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Postby Terra Animo » Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:48 pm

Draft #2 (Draft #1 can be seen in "spoiler")

Currency Exchange Transparency Act

Category: Regulation

Area of Effect: Consumer Protection

Strength: Mild

World Assembly,

Fearing that those wishing to exchange currency within a WA nation may be taken advantage of,

Recognizing that ambiguity surrounding the exchange of currencies allows for fraud to easily occur,

Establishes the following,

To aid in the eradication of such ambiguities, this Act officially task the International Securities and Exchange Commission (ISEC) with monitoring the market value of every commonly used currency (a distinction to be determined by the ISEC), determining an approximate value for said currencies based off of their observations, and publishing said approximate values at the conclusion of every week,

Furthermore,

Hereby mandates the following regulations,

    1. At any given location, be it virtual or physical, where the exchange of currency takes place, the value said location determines for every currency which is accepted and/or distributed must be clearly displayed, alongside the approximated value determined by the International Securities and Exchange Commission (ISEC) at the end of the previous week. This may manifest itself in many forms, but the recommended manner is the following: At a prominent location in the physical or virtual signage, declare a specific nation’s currency (preferably the nation within which the transaction is occurring in the case of physical establishments) to have a value of 1.00. Then, list all other currencies which one may convert their currency to, or from, with their value, both as determined by the money-changer and the ISEC, relative to the currency whose value is 1.00. I.e. if currency “A” is listed to have a value of .50, as determined by the money-changer, and currency “B” is listed to have a value of 2.00, as determined by the money-changer, then for every 4 “x” of currency “A,” one receives 1 “x” of currency “B” (“x” representing the name of the currency, i.e. dollar, yen, etc.)

    2.The added surcharge, or lack thereof, for said conversion must also be clearly displayed at any of the previously mentioned locations. This surcharge may manifest itself in any way deemed legal by a given nation and WA legislation, such as a flat amount taken during the transaction, a percentage taken, etc.

    3.Any individual, company, organization, or the like, including forward contract participants, must be given the option of receiving a receipt of the transaction. This receipt must include the amount and type of currency the money-changing service received, the amount and type distributed in return, and the previously mentioned surcharge (or lack thereof).

Currency Exchange Transparency Act

Category: Regulation

Area of Effect: Consumer Protection

Strength: Mild

World Assembly,

Fearing that those wishing to exchange currency within a WA nation may be taken advantage of,

Recognizing that ambiguity surrounding the exchange of currencies allows for fraud to easily occur,

Hereby mandates the following regulations,

1.At any given location, be it virtual or physical, where the exchange of currency takes place, the value of every currency which said location accepts and/or distributes must be clearly displayed. This may manifest itself in many forms, but the recommended manner is the following: At a prominent location in the physical or virtual signage, declare a specific nation’s currency (preferably the nation within which the transaction is occurring in the case of physical establishments) to have a value of 1.00, then list all other currencies which one may convert their currency to, or from, with their value relative to the currency whose value is 1.00. I.e. if currency “A” is listed to have a value of .50, and currency “B” is listed to have a value of 2.00 then for every 4 “x” of currency “A,” one receives 1 “x” of currency “B” (“x” representing the name of the currency, i.e. dollar, yen, etc.)

2.The added surcharge, or lack thereof, for said conversion must also be clearly displayed at any of the previously mentioned locations. This surcharge may manifest itself in any way deemed legal by a given nation and WA, such as a flat amount taken during the transaction, a percentage taken, etc.

3.Any individual, company, organization, or the like, must be given the option of receiving a receipt of the transaction. This receipt must include the amount and type of currency the money-changing service received, the amount and type distributed in return, and the previously mentioned surcharge (or lack thereof).
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Looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts on the draft!

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:20 pm

Category and Strength?

The added surcharge, or lack thereof, for said conversion must also be clearly displayed at any of the previously mentioned locations. This surcharge may manifest itself in any way deemed legal by a given nation and WA, such as a flat amount taken during the transaction, a percentage taken, etc.

If I say that the exchange rate is 1 GBP = 2 USD, is that a surcharge?

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Postby Terra Animo » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:34 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Category and Strength?

The added surcharge, or lack thereof, for said conversion must also be clearly displayed at any of the previously mentioned locations. This surcharge may manifest itself in any way deemed legal by a given nation and WA, such as a flat amount taken during the transaction, a percentage taken, etc.

If I say that the exchange rate is 1 GBP = 2 USD, is that a surcharge?


Sorry for not including the Category and Strength, I have now included them. With regards to the surcharge question, no, I would consider that the exchange itself. By surcharge, I mean subtracting 5% of the money one wishes to convert when calculating how much of the other currency to give, or withholding a set amount of money from every exchange. You know, as a way to profit off of the exchanges. Investopedia definition of surcharge- an extra fee, charge, or tax that is added on to the cost of a good or service, beyond the initially quoted price.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:36 pm

Terra Animo wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Category and Strength?

The added surcharge, or lack thereof, for said conversion must also be clearly displayed at any of the previously mentioned locations. This surcharge may manifest itself in any way deemed legal by a given nation and WA, such as a flat amount taken during the transaction, a percentage taken, etc.

If I say that the exchange rate is 1 GBP = 2 USD, is that a surcharge?


Sorry for not including the Category and Strength, I have now included them. With regards to the surcharge question, no, I would consider that the exchange itself. By surcharge, I mean subtracting 5% of the money one wishes to convert when calculating how much of the other currency to give, or withholding a set amount of money from every exchange. You know, as a way to profit off of the exchanges. Investopedia definition of surcharge- an extra fee, charge, or tax that is added on to the cost of a good or service, beyond the initially quoted price.

Okay, so if I say the exchange rate is 1 GBP = 2 USD, I'm pretty clearly making a killing on arbitrage at this exchange rate. Is it a surcharge?

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Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Terra Animo wrote:
Sorry for not including the Category and Strength, I have now included them. With regards to the surcharge question, no, I would consider that the exchange itself. By surcharge, I mean subtracting 5% of the money one wishes to convert when calculating how much of the other currency to give, or withholding a set amount of money from every exchange. You know, as a way to profit off of the exchanges. Investopedia definition of surcharge- an extra fee, charge, or tax that is added on to the cost of a good or service, beyond the initially quoted price.

Okay, so if I say the exchange rate is 1 GBP = 2 USD, I'm pretty clearly making a killing on arbitrage at this exchange rate. Is it a surcharge?

The resolution's aim seems to be to compel currency exchanges to post exchange rates and surcharges in prominent locations. I don't want to speak for the author, but such a ridiculous exchange rate would still have to be posted in a prominent location, just like a surcharge would, under the proposed rules.

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Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Terra Animo wrote:
Sorry for not including the Category and Strength, I have now included them. With regards to the surcharge question, no, I would consider that the exchange itself. By surcharge, I mean subtracting 5% of the money one wishes to convert when calculating how much of the other currency to give, or withholding a set amount of money from every exchange. You know, as a way to profit off of the exchanges. Investopedia definition of surcharge- an extra fee, charge, or tax that is added on to the cost of a good or service, beyond the initially quoted price.

Okay, so if I say the exchange rate is 1 GBP = 2 USD, I'm pretty clearly making a killing on arbitrage at this exchange rate. Is it a surcharge?


While I get where you are coming from, it would not fall under the surcharge clause. How this would likely play out in a "real" example is that some exchange companies would advertise "no surcharge!" but have rates like the one above, but others would advertise low rates, but have high surcharges (which would have to be "clearly displayed" of course.) This may cause concern for some, but at the end of the day the consumer still has the right to "shop around," if you will, for the best rate, an endeavor which could be done easily and freely since the rates and surcharges must be "clearly displayed."

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Postby Terra Animo » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:50 pm

Insidium wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Okay, so if I say the exchange rate is 1 GBP = 2 USD, I'm pretty clearly making a killing on arbitrage at this exchange rate. Is it a surcharge?

The resolution's aim seems to be to compel currency exchanges to post exchange rates and surcharges in prominent locations. I don't want to speak for the author, but such a ridiculous exchange rate would still have to be posted in a prominent location, just like a surcharge would, under the proposed rules.


Precisely!

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Insidium wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Okay, so if I say the exchange rate is 1 GBP = 2 USD, I'm pretty clearly making a killing on arbitrage at this exchange rate. Is it a surcharge?

The resolution's aim seems to be to compel currency exchanges to post exchange rates and surcharges in prominent locations. I don't want to speak for the author, but such a ridiculous exchange rate would still have to be posted in a prominent location, just like a surcharge would, under the proposed rules.

If the point of the resolution is to do consumer protection, posting a ridiculous exchange rate without posting the current market rate does not actually protect much of a consumer. Similarly, consumers could fall into the trap of "free" when one money exchange says they charge no fees (but offer worse rates) while the other one charges fees but better rates. Consumers starving at some airport are going to look like this, not plug the entire pricing scheme for both money-changers into an Excel spreadsheet.

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Postby Insidium » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:53 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Insidium wrote:The resolution's aim seems to be to compel currency exchanges to post exchange rates and surcharges in prominent locations. I don't want to speak for the author, but such a ridiculous exchange rate would still have to be posted in a prominent location, just like a surcharge would, under the proposed rules.

If the point of the resolution is to do consumer protection, posting a ridiculous exchange rate without posting the current market rate does not actually protect much of a consumer. Similarly, consumers could fall into the trap of "free" when one money exchange says they charge no fees (but offer worse rates) while the other one charges fees but better rates. Consumers starving at some airport are going to look like this, not plug the entire pricing scheme for both money-changers into an Excel spreadsheet.

You make great points, maybe the author can address them.

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Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Insidium wrote:The resolution's aim seems to be to compel currency exchanges to post exchange rates and surcharges in prominent locations. I don't want to speak for the author, but such a ridiculous exchange rate would still have to be posted in a prominent location, just like a surcharge would, under the proposed rules.

If the point of the resolution is to do consumer protection, posting a ridiculous exchange rate without posting the current market rate does not actually protect much of a consumer. Similarly, consumers could fall into the trap of "free" when one money exchange says they charge no fees (but offer worse rates) while the other one charges fees but better rates. Consumers starving at some airport are going to look like this, not plug the entire pricing scheme for both money-changers into an Excel spreadsheet.


You make an excellent point, which leads me to an idea I tinkered with for about 15 minutes but decided to scrap, but after hearing your thoughts now have a better idea on how to word it. Maybe I could include something resembling the following: (this act) Hereby creates the Currency Exchange Bureau, this Bureau is tasked with monitoring the market and determining the average value of every commonly used (could omit commonly used but that would create quite an arduous task) currency at the conclusion of every business day… I could then include somewhere in the document that every place of exchange must “clearly provide” the average market value of each currency as according the Currency Exchange Bureau estimation at the end of the previous business day (relative to whatever currency the establishment has assigned a value of 1.00). Thoughts?
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Terra Animo wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:If the point of the resolution is to do consumer protection, posting a ridiculous exchange rate without posting the current market rate does not actually protect much of a consumer. Similarly, consumers could fall into the trap of "free" when one money exchange says they charge no fees (but offer worse rates) while the other one charges fees but better rates. Consumers starving at some airport are going to look like this, not plug the entire pricing scheme for both money-changers into an Excel spreadsheet.


You make an excellent point, which leads me to an idea I tinkered with for about 15 minutes but decided to scrap, but after hearing your thoughts now have a better idea on how to word it. Maybe I could include something resembling the following: (this act) Hereby creates the Currency Exchange Bureau, this Bureau is tasked with monitoring the market and determining the average value of every commonly used (could omit commonly used but that would create quite an arduous task) currency at the conclusion of every business day… I could then include somewhere in the document that every place of exchange must “clearly provide” the average market value of each currency as according the Currency Exchange Bureau estimation at the end of the previous business day (relative to whatever currency the establishment has assigned a value of 1.00). Thoughts?

You might want to use the ISEC, an existing World Assembly committee.

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Postby Terra Animo » Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:23 pm

Insidium wrote:
Terra Animo wrote:
You make an excellent point, which leads me to an idea I tinkered with for about 15 minutes but decided to scrap, but after hearing your thoughts now have a better idea on how to word it. Maybe I could include something resembling the following: (this act) Hereby creates the Currency Exchange Bureau, this Bureau is tasked with monitoring the market and determining the average value of every commonly used (could omit commonly used but that would create quite an arduous task) currency at the conclusion of every business day… I could then include somewhere in the document that every place of exchange must “clearly provide” the average market value of each currency as according the Currency Exchange Bureau estimation at the end of the previous business day (relative to whatever currency the establishment has assigned a value of 1.00). Thoughts?

You might want to use the ISEC, an existing World Assembly committee.


If legal, I like the idea. But I’m fairly certain I can’t do that because of the “house of cards” clause the the GA rules.

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Terra Animo wrote:
Insidium wrote:You might want to use the ISEC, an existing World Assembly committee.


If legal, I like the idea. But I’m fairly certain I can’t do that because of the “house of cards” clause the the GA rules.

It’s legal to reuse existing committees. Per the rules: “A committee continues to exist after its resolution is repealed if it's used in another resolution.”

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Postby Terra Animo » Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:18 pm

Goobergunchia wrote:
Terra Animo wrote:

If legal, I like the idea. But I’m fairly certain I can’t do that because of the “house of cards” clause the the GA rules.

It’s legal to reuse existing committees. Per the rules: “A committee continues to exist after its resolution is repealed if it's used in another resolution.”

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Good to know! Thanks so much.

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Draft #2 has been posted, looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts!
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Terra Animo wrote:... manor ...

Might want to correct that typo before you submit it.

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Insidium wrote:
Terra Animo wrote:... manor ...

Might want to correct that typo before you submit it.

I appreciate it. Fixed.

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Most currency transfers are forward contracts. How would you manage that?

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Postby Terra Animo » Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:14 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Most currency transfers are forward contracts. How would you manage that?


Forward contracts and their terms shall remain privatized. The transparency regarding said contracts amongst the participating parties should be furthered by the requirements of clearly posted rates, and forward contract participants shall too be offered a receipt (a clause I will insert.) But yeah, forward contracts shall remain a private contract.

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Terra Animo wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Okay, so if I say the exchange rate is 1 GBP = 2 USD, I'm pretty clearly making a killing on arbitrage at this exchange rate. Is it a surcharge?


While I get where you are coming from, it would not fall under the surcharge clause. How this would likely play out in a "real" example is that some exchange companies would advertise "no surcharge!" but have rates like the one above, but others would advertise low rates, but have high surcharges (which would have to be "clearly displayed" of course.) This may cause concern for some, but at the end of the day the consumer still has the right to "shop around," if you will, for the best rate, an endeavor which could be done easily and freely since the rates and surcharges must be "clearly displayed."
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Bears Armed wrote:
Terra Animo wrote:
While I get where you are coming from, it would not fall under the surcharge clause. How this would likely play out in a "real" example is that some exchange companies would advertise "no surcharge!" but have rates like the one above, but others would advertise low rates, but have high surcharges (which would have to be "clearly displayed" of course.) This may cause concern for some, but at the end of the day the consumer still has the right to "shop around," if you will, for the best rate, an endeavor which could be done easily and freely since the rates and surcharges must be "clearly displayed."
OOC: Unless a nation's only allowed currency exchanges (outside of the black market) are a government-controlled monopoly...


Very valid… but I simply don’t see anyway around government-only controlled currency exchanges, as any legislation forbidding such seems like overstepping WA bounds. I think that this act will just have to focus on countries which do not fall under that umbrella… but at least the citizens of said nations would see how much the estimated values actually are, which may marginally deter nations of government-only controlled exchanges from charging extreme rates… Just no way around it in my eyes, but hey, any nation extreme enough to monopolize all exchanges would likely also be opposed to already passed WA legislation, meaning that the amount of nations who would theoretically circumvent this legislation in the manner you describe would likely be few, in my estimation at least.

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Postby Terra Animo » Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:43 am

Nearing submission now, any thoughts on the act, even if they are as simple as “I like this,” are welcome!

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This draft is two-and-a-half days old. Why do you want to submit this so early? :P
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Postby Terra Animo » Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:54 am

Tinhampton wrote:This draft is two-and-a-half days old. Why do you want to submit this so early? :P


A mix of moderate impatience, and a mild desire to submit while there are no legal proposals so it will have full attention. I simply see very few hypothetical changes which could need to be made, I’m just kind of ready to submit and let the chips fall where they may. However, let this message not be used against me. I have put large amounts of effort into this proposal and it has been thoroughly contemplated. I wish not for it to be opposed simply on the basis of its new-ness. Its creation has been thorough, and believe the act itself displays such.
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