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Postby Antelen » Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:24 am

Gun Control Act

The World Assembly,

Acknowledging that guns are necessary in cases of hunting or self-defense,

Yet noting that if guns are distributed to everyone above the age of consent, the risks of gun violence are sadly high,

Hoping that gun violence will be prevented when there is some sort of gun control,

Hereby enacts as follows:

1. All WA member nations can enact laws that legalize or prohibit guns, but if legalizing guns, a WA member nation shall pass laws enacting gun control, ranging from limited to restrictive.

2. All WA member nations shall grant either a gun ownership ID, a permit, or a license to people owning guns with requirements.

3. The basic requirements for gun control in all WA member nations are:

Must be older than the age of consent (ranging from 16 to 21 years old, depending on the WA member nation)

Must be psychologically and mentally healthy in the moment of being granted a license, ID or a permit, and in the moment of purchasing firearms or handguns.

4. All WA member nations can either keep these basic requirements or restrict the requirements listed above.

5. If a person violates the gun control law in a nation, the government of that nation shall punish that person depending on how big the offence is.

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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:29 am

GA#399 "Responsibility in Transferring Arms," section 7; plus GA#299 "Legal Competence," section 4.

Even if GA#399 and GA#299 did not exist, I would still be opposed to this proposal.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:32 am

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:38 am

"Were this not illegal, I am unsure how our legal possession of firearms without requiring permits affects the citizens of your nation in any negative fashion. This is virtue signaling because your nation has an antipathy against firearms, not an attempt to regulate an international issue. The C.D.S.P. will oppose any attempts to implement domestic gun control laws that are not demonstrably international in character and effect."

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Postby Antelen » Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:42 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:"Were this not illegal, I am unsure how our legal possession of firearms without requiring permits affects the citizens of your nation in any negative fashion. This is virtue signaling because your nation has an antipathy against firearms, not an attempt to regulate an international issue. The C.D.S.P. will oppose any attempts to implement domestic gun control laws that are not demonstrably international in character and effect."


The permit makes sure that the gun buyer has not any mental illnesses or any other things that could obstruct the buyer from using handguns or firearms consciously.
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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:45 am

Antelen wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Were this not illegal, I am unsure how our legal possession of firearms without requiring permits affects the citizens of your nation in any negative fashion. This is virtue signaling because your nation has an antipathy against firearms, not an attempt to regulate an international issue. The C.D.S.P. will oppose any attempts to implement domestic gun control laws that are not demonstrably international in character and effect."


The permit makes sure that the gun buyer has not any mental illnesses or any other things that could obstruct the buyer from using handguns or firearms consciously.

I have explained above that your proposal is irrepairably illegal for contradicting at least two resolutions, no matter how many conditions you want to attach to the issuing of firearm permits.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:45 am

Antelen wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Were this not illegal, I am unsure how our legal possession of firearms without requiring permits affects the citizens of your nation in any negative fashion. This is virtue signaling because your nation has an antipathy against firearms, not an attempt to regulate an international issue. The C.D.S.P. will oppose any attempts to implement domestic gun control laws that are not demonstrably international in character and effect."


The permit makes sure that the gun buyer has not any mental illnesses or any other things that could obstruct the buyer from using handguns or firearms consciously.

"The presence of any mental illness alone is not sufficient to deny a person a firearm. Mental illnesses affect everyone differently, and many types and variations exist that do not entail homicidal or suicidal tendencies; nor do they hamper the safe operation of a firearm."
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Postby Antelen » Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:50 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Antelen wrote:
The permit makes sure that the gun buyer has not any mental illnesses or any other things that could obstruct the buyer from using handguns or firearms consciously.

"The presence of any mental illness alone is not sufficient to deny a person a firearm. Mental illnesses affect everyone differently, and many types and variations exist that do not entail homicidal or suicidal tendencies; nor do they hamper the safe operation of a firearm."


Sigh... Ok. I just have another explanation for this, but I won't tell you, for it has been illegal.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:57 am

Antelen wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:"The presence of any mental illness alone is not sufficient to deny a person a firearm. Mental illnesses affect everyone differently, and many types and variations exist that do not entail homicidal or suicidal tendencies; nor do they hamper the safe operation of a firearm."


Sigh... Ok. I just have another explanation for this, but I won't tell you, for it has been illegal.

OOC: In the future, please read through the list of passed General Assembly Resolutions before drafting something like this.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:10 am

Antelen wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Were this not illegal, I am unsure how our legal possession of firearms without requiring permits affects the citizens of your nation in any negative fashion. This is virtue signaling because your nation has an antipathy against firearms, not an attempt to regulate an international issue. The C.D.S.P. will oppose any attempts to implement domestic gun control laws that are not demonstrably international in character and effect."


The permit makes sure that the gun buyer has not any mental illnesses or any other things that could obstruct the buyer from using handguns or firearms consciously.

This does not change the purely domestic nature of this proposal. You have made a warrant why gun ownership of the mentally handicapped is bad, but not why it is relevant to the International Community.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:29 am

Antelen wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:"The presence of any mental illness alone is not sufficient to deny a person a firearm. Mental illnesses affect everyone differently, and many types and variations exist that do not entail homicidal or suicidal tendencies; nor do they hamper the safe operation of a firearm."


Sigh... Ok. I just have another explanation for this, but I won't tell you, for it has been illegal.

Not a good attempt and not well-written. Plus, it duplicates previous resolutions as Tinhampton has shown you.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:26 pm

It is just a badge hunt at this point and thus any drafts by this author should be treated as such until conclusively proven otherwise.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:48 pm

Wayneactia wrote:It is just a badge hunt at this point and thus any drafts by this author should be treated as such until conclusively proven otherwise.

Concerns about badge hunting died when UFOC was DOSd.

Literally nobody cares whether a new player wants the badge anymore. New players are allowed to be excited to participate.

Antelen, you should ignore any accusation of badge hunting. Nobody but Wayne cares about that. Keep drafting so long as you have fun.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:44 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:It is just a badge hunt at this point and thus any drafts by this author should be treated as such until conclusively proven otherwise.

Concerns about badge hunting died when UFOC was DOSd.

Literally nobody cares whether a new player wants the badge anymore. New players are allowed to be excited to participate.

Antelen, you should ignore any accusation of badge hunting. Nobody but Wayne cares about that. Keep drafting so long as you have fun.

So far, the OP has failed to make any good quality draft and trying to go for as many as possible. I don't believe they're badge hunting, but they should definitely familiarize with the GA more to get a better sense of how things are done here.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:05 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:Concerns about badge hunting died when UFOC was DOSd.

Literally nobody cares whether a new player wants the badge anymore. New players are allowed to be excited to participate.

Antelen, you should ignore any accusation of badge hunting. Nobody but Wayne cares about that. Keep drafting so long as you have fun.

So far, the OP has failed to make any good quality draft and trying to go for as many as possible. I don't believe they're badge hunting, but they should definitely familiarize with the GA more to get a better sense of how things are done here.

Sure. Never argued otherwise.

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Postby WayNeacTia » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:27 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:It is just a badge hunt at this point and thus any drafts by this author should be treated as such until conclusively proven otherwise.

Concerns about badge hunting died when UFOC was DOSd.

Literally nobody cares whether a new player wants the badge anymore. New players are allowed to be excited to participate.

Antelen, you should ignore any accusation of badge hunting. Nobody but Wayne cares about that. Keep drafting so long as you have fun.

You really do enjoy chumming the waters don't you?
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:07 pm

Wayneactia wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:Concerns about badge hunting died when UFOC was DOSd.

Literally nobody cares whether a new player wants the badge anymore. New players are allowed to be excited to participate.

Antelen, you should ignore any accusation of badge hunting. Nobody but Wayne cares about that. Keep drafting so long as you have fun.

You really do enjoy chumming the waters don't you?

Ooc: it says something deeply disappointing that you think encouraging players to participate is chumming the water.

Antelen is clearly excited to participate. Who cares why? What possible reason is there for us to gatekeep? This is a game. The point is to play. For God's sake, let him play.

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Postby Sincluda » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:13 pm

OOC: To Antelen: Don't worry about Wayne, he is like this plenty of the time, and it doesn't represent the whole community. Please understand that you are welcome here and I hope that you remain involved.

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The resources stickied to the top of the GA forum page are really useful to determine whether your idea is compatible with the rules and existing law. Of course, a legal proposal isn't necessarily a good one, but it's important to clear the legality hurdle before we get around to quality, since an illegal proposal is illegal no matter how well it is written.
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Postby Hulldom » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:33 pm

Sincluda wrote:OOC: To Antelen: Don't worry about Wayne, he is like this plenty of the time, and it doesn't represent the whole community. Please understand that you are welcome here and I hope that you remain involved.

Big ups to this. No matter what some people may say, we really do like to see new people get involved and stick around. You may not hit gold the first time or even the five hundredth time, but if this is something you find fun, we'll try to support you throughout your journey.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:21 pm

Hulldom wrote:
Sincluda wrote:OOC: To Antelen: Don't worry about Wayne, he is like this plenty of the time, and it doesn't represent the whole community. Please understand that you are welcome here and I hope that you remain involved.

Big ups to this. No matter what some people may say, we really do like to see new people get involved and stick around. You may not hit gold the first time or even the five hundredth time, but if this is something you find fun, we'll try to support you throughout your journey.

Indeed. I encourage continued GA drafting!
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:41 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:You really do enjoy chumming the waters don't you?

Ooc: it says something deeply disappointing that you think encouraging players to participate is chumming the water.

Antelen is clearly excited to participate. Who cares why? What possible reason is there for us to gatekeep? This is a game. The point is to play. For God's sake, let him play.

I would love nothing more than for a new author that understands and attempts to follow the rules joining the GA authorship club. When someone shows up and decides to shotgun as much shot against the wall as possible to see what sticks, that annoys me, especially when they have been pointed to the rules and passed resoultions thread multiple times. I am not trying to discourage someone from participating, I am hoping they will learn the ropes and start passing resoultions that are well thought out. Also you can drop the UFOC shit anytime now. We had a discussion about this already and it is now starting to become annoying. If you plan on making an accustion, either make it or shove it. The choice is yours.

Sorry for jacking your thread Antelen.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:54 pm

Hulldom wrote:
Sincluda wrote:OOC: To Antelen: Don't worry about Wayne, he is like this plenty of the time, and it doesn't represent the whole community. Please understand that you are welcome here and I hope that you remain involved.

Big ups to this. No matter what some people may say, we really do like to see new people get involved and stick around. You may not hit gold the first time or even the five hundredth time, but if this is something you find fun, we'll try to support you throughout your journey.

Basically this draft, like the others the OP has done, lacks a lot of substance and duplicates previous resolutions. I appreciate them drafting since it's a start and allows more experienced players in the GA to gauge the draft and give good feedback. And yes, the GA community is receptive to new and aspiring authors, provided they look at the resources they've been directed to and make a good effort and listen to feedback.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:59 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:Ooc: it says something deeply disappointing that you think encouraging players to participate is chumming the water.

Antelen is clearly excited to participate. Who cares why? What possible reason is there for us to gatekeep? This is a game. The point is to play. For God's sake, let him play.

I would love nothing more than for a new author that understands and attempts to follow the rules joining the GA authorship club. When someone shows up and decides to shotgun as much shot against the wall as possible to see what sticks, that annoys me, especially when they have been pointed to the rules and passed resoultions thread multiple times. I am not trying to discourage someone from participating, I am hoping they will learn the ropes and start passing resoultions that are well thought out. Also you can drop the UFOC shit anytime now. We had a discussion about this already and it is now starting to become annoying. If you plan on making an accustion, either make it or shove it. The choice is yours.

Sorry for jacking your thread Antelen.


Accusations of badgehunts aren't attempts to get players to follow the rules. It's an attempt to dissuade somebody from playing. You use that term explicitly and repeatedly. Badgehunting attacks motivation, not method, and is therefore entirely irrelevant to the question of bad drafting praxis.

I didn't accuse you of anything. I gave context for the response. The last player to care about badgehunting was UFOC, and that was back before he was DOSd. You asked specifically that I not accuse you if this via TG and I am respecting your sensitivity. Because you asked and the GA is a better place than it was. That is not, in any way, an accusation. If you think deliberately respecting your wishes is actionable, I invite you to file a report with the mods.

The GA has a learning curve like a rocket trajectory. We, as members of the community, have an obligation to new players to be at least not unhelpful. We need to be better do we don't fall into the patterns of bullying and abusing new players like used to be so popular. The change in attitude here has brought us a ton of activity. The community reputation is improving every day. We owe it to ourselves to be better then we were.
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:06 pm

OOC: I confess I've never understood the rancor against "badgehunting." If they get the badge, that means they've produced a resolution that enough people thought would be good for the GA to actually get it enacted, thereby generating game activity. And if it's Bitely and World Space Authority, that's on us for not communicating well with voters.

The only reason "they just want the badge" would be a valid inference to attack the motivation is in the case of plagiarism - which is what someone does if they want the reward without doing the work. But actually plagiarizing something is far, far worse than simply wanting a reward. This particular reward is rewarded for actually creating a resolution, which is the entire point of the game.

If someone misjudges the amount of work it takes to pass a resolution, that's not something to denigrate them for. Either they see it through or they don't; in neither case is there anything for GA players to shit on them for.
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