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Postby Hulldom » Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:58 pm

Inspired in part by CLEA, a database of election results that I have not yet figured out how to use which left me to sift through multiple other sites for the election data I needed...and other compilers of data pertaining to government task such as the boon publicly available data from luminaries like Her Majesty's Treasury and OECD among others...comes this brilliant plan.

I don't really have many concerns overall when it comes to content, per se, though if an IRL archivist reams me, I probably deserve it. So, without further ado...

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The World Assembly,

Recognizing the value of data archives to the work of professionals whose work takes place in a variety of fields,

Noticing that, to date, no centralized collection of data on all of the World Assembly’s functions by the various offices of said organization yet exist, hereby enacts the following:

  1. In this resolution, “data” is defined as any material, physical, digital, or otherwise, which is created in the carrying out of the functions of the World Assembly;
  2. The Office of the World Assembly Archivist, hereafter referred to as OWAA, shall be established, its goal it shall be to collect any material, physical, digital, or otherwise, which is created in the carrying out of the functions of the World Assembly with the express goal of cataloguing said materials for the World Assembly’s internal use and for researchers from all states, thus establishing an archive of World Assembly-related materials;
  3. Member states must regularly send any and all data concerning direct cooperation or contribution between the government of said member state and the World Assembly to OWAA.
    1. This mandate does not require member states to send data created via Delegations in communications with their home governments, only data generated by the home government and delegation in their direct dealing with the World Assembly.
  4. Member states are also directed to create archives of data pertaining to the functions of their national government.
  5. Nothing in this resolution requires a member state to turn over portions of private communications or sensitive archives that do not pertain to matters relating to the World Assembly to OWAA.
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:02 pm

Firstly, Is your proposal entitled "Office of the World Assembly Archivist" or "World Assembly Data Archives?"

Secondly, no support as written. The GAO/General Fund already knows how much money it sends to, and receives from, member states; since committees are - as far as I know - perfect, why does this information need to be cross-checked by OWAA?
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Postby Hulldom » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:08 pm

Tinhampton wrote:Firstly, Is your proposal entitled "Office of the World Assembly Archivist" or "World Assembly Data Archives?"

Secondly, no support as written. The GAO/General Fund already knows how much money it sends to, and receives from, member states; since committees are - as far as I know - perfect, why does this information need to be cross-checked by OWAA?

1. It could be either, I'm not wedded to the title.

2. It's not cross checking it, it's storing it, so let's say thirty years down the road Dr. Tom Anderson from Tinhampton's most prestigious University wants to study where the OEA spent money twenty-seven years ago, he's able to do it.
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Postby Morover » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:13 pm

I'd like to see more express operation in areas unrelated to funding - it seems implied, but it could certainly use more explicit language regarding it. As stands, it feels a little limited in scope.

Also, I'm fairly sure this still violates the committees-only rule, despite clause three - the actual rule states that the operative clause regarding nations must be "more strenuous than simply filing paperwork." This seems to fall under filing paperwork, by my read.
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:15 pm

Morover wrote:I'd like to see more express operation in areas unrelated to funding - it seems implied, but it could certainly use more explicit language regarding it. As stands, it feels a little limited in scope.

Also, I'm fairly sure this still violates the committees-only rule, despite clause three - the actual rule states that the operative clause regarding nations must be "more strenuous than simply filing paperwork." This seems to fall under filing paperwork, by my read.

The concern regarding rule violation is correct. Member states must actually have to do something, not just push papers around.
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Postby Hulldom » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:20 pm

Morover wrote:I'd like to see more express operation in areas unrelated to funding - it seems implied, but it could certainly use more explicit language regarding it. As stands, it feels a little limited in scope.

Also, I'm fairly sure this still violates the committees-only rule, despite clause three - the actual rule states that the operative clause regarding nations must be "more strenuous than simply filing paperwork." This seems to fall under filing paperwork, by my read.

Well alright then. I’d be curious how you’d be willing to punch through the rules violation, and to both you and Wally: well, this is why we have drafting :)
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:30 pm

I should also point out that the current language requires that member states relinquish all this data such that they no longer have it. I think it's rather important for member states to hold onto this information where it concerns them.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:32 pm

E Mortimer Wellesley. Can someone please explain what mischief this law is meant to solve?

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Postby Hulldom » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:45 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:E Mortimer Wellesley. Can someone please explain what mischief this law is meant to solve?

“Ma’am, it’s not even necessarily a present concern that we’re trying to solve here, though establishing an archive of reference for scholars of the World Assembly at the present moment is not something we’d consider a negative. Rather, we are trying to ensure that future scholars have access to the most comprehensive and complete set of papers relating to the functioning of the World Assembly, so that future generations may understand how the organization functioned in our own time and so that they may also be able to further track trends over time.”
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Postby Honeydewistania » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:56 pm

Hulldom wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:E Mortimer Wellesley. Can someone please explain what mischief this law is meant to solve?

“Ma’am, it’s not even necessarily a present concern that we’re trying to solve here, though establishing an archive of reference for scholars of the World Assembly at the present moment is not something we’d consider a negative. Rather, we are trying to ensure that future scholars have access to the most comprehensive and complete set of papers relating to the functioning of the World Assembly, so that future generations may understand how the organization functioned in our own time and so that they may also be able to further track trends over time.”


maybe elaborate on that more in ur preamble because right now its too barebones


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Postby Hanovereich » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:33 am

“What sort of data do we need to send, then? Funding, voting, ambassadors?”
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Postby Hulldom » Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:31 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Hulldom wrote:“Ma’am, it’s not even necessarily a present concern that we’re trying to solve here, though establishing an archive of reference for scholars of the World Assembly at the present moment is not something we’d consider a negative. Rather, we are trying to ensure that future scholars have access to the most comprehensive and complete set of papers relating to the functioning of the World Assembly, so that future generations may understand how the organization functioned in our own time and so that they may also be able to further track trends over time.”


maybe elaborate on that more in ur preamble because right now its too barebones

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Hanovereich wrote:“What sort of data do we need to send, then? Funding, voting, ambassadors?”

“It’s quite literally spelled out in clauses 1 and 3, sir.”
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Postby Potted Plants United » Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:52 am

Hulldom wrote:
Hanovereich wrote:“What sort of data do we need to send, then? Funding, voting, ambassadors?”

“It’s quite literally spelled out in clauses 1 and 3, sir.”

OOC: As written, that would seem to include communications between WA ambassadors and their home nation's offices. Which are protected from WA interference by diplomatic immunity in an existing resolution.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:16 am

It may be worthwhile to read on how, eg, the US deals with government records. Intermediate products are not included in record requirements. There also are specific employees or officers who are required to archive official correspondence, but this does not extend to lower grades.

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Postby Hanovereich » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:30 am

Potted Plants United wrote:
Hulldom wrote:“It’s quite literally spelled out in clauses 1 and 3, sir.”

OOC: As written, that would seem to include communications between WA ambassadors and their home nation's offices. Which are protected from WA interference by diplomatic immunity in an existing resolution.


If it does not directly relate to the WA, it is protected by Clause 8. I still agree though.




Please be more specific on Clause 6. What exactly are generated materials, how are you meant to enforce this, and why do we need to do this?
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Postby Hulldom » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:39 am

Potted Plants United wrote:
Hulldom wrote:“It’s quite literally spelled out in clauses 1 and 3, sir.”

OOC: As written, that would seem to include communications between WA ambassadors and their home nation's offices. Which are protected from WA interference by diplomatic immunity in an existing resolution.

Noted. I will tighten the language accordingly.
Imperium Anglorum wrote:It may be worthwhile to read on how, eg, the US deals with government records. Intermediate products are not included in record requirements. There also are specific employees or officers who are required to archive official correspondence, but this does not extend to lower grades.

So it would only be official documentation like reports, etc.? I understand not all personal communication is archived or even could be, but I think it is worth asking.

Edit: I’ve read the relevant NARA statutes now and I think the issue should be fixed as now it contains only (or should only contain) said data generated in the functions expressed for instance, in 44 USC§3101.
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Postby Hulldom » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:56 am

I should note too that the Requires clause has been taken out because I realize that is/was a gaping loophole. Carry on.

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Potted Plants United wrote:OOC: As written, that would seem to include communications between WA ambassadors and their home nation's offices. Which are protected from WA interference by diplomatic immunity in an existing resolution.


If it does not directly relate to the WA, it is protected by Clause 8. I still agree though.




Please be more specific on Clause 6. What exactly are generated materials, how are you meant to enforce this, and why do we need to do this?

Generated materials and data are the same thing, though for the sake of clarity, will add that as a secondary definition. As for enforcement, this is literally the point of the WACC.
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Postby Hanovereich » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:15 am

I see. And clause 6, ‘future researchers’ will be, I presume, WA officials and OWAA officials. And can OWAA access ‘governmental archives’ (clause 4)? It must be a yes for this to be related to it.
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Postby Hulldom » Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:39 am

Hanovereich wrote:I see. And clause 6, ‘future researchers’ will be, I presume, WA officials and OWAA officials. And can OWAA access ‘governmental archives’ (clause 4)? It must be a yes for this to be related to it.

Yeah, that’s shored up. While I like the idea of researchers being able to do so anyways (in a very OOC way), that wouldn’t fly for obvious reasons so “aforementioned World Assembly archives” in clause 4.
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Postby Hanovereich » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:03 pm

Cool stuff. I don't see anything wrong with it now, so full support.
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Postby Hulldom » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:28 pm

OOC: Bump.
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Postby Wallenburg » Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:19 pm

The committee-only issue persists, as member states are still only required to do paperwork. My other concern appears to be unresolved as well.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:35 pm

E Mortimer Wellesley. This is not a sentence, as it lacks an object as to what is doing the directing.

Directs states to create governmental archives for their own data created in the exercise of governmental functions.

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Postby Morover » Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:00 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:E Mortimer Wellesley. This is not a sentence, as it lacks an object as to what is doing the directing.

Directs states to create governmental archives for their own data created in the exercise of governmental functions.

The lead editor of the Morovian Department on the World Assembly's authorship sect.

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Postby Hulldom » Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:30 pm

Morover wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:E Mortimer Wellesley. This is not a sentence, as it lacks an object as to what is doing the directing.

Directs states to create governmental archives for their own data created in the exercise of governmental functions.

The lead editor of the Morovian Department on the World Assembly's authorship sect.

"I suggest replacing all periods at the ends of the operative clauses with semicolons."

“It should be fixed now, my honorable friends, our own resident grammarians have advised us to revise this to read more like one of our native laws. We have complied with this request. Hopefully too we have fixed the gripe many had of this violating the rules of this venerable establishment.”
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