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[DRAFT] Repeal "Read the Resolution Act"

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[DRAFT] Repeal "Read the Resolution Act"

Postby Great Algerstonia » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:07 am

The General Assembly,

Commending Resolution GA #122 for attempting to resolve the issue of nations voting on a whim on proposals in the General Assembly without having knowledge of it's contents;

Concerned, however, that there exists loopholes to this resolution that makes certain species and/or countries not have to comply with this resolutions, such as
  • Certain species not having the ability of sight, which renders them incapable of reading anything, much less a World Assembly resolution;
  • Species where their ability of sight is inadequate for reading any form of text, which again renders them incapable of reading World Assembly resolutions;
  • Species and/or countries that do not have a written language and thus do not even know how to read;
  • Countries where none or a vast minority of the population knows how to read, and that in countries where such few people know how to read, there are far more pressing jobs for literate citizens to be doing and that they cannot afford having someone that knows how to read to be reading World Assembly resolutions;
  • Countries that are run by robots, which are nonsapient and thus are unable to comply with the resolution's mandate of a sapient employee;

Noting that not only is this an exploitable loophole for the above species/countries, this is a loophole that cannot be rectified and thus imposes brutal fines on nations that cannot possibly comply with the standards of this resolution;

Further noting that said countries' citizens pay taxes for a completely redundant and worthless office that does literally nothing to help their country;

Hereby repeals Resolution No. 122 "Read the Resolution Act"
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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:51 pm

Nations could easily get around this massive RP wank "issue" by hiring someone from a different species to read the proposal for them.
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Postby Goobergunchia » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:04 pm

Does the ambassador from Great Algerstonia find use of the "General Assembly Resolutions On Tape" library inadequate for compliance with the targeted resolution?

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Postby WayNeacTia » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:49 pm

Badge hunting at its finest.
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:39 am

"Ha ha ha! A most excellent jest, ambassador! Splendid, I say! However, for decorum's sake you really should read joke proposals in the chamber devoted to them - we meet down the hall on Thursdays, to get out of General Secretary Gratwick's spoken word nights. And you do want to get out of General Secretary Gratwick's spoken word nights. Believe me, sir."


OOC: Criticism below, in the case that you're serious about this. OOC for what I hope are obvious reasons.

Great Algerstonia wrote:The General Assembly,

Commending Resolution GA #122 for attempting to resolve the issue of nations voting on a whim on proposals in the General Assembly without having knowledge of it's contents;

Concerned, however, that there exists loopholes to this resolution that makes certain species and/or countries not have to comply with this resolutions, such as
  • Certain species not having the ability of sight, which renders them incapable of reading anything, much less a World Assembly resolution;
  • Species where their ability of sight is inadequate for reading any form of text, which again renders them incapable of reading World Assembly resolutions;

Blind people can read just fine, actually. Written language is written language, whether you see ink marks on paper, feel indentations on clay tablets, or taste patches of wood stuck to iron plates. And if you have to counter this by making a puppet nation whose people only have smell and hearing but not the other three senses, that means the argument itself is bunk. I have a relatively high tolerance for RP wankery, but this is too much.

But even if that weren't true, why do you assume that resolutions are unavailable in audio format? This is not a reason to repeal anything (or rather, if it is a reason to repeal this, then you need to get your priorities straight and start repealing the various laws of warfare, because after all a species that can't see can't be expected to ascertain the difference between legitimate uniformed targets and noncombatants at any kind of distance, now, can they?).


  • Species and/or countries that do not have a written language and thus do not even know how to read;

  • Again with the RP-wank, but this time even more egregious. Without written language nobody can be expected to abide by any agreement more complex than "That side of the river is yours and this side is ours," let alone something like COCR.


  • Countries where none or a vast minority of the population knows how to read, and that in countries where such few people know how to read, there are far more pressing jobs for literate citizens to be doing and that they cannot afford having someone that knows how to read to be reading World Assembly resolutions;

  • A government that cannot afford to understand the terms of laws it agrees to abide by should not be a member of the lawmaking body in the first place. This is not a problem with the resolution, this is a sideways issue that you could dredge up for just about any resolution.



  • Countries that are run by robots, which are nonsapient and thus are unable to comply with the resolution's mandate of a sapient employee;

  • Noting that not only is this an exploitable loophole for the above species/countries, this is a loophole that cannot be rectified and thus imposes brutal fines on nations that cannot possibly comply with the standards of this resolution;

    :roll: If a country is run by nonsapient robots, how can it function as a society? This is well into the realm of the absurd now.





    Barring a substantial rewrite, I have to think this is illegal as Honest Mistake*. The scenarios you bring up are lurid fantasies, which are entirely unrelated to anything the resolution is talking about. I can imagine there might be good faith arguments to repeal #122, but they are not of this type.

    *Yes, we really ought to call it something else, but that's not a discussion for this thread
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    Postby Great Algerstonia » Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:47 am

    Wayneactia wrote:Badge hunting at its finest.

    Post count inflation at its finest
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    Postby WayNeacTia » Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:00 pm

    Great Algerstonia wrote:
    Wayneactia wrote:Badge hunting at its finest.

    Post count inflation at its finest

    I could care less about my post count. You on the other hand seem to be chasing badges here and in the Security Council at a fairly frenetic rate.
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    Postby Willtechia » Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:07 pm

    Great Algerstonia wrote:The General Assembly,

    Commending Resolution GA #122 for attempting to resolve the issue of nations voting on a whim on proposals in the General Assembly without having knowledge of it's contents;

    Concerned, however, that there exists loopholes to this resolution that makes certain species and/or countries not have to comply with this resolutions, such as
    • Certain species not having the ability of sight, which renders them incapable of reading anything, much less a World Assembly resolution;
    • Species where their ability of sight is inadequate for reading any form of text, which again renders them incapable of reading World Assembly resolutions;
    • Species and/or countries that do not have a written language and thus do not even know how to read;
    • Countries where none or a vast minority of the population knows how to read, and that in countries where such few people know how to read, there are far more pressing jobs for literate citizens to be doing and that they cannot afford having someone that knows how to read to be reading World Assembly resolutions;
    • Countries that are run by robots, which are nonsapient and thus are unable to comply with the resolution's mandate of a sapient employee;

    Noting that not only is this an exploitable loophole for the above species/countries, this is a loophole that cannot be rectified and thus imposes brutal fines on nations that cannot possibly comply with the standards of this resolution;

    Further noting that said countries' citizens pay taxes for a completely redundant and worthless office that does literally nothing to help their country;

    Hereby repeals Resolution No. 122 "Read the Resolution Act"


    There is a seperate thread for joke proposals. Go post this there.
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    Postby Great Algerstonia » Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:03 pm

    Wayneactia wrote:
    Great Algerstonia wrote:Post count inflation at its finest

    I could care less about my post count. You on the other hand seem to be chasing badges here and in the Security Council at a fairly frenetic rate.

    Good to hear
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    Postby Desmosthenes and Burke » Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:28 pm

    Does the, and we use this term loosely, honorable representative of Algerstonia intend to attempt further drafting on this truly abysmal sanitary napkin or shall we assume that sniping with the, and again we use this term most loosely, honorable representative of Waryneactia represent the height of what might be aspired to herein? We are rather late for the Opera, after all.
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    Postby Texkentuck » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:57 am

    This proposal should be repealed.....See or Can't see/hear or can't hear. One of many WA proposals which are up in the 1% category of goofy....

    How about a replacement for a world initiative towards people who struggle in education or an initiative to help the deaf and blind.....

    We support the Repeal.....

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