(DRAFT) On abortion and the medical industry

[Nopengie]

The WA,

Recognising the debate on abortion and the subjects that it branches off of,

Noticing the debate on whether medical professionals should have to perform abortions or not,

Hereby puts into place the following regulations.

1. All WA member states are required to set up a medical department for the purpose of abortion.
2. This "Abortion department", as it will be be referred to as, must perform abortions when requested unless there is a valid medical reason why they cannot, limited to 3 scenarios,those scenarios being 1. The patient is not pregnant. 2. The patient will pass away if the abortion is performed 3. The patient will receieve great physical harm due to the abortion being performed (life threatening harm).
3. Any guideline breaches by a member of the Abortion department should be met with termination from the Abortion department.
4. A WA organisation shall be formed named the World Assembly Abortion Organisation (WAAO).
5. The WAAO shall fund all nations adequately enough to roll this program out and maintain it.

[Morover]

Darin Perise, President of the Morovian Department on the World Assembly.

"I cannot see any logistical reason that this is needed while Resolution 499 is on the books, nor can I find any effect it would have that is not already covered by that resolution."

[Nopengie]

Darin Perise, President of the Morovian Department on the World Assembly.

"I cannot see any logistical reason that this is needed while Resolution 499 is on the books, nor can I find any effect it would have that is not already covered by that resolution."

Link please

[West-Indies]

The WA,

Recognising the debate on abortion and the subjects that it branches off of,

Noticing the debate on whether medical professionals should have to perform abortions or not,

Hereby puts into place the following regulations.

1. All WA member states are required to set up a medical department for the purpose of abortion.
2. This "Abortion department", as it will be be referred to as, must perform abortions when requested unless there is a valid medical reason why they cannot, limited to 3 scenarios,those scenarios being 1. The patient is not pregnant. 2. The patient will pass away if the abortion is performed 3. The patient will receieve great physical harm due to the abortion being performed (life threatening harm).
3. Any guideline breaches by a member of the Abortion department should be met with termination from the Abortion department.
4. A WA organisation shall be formed named the World Assembly Abortion Organisation (WAAO).
5. The WAAO shall fund all nations adequately enough to roll this program out and maintain it.

Forcing abortions! What a jolly idea! Killing babies? FUN!

[Lexicor]

Taking a large swig of Lexicorian Coconut Rum, the fresh faced Assistant Junior Ambassador tries to keep his composure.

"Not this again! he screams, and then storms out.

[Araraukar]

Darin Perise, President of the Morovian Department on the World Assembly.

"I cannot see any logistical reason that this is needed while Resolution 499 is on the books, nor can I find any effect it would have that is not already covered by that resolution."

Link please

OOC: Learning to use this thread is good for you: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30

Don't post in it.

[Nopengie]

Darin Perise, President of the Morovian Department on the World Assembly.

"I cannot see any logistical reason that this is needed while Resolution 499 is on the books, nor can I find any effect it would have that is not already covered by that resolution."

I've looked at GA 499. Nah, this resolution provides even more and makes things even better. You're flat out wrong,plain and simple

[Nopengie]

All responses that are simply just pro life propaganda and do not contribute to the discussion will be ignored.

[Tinhampton]

Why do you believe that member states cannot effectively ensure the legalisation of abortion without an Abortion Department? Would you support requiring member states to set up a Vaccination Department to facilitate vaccinations against communicable diseases, a Radiotherapy and Chemotherapy Department to promote the treatment of cancer, or a Slings and Casts Department to heal broken bones more rapidly?

[WayNeacTia]

All responses that are simply just pro life propaganda and do not contribute to the discussion will be ignored.

Then enjoy being ignored. Drafting is a collaborative effort. I see this going nowhere.

[Bears Armed]

MAJOR loophole...

[Outer Sparta]

All responses that are simply just pro life propaganda and do not contribute to the discussion will be ignored.

How are all the responses "pro-life propaganda?" They're simply ones telling you to look at other drafts (499 is one that covers all the basis while yours hardly does much at all) or telling you how to properly work on a draft.

[Separatist Peoples]

All responses that are simply just pro life propaganda and do not contribute to the discussion will be ignored.

Ooc: most players posting here are not pro life.

[Sylh Alanor]

3. Any guideline breaches by a member of the Abortion department should be met with termination from the Abortion department.

Well this is exceptionally late-term, isn't it?

[Union of All Socialist Peoples]

I believe in practically outlawing abortion, and that is why Union of All Socialist Peoples voted for conscientious objection to abortion.

[Second Indus Order]

All responses that are simply just pro life propaganda and do not contribute to the discussion will be ignored.

How are all the responses "pro-life propaganda?" They're simply ones telling you to look at other drafts (499 is one that covers all the basis while yours hardly does much at all) or telling you how to properly work on a draft.

hey, im new here, how do i find the resolutions?

[Outer Sparta]

How are all the responses "pro-life propaganda?" They're simply ones telling you to look at other drafts (499 is one that covers all the basis while yours hardly does much at all) or telling you how to properly work on a draft.

hey, im new here, how do i find the resolutions?

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30

That's why I suggested the OP to look at previously passed resolutions, especially those concerning abortion, to see how they look and stuff. They would know GA499 is sufficient enough to cover most of the basis concerning abortion.

[Nopengie]

All responses that are simply just pro life propaganda and do not contribute to the discussion will be ignored.

How are all the responses "pro-life propaganda?" They're simply ones telling you to look at other drafts (499 is one that covers all the basis while yours hardly does much at all) or telling you how to properly work on a draft.

I'm saying that any responses that are just saying" I'm pro life screw this!" are gonna be ignored. Not that there are many, but I'm making it clear.

[Nopengie]

Why do you believe that member states cannot effectively ensure the legalisation of abortion without an Abortion Department? Would you support requiring member states to set up a Vaccination Department to facilitate vaccinations against communicable diseases, a Radiotherapy and Chemotherapy Department to promote the treatment of cancer, or a Slings and Casts Department to heal broken bones more rapidly?

It makes it easier to cover abortion in the resolution and ensures the rest makes sense. Also a Cancer department and a Vaccination Department sound great so thanks for those ideas.

[Tsaivao]

Why do you believe that member states cannot effectively ensure the legalisation of abortion without an Abortion Department? Would you support requiring member states to set up a Vaccination Department to facilitate vaccinations against communicable diseases, a Radiotherapy and Chemotherapy Department to promote the treatment of cancer, or a Slings and Casts Department to heal broken bones more rapidly?

It makes it easier to cover abortion in the resolution and ensures the rest makes sense. Also a Cancer department and a Vaccination Department sound great so thanks for those ideas.

"You've failed to adequately answer the question," says Delegate Manhu, angling his beak downward. "These provisions don't need to be handled by an entire department of government with the singular purpose of accomplishing abortions. The 'easier' thing to do, Ambassador, would be to put a set of guidelines without the unnecessary red tape. You fail to argue for its existence except to insinuate that its existence is necessary. Is this not the most classical example of a bureaucracy expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy?"

Manhu leaned back. "Although we support most pro-choice legislature, we are opposed to this one. The author has not sufficiently argued their case, nor differentiated from other legislation already in-effect."

[Sierra Lyricalia]

It makes it easier to cover abortion in the resolution and ensures the rest makes sense. Also a Cancer department and a Vaccination Department sound great so thanks for those ideas.

"You've failed to adequately answer the question," says Delegate Manhu, angling his beak downward. "These provisions don't need to be handled by an entire department of government with the singular purpose of accomplishing abortions. The 'easier' thing to do, Ambassador, would be to put a set of guidelines without the unnecessary red tape. You fail to argue for its existence except to insinuate that its existence is necessary. Is this not the most classical example of a bureaucracy expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy?"

Manhu leaned back. "Although we support most pro-choice legislature, we are opposed to this one. The author has not sufficiently argued their case, nor differentiated from other legislation already in-effect."

"Indeed," Leo mutters into the microphone. "Functionally speaking this proposal accomplishes nothing that hasn't either 1) already been enacted by previous WA law, or 2) already put in place by member states themselves in order to ensure compliance with said law. You haven't shown how existing bureaucratic structures are inadequate to the task of ensuring abortion rights and access in member states. The WA already mandates results; there are some cases where it's also reasonable to dictate how a nation enforces the achievement of those results; but this is not one of them."

[Outer Sparta]

How are all the responses "pro-life propaganda?" They're simply ones telling you to look at other drafts (499 is one that covers all the basis while yours hardly does much at all) or telling you how to properly work on a draft.

I'm saying that any responses that are just saying" I'm pro life screw this!" are gonna be ignored. Not that there are many, but I'm making it clear.

You haven't adequately answered any criticisms of your draft and haven't made any effort to improve your resolution, but instead, dismissing such criticisms by saying they're "pro-life propaganda."

[Odinburgh]

I'm pro choice myself but I would not support this. First its a sticky issue as you have the pro-life and pro-choice crowds which are ever feuding. Second I think the WA should be left out of this. Thirdly most important just let individual regions and nations sort themselves out on this policy which I think is the best route. NS is a big place with a lot of regions with different viewpoints.

[Piscina]

“This not only is a duplicate of General Assembly resolution 499, but also far less comprehensive, detailed, and effectual. Resolution 499 makes this proposed resolution utterly redundant and totally unnecessary. All it would achieve is to waste resources on a new World Assembly department that would attempt to perform a task that the healthcare systems of almost all member nations can handle with ease. In addition, the author of this draft has failed to adequately address criticism of the resolution, instead choosing to make statements such as:

“I've looked at GA 499. Nah, this resolution provides even more and makes things even better. You're flat out wrong,plain and simple”

Although not in and of itself a valid reason not to support this draft, this does not help the author’s case, and serves to reinforce the Piscinian government’s decision to formally decline to offer support to this draft.”

The Piscinan ambassador, having finished speaking, then steps away from the microphone.

[Separatist Peoples]

I'm pro choice myself but I would not support this. First its a sticky issue as you have the pro-life and pro-choice crowds which are ever feuding. Second I think the WA should be left out of this. Thirdly most important just let individual regions and nations sort themselves out on this policy which I think is the best route. NS is a big place with a lot of regions with different viewpoints.

"The WA has already aggressively legalized abortion in all cases with two separate resolutions."