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Sincluda
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Postby Sincluda » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:48 pm

Texkentuck wrote:
Sincluda wrote:"I am positive that WA membership is down because the founding of new nations is down, and that GAR#499 is not the reason behind it."


Well duh..........................T H E W A IS NOT DIPLOMATIC............ It's been said by nation that is like a dictatorship by the majority for that reason. So they don't bother with it..... 8,000 nations probably vote in the WA out how many nations a lot more active.....

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Postby Texkentuck » Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:26 pm

:) 8) :eyebrow:
We do know that the WA acts more like a nations congressional majority than an international order organization. Looks like a world assembly organization but really it's a congressional body ruling the interpretation of each nations constitution. The WA is striking at the core of fundamental belief systems of nations in regards to life and the pursuit of happiness...

We've made some statements and we will leave it here. Texkentuck hopes to see a proposal that doesn't disgrace small majority of nations constitutions....Their should be a proposal that is for embracing each nations constitution...Some of these proposals such as this strikes at the core of there constitution. Funding or defunding to make the world better doesn't....Some proposals may be a violation of citizens and there rights based upon their constitution. Unlike most proposals it's not constitutional such as this issue....

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Sincluda
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Postby Sincluda » Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:36 pm

Texkentuck wrote::) 8) :eyebrow:
We do know that the WA acts more like a nations congressional majority than an international order organization. Looks like a world assembly organization but really it's a congressional body ruling the interpretation of each nations constitution. The WA is striking at the core of fundamental belief systems of nations in regards to life and the pursuit of happiness...

We've made some statements and we will leave it here. Texkentuck hopes to see a proposal that doesn't disgrace small majority of nations constitutions....Their should be a proposal that is for embracing each nations constitution...Some of these proposals such as this strikes at the core of there constitution. Funding or defunding to make the world better doesn't....Some proposals may be a violation of citizens and there rights based upon their constitution. Unlike most proposals it's not constitutional such as this issue....

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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Araraukar » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:00 am

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:17 am

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"Hr'rmm.
"in the interests of
Freedom of Conscience, still "No"."


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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:24 am

Texkentuck wrote::) 8) :eyebrow:
We do know that the WA acts more like a nations congressional majority than an international order organization. Looks like a world assembly organization but really it's a congressional body ruling the interpretation of each nations constitution. The WA is striking at the core of fundamental belief systems of nations in regards to life and the pursuit of happiness...

We've made some statements and we will leave it here. Texkentuck hopes to see a proposal that doesn't disgrace small majority of nations constitutions....Their should be a proposal that is for embracing each nations constitution...Some of these proposals such as this strikes at the core of there constitution. Funding or defunding to make the world better doesn't....Some proposals may be a violation of citizens and there rights based upon their constitution. Unlike most proposals it's not constitutional such as this issue....

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Quebecshire » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:36 am

OOC: Thanks to everyone commenting for feedback, and to those RPing, hope you're having fun with it lol.

Syberis and I haven't forgotten, I've just been sidetracked. We will hopefully make some revisions later on, including broadening the scope and doing some rewording. Maybe even today... Thanks!

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Texkentuck
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Postby Texkentuck » Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:23 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Texkentuck wrote::) 8) :eyebrow:
We do know that the WA acts more like a nations congressional majority than an international order organization. Looks like a world assembly organization but really it's a congressional body ruling the interpretation of each nations constitution. The WA is striking at the core of fundamental belief systems of nations in regards to life and the pursuit of happiness...

We've made some statements and we will leave it here. Texkentuck hopes to see a proposal that doesn't disgrace small majority of nations constitutions....Their should be a proposal that is for embracing each nations constitution...Some of these proposals such as this strikes at the core of there constitution. Funding or defunding to make the world better doesn't....Some proposals may be a violation of citizens and there rights based upon their constitution. Unlike most proposals it's not constitutional such as this issue....

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Texkentuck

"National constitutions, for those nations that have them, are subordinate to WA law. It's exceedingly odd that you hold those out as remotely relevant, ambassador. It's even more odd that you think the World Assembly acts undemocratically when it operates on a majority rules voting system, participation in which is entirely voluntary."


This proposal literally strikes at the existence of a nation and nations that are in the WA have a constitution that entitles citizens to life. The WA ignores that through extreme measures in proposals so much that atleast 3 proposal would have to be removed for a pro-life pro-constitution proposal. Yes, it's voluntarily the choice to join the WA but who would want to if it strikes at the core of ignoring a core principle of nations constitutions. Yes, it's majority rule but there should be respect of the minority opinion of this WA that such issues are left of to individual nations. A proposal should be put in to place for such issues of life....Or this WA is just more appresive than needs to be because the issue of life matters is in the constitution of minority nations....That goes for the issue of the death penalty as well...Our nation is pro-life and anti-death penalty. We only allow abortions if the doctor makes a reporting explaining the reasoning for the abortion of the mothers uterus or life or life of the child is in total jeopardy. We won't let a growing child not exist when there is no form of total jeopardy. More so that a doctor is forced to do something that isn't a normal medical practice...

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:44 pm

Texkentuck wrote:<snip>


"What in the holy names of the gods are you blathering about?"

"Your nation surrendered its right to absolute sovereignty when it joined the World Assembly. If the heinous crimes you're boasting about are all true, then your nation is in severe violation of two separate resolutions, and crippling economic sanctions are no doubt being drawn up as we speak. If your country cannot handle the liberties and freedoms given to adult women by law to all World Assembly member states' inhabitants, that is not a problem with the World Assembly, it is a problem with your primitive hellhole of a country. Your ramblings have no bearing whatsoever on the debate at hand. Kindly replace them in the orifice from whence they came."
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Postby Texkentuck » Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:24 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
Texkentuck wrote:<snip>


"What in the holy names of the gods are you blathering about?"

"Your nation surrendered its right to absolute sovereignty when it joined the World Assembly. If the heinous crimes you're boasting about are all true, then your nation is in severe violation of two separate resolutions, and crippling economic sanctions are no doubt being drawn up as we speak. If your country cannot handle the liberties and freedoms given to adult women by law to all World Assembly member states' inhabitants, that is not a problem with the World Assembly, it is a problem with your primitive hellhole of a country. Your ramblings have no bearing whatsoever on the debate at hand. Kindly replace them in the orifice from whence they came."


My nation isn't a member of the WA....Your a moron- ooc it's a game....

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Postby Goobergunchia » Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:36 pm

Texkentuck wrote:My nation isn't a member of the WA....Your a moron- ooc it's a game....


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