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Densylia
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Postby Densylia » Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:40 am

Absolutely stunned that this looks like it’ll be defeated, whilst euthanasia-policies were approved last time. :eyebrow:


Definitely will be noting this down, hopefully it can be fixed in the future, otherwise, a lot of nations will probably have to resign from the WA (MOST religious states) or ignore legislature.

But yeah, super disappointed we’ve gone ahead with social restrictions, but refuse to confront actually important issues that affect us all.
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Postby Untecna » Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:46 am

Densylia wrote:Absolutely stunned that this looks like it’ll be defeated, whilst euthanasia-policies were approved last time. :eyebrow:


Definitely will be noting this down, hopefully it can be fixed in the future, otherwise, a lot of nations will probably have to resign from the WA (MOST religious states) or ignore legislature.

But yeah, super disappointed we’ve gone ahead with social restrictions, but refuse to confront actually important issues that affect us all.

...

Okay, bud, look:

  1. This proposal has reasoning against it. I've seen the reasoning and decided that its best to abandon the topic (for the time being) and focus on another project.
  2. Support for euthanasia has nothing to do with this proposal, at all. While fragmentation is an issue, I can see why euthanasia was more concerning than this.
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Postby Unibot III » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:26 am

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Unibot III wrote:And I must thank the Imperium Anglorum delegation for its poor password security. 'Password123.' Really?

Please don't god-mod my delegation, which doesn't use WiFi.


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Postby Glatixland » Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:24 am

"After careful review of this proposal, Glatixland has decided to vote 'against'. While we support the preservation of native species, and recognize the importance of maintaining natural habitats, we outright refuse to cede infrastructural autonomy to any foreign body in such a direct manner.

Our concerns are borne primarily from the following passage:

All member nations are required to take action to mitigate and minimize the effects of fragmentation if the animal in question meets the guidelines and the fragmentation is caused by artificial barriers.

Approval of this proposal would mean regularly submitting our infrastructural plans to an international organization for approval. Not only would this risk a slowdown of Glatixian development by way of an unnecessary third party, but it would also compromise national security by way of mandating that military works be reported."

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Postby Cheries » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:11 am

Glatixland wrote:"After careful review of this proposal, Glatixland has decided to vote 'against'. While we support the preservation of native species, and recognize the importance of maintaining natural habitats, we outright refuse to cede infrastructural autonomy to any foreign body in such a direct manner.

Our concerns are borne primarily from the following passage:

All member nations are required to take action to mitigate and minimize the effects of fragmentation if the animal in question meets the guidelines and the fragmentation is caused by artificial barriers.

Approval of this proposal would mean regularly submitting our infrastructural plans to an international organization for approval. Not only would this risk a slowdown of Glatixian development by way of an unnecessary third party, but it would also compromise national security by way of mandating that military works be reported."

"Do you really think that preventing the planet from turning into a celestial Error 404 would be some sort of easy feat? Preventing the fragmentation of native species is absolutely key to keeping ecosystems in balance, which in turn massively reduces the challenge of diminishing environmental damage! For survival, sacrifices must be made. If you aren't willing to give up something to keep the world from dying off, then maybe reconsider your life choices. And even if your government was forced to submit the knowledge of a military construction, what would a nonpartisan WA committee do with a description of the construction of a military location?

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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:56 am

Cheries wrote:
Glatixland wrote:"After careful review of this proposal, Glatixland has decided to vote 'against'. While we support the preservation of native species, and recognize the importance of maintaining natural habitats, we outright refuse to cede infrastructural autonomy to any foreign body in such a direct manner.

Our concerns are borne primarily from the following passage:

All member nations are required to take action to mitigate and minimize the effects of fragmentation if the animal in question meets the guidelines and the fragmentation is caused by artificial barriers.

Approval of this proposal would mean regularly submitting our infrastructural plans to an international organization for approval. Not only would this risk a slowdown of Glatixian development by way of an unnecessary third party, but it would also compromise national security by way of mandating that military works be reported."

"Do you really think that preventing the planet from turning into a celestial Error 404 would be some sort of easy feat? Preventing the fragmentation of native species is absolutely key to keeping ecosystems in balance, which in turn massively reduces the challenge of diminishing environmental damage! For survival, sacrifices must be made. If you aren't willing to give up something to keep the world from dying off, then maybe reconsider your life choices. And even if your government was forced to submit the knowledge of a military construction, what would a nonpartisan WA committee do with a description of the construction of a military location?

~Emperor Ṫarā̇ṅıs Nērinım II, translated from Cherian

Ambassador Tav: Is your leadership and delegation oblivious to the various flaws in the target resolution at vote?
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Postby Cheries » Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:21 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Cheries wrote:"Do you really think that preventing the planet from turning into a celestial Error 404 would be some sort of easy feat? Preventing the fragmentation of native species is absolutely key to keeping ecosystems in balance, which in turn massively reduces the challenge of diminishing environmental damage! For survival, sacrifices must be made. If you aren't willing to give up something to keep the world from dying off, then maybe reconsider your life choices. And even if your government was forced to submit the knowledge of a military construction, what would a nonpartisan WA committee do with a description of the construction of a military location?

~Emperor Ṫarā̇ṅıs Nērinım II, translated from Cherian

Ambassador Tav: Is your leadership and delegation oblivious to the various flaws in the target resolution at vote?


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Foreṡ Post: Third Goat Explosion in 18 Months at the DMV After Ale Binge || "Unnerving" Granite Chunk Appears in Park in Xau̇mtē || Public Toilet Explodes after Armenian Tourist Flushes 15kg of Sand, Half-Eaten Birthday Cake, 19 Socks, Russian Flag, Box of Hamsters, and AK-47 || Opinion: It's Time to Ban Pastel Blue


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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:42 pm

Cheries wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Ambassador Tav: Is your leadership and delegation oblivious to the various flaws in the target resolution at vote?


"If you cannot appreciate the fact that life is exponentially more valuable than military intelligence, then you have no business judging others."

~Emperor Ṫarā̇ṅıs Nērinım II, translated from Cherian

Ambassador Tav: Where did you even get military intelligence in an issue about wildlife corridors? Has your delegation bothered to read dissenting opinions and see the flaws present?
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Postby Untecna » Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:44 pm

Even I see the flaws, and I've accepted them into reasoning.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:50 pm

Untecna wrote:Even I see the flaws, and I've accepted them into reasoning.

I guess some issues are just too hard or impractical to legislate on a WA level, and wildlife fragmentation might as well be added to the list.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:26 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Untecna wrote:Even I see the flaws, and I've accepted them into reasoning.

I guess some issues are just too hard or impractical to legislate on a WA level, and wildlife fragmentation might as well be added to the list.

Ooc: The author was warned.

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Postby Untecna » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:27 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:I guess some issues are just too hard or impractical to legislate on a WA level, and wildlife fragmentation might as well be added to the list.

Ooc: The author was warned.

I don't see much of a warning... anywhere.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:43 pm

Untecna wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:Ooc: The author was warned.

I don't see much of a warning... anywhere.

Wasn't it in your first attempt? That was a while ago but it would be a relevant place to look.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:54 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Untecna wrote:I don't see much of a warning... anywhere.

Wasn't it in your first attempt? That was a while ago but it would be a relevant place to look.

Ooc:yup

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Postby Cheries » Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:59 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Untecna wrote:Even I see the flaws, and I've accepted them into reasoning.

I guess some issues are just too hard or impractical to legislate on a WA level, and wildlife fragmentation might as well be added to the list.
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    -An IE language is spoken by Tamilans living in the South Pacific
    -Indian Michael Palin is a socialist emperor

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Foreṡ Post: Third Goat Explosion in 18 Months at the DMV After Ale Binge || "Unnerving" Granite Chunk Appears in Park in Xau̇mtē || Public Toilet Explodes after Armenian Tourist Flushes 15kg of Sand, Half-Eaten Birthday Cake, 19 Socks, Russian Flag, Box of Hamsters, and AK-47 || Opinion: It's Time to Ban Pastel Blue


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Postby Glatixland » Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:08 am

Cheries wrote:
Glatixland wrote:"After careful review of this proposal, Glatixland has decided to vote 'against'. While we support the preservation of native species, and recognize the importance of maintaining natural habitats, we outright refuse to cede infrastructural autonomy to any foreign body in such a direct manner.

Our concerns are borne primarily from the following passage:

All member nations are required to take action to mitigate and minimize the effects of fragmentation if the animal in question meets the guidelines and the fragmentation is caused by artificial barriers.

Approval of this proposal would mean regularly submitting our infrastructural plans to an international organization for approval. Not only would this risk a slowdown of Glatixian development by way of an unnecessary third party, but it would also compromise national security by way of mandating that military works be reported."

"Do you really think that preventing the planet from turning into a celestial Error 404 would be some sort of easy feat? Preventing the fragmentation of native species is absolutely key to keeping ecosystems in balance, which in turn massively reduces the challenge of diminishing environmental damage! For survival, sacrifices must be made. If you aren't willing to give up something to keep the world from dying off, then maybe reconsider your life choices. And even if your government was forced to submit the knowledge of a military construction, what would a nonpartisan WA committee do with a description of the construction of a military location?

~Emperor Ṫarā̇ṅıs Nērinım II, translated from Cherian


"The Jingoistic States of Glatixland firmly supports the conservation of nature, and takes habitat integrity into account when making infrastructural plans. The Glatixian Axolotl, for instance, has been brought back from the brink of extinction due to the exhaustive efforts of the National Environmental Agency. Our issue is not with the sentiment of conservation, but with the idea of allowing a foreign organization to dictate the details of current and future infrastructural endeavors. As a member nation of the World Assembly, we would be forced to comply with WAESC mandates. Given the vagueness with which the membership, regulatory structure, and decision-making process of the WAESC has been defined, we refuse to support this measure.

What happens when a WAESC auditor decides to leak Glatixian military positions to his/her home country? Is the WAESC capable of undoing that blatant compromise of our national security, or will they simply release a strongly-worded letter in condemnation of the violating auditor? The idea that an organization with regulatory abilities will somehow remain untainted by international interests is laughable.

This is not a question of environmental protection, it is a question of national security. We would happily support a version of the WAESC that provides guidelines, as well as allow WAESC audits to aid in mitigating the impact of our civilian infrastructure on the environment, but we will not sign away our security apparatus over what amounts to a pinkie promise that our secrets will remain safe."

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Postby Cheries » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:36 pm

Glatixland wrote:
Cheries wrote:"Do you really think that preventing the planet from turning into a celestial Error 404 would be some sort of easy feat? Preventing the fragmentation of native species is absolutely key to keeping ecosystems in balance, which in turn massively reduces the challenge of diminishing environmental damage! For survival, sacrifices must be made. If you aren't willing to give up something to keep the world from dying off, then maybe reconsider your life choices. And even if your government was forced to submit the knowledge of a military construction, what would a nonpartisan WA committee do with a description of the construction of a military location?

~Emperor Ṫarā̇ṅıs Nērinım II, translated from Cherian


"The Jingoistic States of Glatixland firmly supports the conservation of nature, and takes habitat integrity into account when making infrastructural plans. The Glatixian Axolotl, for instance, has been brought back from the brink of extinction due to the exhaustive efforts of the National Environmental Agency. Our issue is not with the sentiment of conservation, but with the idea of allowing a foreign organization to dictate the details of current and future infrastructural endeavors. As a member nation of the World Assembly, we would be forced to comply with WAESC mandates. Given the vagueness with which the membership, regulatory structure, and decision-making process of the WAESC has been defined, we refuse to support this measure.

What happens when a WAESC auditor decides to leak Glatixian military positions to his/her home country? Is the WAESC capable of undoing that blatant compromise of our national security, or will they simply release a strongly-worded letter in condemnation of the violating auditor? The idea that an organization with regulatory abilities will somehow remain untainted by international interests is laughable.

This is not a question of environmental protection, it is a question of national security. We would happily support a version of the WAESC that provides guidelines, as well as allow WAESC audits to aid in mitigating the impact of our civilian infrastructure on the environment, but we will not sign away our security apparatus over what amounts to a pinkie promise that our secrets will remain safe."

"If you are suggesting the WA give some sort of special exemption to militaries, rethink. Giving a pass from environmental protections to the historically most violent, irresponsible, and blatantly unchecked organisations on the planet Earth is absolutely ridiculous. If your military is somehow more valuable than the ecosystems of hundreds of nations, maybe take another look at your defense budget..."

~Emperor Ṫarā̇ṅıs Nērinım II, translated from Cherian
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    -An IE language is spoken by Tamilans living in the South Pacific
    -Indian Michael Palin is a socialist emperor

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Foreṡ Post: Third Goat Explosion in 18 Months at the DMV After Ale Binge || "Unnerving" Granite Chunk Appears in Park in Xau̇mtē || Public Toilet Explodes after Armenian Tourist Flushes 15kg of Sand, Half-Eaten Birthday Cake, 19 Socks, Russian Flag, Box of Hamsters, and AK-47 || Opinion: It's Time to Ban Pastel Blue


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Postby Cheries » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:39 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Cheries wrote:
"If you cannot appreciate the fact that life is exponentially more valuable than military intelligence, then you have no business judging others."

~Emperor Ṫarā̇ṅıs Nērinım II, translated from Cherian

Ambassador Tav: Where did you even get military intelligence in an issue about wildlife corridors? Has your delegation bothered to read dissenting opinions and see the flaws present?

"Look at the statement I had originally been referring to before your delegation retorted, and you would understand."

~Emperor Ṫarā̇ṅıs Nērinım II, translated from Cherian
-F. Dṡēro, Chief Diplomat of Tṡērıs
Our Embassies | Our Wikipage
Pro: Cats, Healthcare, Educational Equality
Against: 5-Minute Crafts telling toddlers to eat bleach[spoiler=factssss]
    Constitutional monarchy in the Pacific, east of NZ where:
    -Cows are illegal
    -Dogs are invasive
    -An IE language is spoken by Tamilans living in the South Pacific
    -Indian Michael Palin is a socialist emperor

Info:
-Basics #1
-Basics #2
-Our Leader
-Our Map
-Our Parties
Foreṡ Post: Third Goat Explosion in 18 Months at the DMV After Ale Binge || "Unnerving" Granite Chunk Appears in Park in Xau̇mtē || Public Toilet Explodes after Armenian Tourist Flushes 15kg of Sand, Half-Eaten Birthday Cake, 19 Socks, Russian Flag, Box of Hamsters, and AK-47 || Opinion: It's Time to Ban Pastel Blue


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Postby Cheries » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:39 pm

-doublepost, my apologies-
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Against: 5-Minute Crafts telling toddlers to eat bleach[spoiler=factssss]
    Constitutional monarchy in the Pacific, east of NZ where:
    -Cows are illegal
    -Dogs are invasive
    -An IE language is spoken by Tamilans living in the South Pacific
    -Indian Michael Palin is a socialist emperor

Info:
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-Our Leader
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Foreṡ Post: Third Goat Explosion in 18 Months at the DMV After Ale Binge || "Unnerving" Granite Chunk Appears in Park in Xau̇mtē || Public Toilet Explodes after Armenian Tourist Flushes 15kg of Sand, Half-Eaten Birthday Cake, 19 Socks, Russian Flag, Box of Hamsters, and AK-47 || Opinion: It's Time to Ban Pastel Blue


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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:29 pm

Cheries wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Ambassador Tav: Where did you even get military intelligence in an issue about wildlife corridors? Has your delegation bothered to read dissenting opinions and see the flaws present?

"Look at the statement I had originally been referring to before your delegation retorted, and you would understand."

~Emperor Ṫarā̇ṅıs Nērinım II, translated from Cherian

Ambassador Tav: Did your delegation print one too many statements to make it entirely redundant?
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Postby New Straits » Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:20 pm

The provisions of this draft resolution clearly impinge on the sovereign right of every NationState to make a decision about matters concerning sectors of its national economy. Voting against.
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Postby Untecna » Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:50 pm

New Straits wrote:The provisions of this draft resolution clearly impinge on the sovereign right of every NationState to make a decision about matters concerning sectors of its national economy. Voting against.

You lose some national sovereignty to make resolutions binding. Your statement here is ignorant of that.
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Chap Ven
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Postby Chap Ven » Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:21 am

Upon analysis of potential outcomes of this proposal we sadly have to vote against it.
Full surrender of autonomy in terms of construction is the only truly effective way to handle this but it also is quite a drastic measure that is bound to cause discontent among member nations, potentially causing dwindling numbers of WA membership and nullifying gain from passing it. This is especially true for projects which due to their military nature would be classified information for the member nation.
Furthermore although the idea of every nation contributing to research is a beneficial one, enforcement of it is unwise as there is risk of accidental or purposeful inclusion of bias by member nations, this is to be expected but there is no clause handling situation where WAESC data and member nation's data contradict each other, creating opening for bureaucratic deadlock through back and forth argumentation.
We commend your effort to tackle such complex issue but suggest thinking about more mild approach, even though it couldn't ever be nearly as effective on nation to nation basis our simulations suggest that more widespread acceptance would make overall benefit greater.
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Postby Glatixland » Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:11 am

Cheries wrote:
Glatixland wrote:
"The Jingoistic States of Glatixland firmly supports the conservation of nature, and takes habitat integrity into account when making infrastructural plans. The Glatixian Axolotl, for instance, has been brought back from the brink of extinction due to the exhaustive efforts of the National Environmental Agency. Our issue is not with the sentiment of conservation, but with the idea of allowing a foreign organization to dictate the details of current and future infrastructural endeavors. As a member nation of the World Assembly, we would be forced to comply with WAESC mandates. Given the vagueness with which the membership, regulatory structure, and decision-making process of the WAESC has been defined, we refuse to support this measure.

What happens when a WAESC auditor decides to leak Glatixian military positions to his/her home country? Is the WAESC capable of undoing that blatant compromise of our national security, or will they simply release a strongly-worded letter in condemnation of the violating auditor? The idea that an organization with regulatory abilities will somehow remain untainted by international interests is laughable.

This is not a question of environmental protection, it is a question of national security. We would happily support a version of the WAESC that provides guidelines, as well as allow WAESC audits to aid in mitigating the impact of our civilian infrastructure on the environment, but we will not sign away our security apparatus over what amounts to a pinkie promise that our secrets will remain safe."

"If you are suggesting the WA give some sort of special exemption to militaries, rethink. Giving a pass from environmental protections to the historically most violent, irresponsible, and blatantly unchecked organisations on the planet Earth is absolutely ridiculous. If your military is somehow more valuable than the ecosystems of hundreds of nations, maybe take another look at your defense budget..."

~Emperor Ṫarā̇ṅıs Nērinım II, translated from Cherian


"While we in Glatixland respect the Emperor's expressed sentiments, as well as his ardent commitment to conservation, we also believe that his statements fail to adequately address the nuanced aspects of the larger discussion. It is the opinion of the Glatixian government that our national security can be maintained without sacrificing the sanctity of natural ecosystems.

Unlike the Emperor, however, we do not conflate a vaguely chartered organization with some sort of all-encompassing initiative to save the planet. Our own approach to environmental protection has proven more than antiquate to mitigate pollution, encourage diverse biospheres, and otherwise protect the harmony between progress and nature. We do not require a foreign authority's mandate to protect our oceans and forests, nor will we ever ask for a third party's permission to build infrastructure in our own country."
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:14 pm

"Mitigating Artificial Fragmentation" was defeated 11,642 votes to 3,548. (23.36% support)

Petition to retcon the second word of this proposal title, I guess...? :P
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