ2+ or LGBT2Q+, in the US it's LGBTQIA+, in Spain it's LGTB. This is why it's generally just LGBT+ when you're discussing online.

[Fachumonn]

Yeah, I guess this is a good name, the old one had a typo. It should be "LGBTQIA+", not "LGBTIQA+"

Different countries have different acronyms depending on which communities are more vocal/active. In the UK, it's LGBTIQA+, in Canada it's LGBTQ2+ or LGBT2Q+, in the US it's LGBTQIA+, in Spain it's LGTB. This is why it's generally just LGBT+ when you're discussing online.

This tbh. There are many different ways to arrange the letters, but they all mean practically the same thing.

[Minskiev]

Bump.

[Hulldom]

I don't know if I support this on principle because I know exactly what the intention behind this is. A good old replace-repeal. If anything, I'd caution you just to wait a little bit before going for this. Like maybe wait a couple months so things quit feeling so darn repetitive.

Anyways, some notes.

The World Assembly,

Since bigotry towards the LGBTQIA+ creates undue harm and a divided, unsafe, and uncivil society and school environment, and since that is undesirable,

This feels weirdly clunky. Would say something akin to "Since bigotry towards LGTBQIA+ beings...".

Also would find a way to integrate "undesirable" into this clause. Something like "...creates undue harm and an undesirably divided, unsafe, and uncivil learning environment...".

Changed some of the wording in this proposed edit (as is my wont), because it felt a bit...off.

hereby:

1. Defines “LGBTQIA+ hate speech” as public speech that expresses, encourages, stirs up, or incites hatred against an individual or group of individuals distinguished by and the hatred being for their gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, romantic orientation, or sex assigned at birth;
2. Mandates member states to require their schools to:
   
   1. if that school is non-specialized, teach in good faith, in the curriculum (though making an effort not to teach repeated material, and excepting colleges or similarly higher education if the material would be already taught before then):
   1. the definitions of gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, and romantic orientation; and
   2. how these four traits and their non-cisgender, non-heterosexual, and non-romantic variations are normal, equal in status and rights to their cisgender, heterosexual, or heteroromantic counterparts, and should not be used to justify LGBTQIA+ hate speech.

Drop the comma after "normal" and have it be "normal and equal in status and rights". I, at least, read "equal in status and rights" as one phrase, not two and you would only need the comma there if they were two separate things.

if that school is non-specialized, offer resources to their students to assist in questioning, determining, and accepting the student’s gender identity, sexual orientation, or romantic orientation, and to help them deal with bigotry due to gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, or romantic orientation;

This is fine, I guess. I do question why this requirement need only pertain to non-specialized schools.

actively work to prevent (and punish those behind known occurrences) LGBTQIA+ hate speech and harassment or discrimination by their students against individuals or groups of individuals for their gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, romantic orientation, sex assigned at birth, or the perception thereof, and encourage their students to report and work to prevent such LGBTQIA+ hate speech, harassment, and discrimination by their students,

Two things, both minor:
1. "and punish those behind known occurrences" should have an 'of' at the end and should be set off as an appositive (commas around it).
2. the word "fellow" is probably appropriate between "their" and "students" because the reporting body early in the clause is the same students.

not express LGBTQIA+ hate speech, nor harass or discriminate because of gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, romantic orientation, sex assigned at birth, or the perception thereof.

This is fine, just put a comma after "of". That phrase should be set off as an appositive.