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[DRAFT] Regulation of Alcohol

Postby Untecna » Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:37 am

The representative for Untecna in the World Assembly, who's name I can't remember and don't want to look for, proposes a bill to the Assembly.


Regulation of Alcohol
-Category: Moral Decency--Strength: Significant


The World Assembly,

Noting the use of alcohol for medicinal and recreational purposes across nations within the WA,

Recognizing the health issues caused by alcohol when consumed in the form of beer, wine, etc. and the moral issues related to drinking,

Knowing that action must be taken to protect the health and decency of nations in the WA,

Hereby:

1. Definitions:
-Defines "drinking" as the consumption of alcohol in alcoholic drinks, like beer, wine, whiskey, etc.
-Defines "drunk" as the aftereffect of consuming too much alcohol.
-Defines "liquor" as any drink containing alcohol.
2. Limits the consumption of alcohol to the appropriate amounts per type of alcoholic drink.*
3. Requires that all member states start programs, if not already existing, to encourage people not to drink.
4. Requires that all sale of alcohol is by someone licensed to do so.
5. Allows for sacramental use of alcohol.
6. Allows for member states to build on this resolution with their own laws.
7. Affirms that this resolution does not ban alcohol, but merely regulates it's use.


I know it probably has some issues right out of the gate, so please tell me what I can fix, add, or remove on this.

*=Because different drinks have different levels of alcohol, the amount consumed to become drunk changes, along with other factors. Therefore I can't go into detail as much here.

Edit 1: Added sacramental use, changed Clause 2.
Last edited by Untecna on Fri Jul 02, 2021 3:54 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:00 am

So are all restaurants and pubs now banned from selling booze?

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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:09 am

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"Apart from anything else: Rreligious groups that use alcohol-containing drinks for sacramental purposes, for some of hwhom this would be a matter not only of Custom but also of Doctrine itself, would object -- and hrreasoanably so, in my opinion -- to this."


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Postby Groot » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:17 am

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Postby TESDAI » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:20 am

How does the World Assembly, or it’s member nations, restrict someone’s alcohol consumption in the privacy of their own home?

Regardless of the ability of the WA to enforce this proposal of moral intent and beliefs of those in TESDAI, religious and personal freedom is important, and we feel that this is overstepping many boundaries into the personal choices of citizens. Therefore, TESDAI does not support this proposal and will encourage allies to also not support it.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:27 am

Ambassador Tav: This resolution is complete bollocks and largely unenforceable. Now, is there a member of the Untecna delegation who would love to give us a drink or two?
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Postby Untecna » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:32 am

Bears Armed wrote:"Hr'rmm...
"Apart from anything else: Rreligious groups that use alcohol-containing drinks for sacramental purposes, for some of hwhom this would be a matter not only of Custom but also of Doctrine itself, would object -- and hrreasoanably so, in my opinion -- to this."


*<sends an intern on an errand to the Strangers' Bar, to obtain another bottle of 'Methegrryn' -- a herbally-flavoured Mead -- while that is still possible>*

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So are all restaurants and pubs now banned from selling booze?

This has been changed. Please note that it is hard to go into detail on it, because alcohol affects people differently based on factors other than the drink itself, but assume that the values are in there.

Also, the change is essentially saying: You can drink, but you can't get drunk, so there is a limit.
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Postby Untecna » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:33 am

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Groot, seriously... don't throw stuff, we're discussing a bill... Are you drunk?

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Postby Brezzia » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:39 am

"Allows for alcohol to be used for medicinal purposes, when used by a doctor with a license and given that it is not to be given away."
This means you can't disinfect your own wounds, even if you are a nurse. This delegation is against any proposal that advocate "moral issues" or "decency".
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Postby Untecna » Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:44 am

Brezzia wrote:"Allows for alcohol to be used for medicinal purposes, when used by a doctor with a license and given that it is not to be given away."
This means you can't disinfect your own wounds, even if you are a nurse. This delegation is against any proposal that advocate "moral issues" or "decency".

That was removed.
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Postby Brezzia » Fri Jul 02, 2021 8:22 am

Untecna wrote:That was removed.

"-Defines "drunk" as the aftereffect of consuming too much alcohol."
Why "drunk"? It can be used as an insult. How much? Blood alcohol content is the measurement of alcohol intoxication used for legal or medical purposes.

"Limits the consumption of alcohol to the appropriate amounts per type of alcoholic drink."
Alcohol by volume is the standard measure of how much alcohol is contained in an alcoholic beverage. This delegation does not agree with the proposal to limit alcohol consumption if an individual does not have to carry out work activities or activities that require special attention (eg driving).

"Requires that all member states start programs, if not already existing, to encourage people not to drink."
This delegation believes that such programs should be aimed at individuals suffering from alcoholism. It believes that programs that encourage the reduction of alcohol consumption are sufficient for the general population.

"Allows for sacramental use of alcohol.
Affirms that this resolution does not ban alcohol, but merely regulates it's use."
Having regard to clause 5 and the previously removed clause, which outline particular exceptions, this delegation considers that the proposal under consideration aims to indirecly ban the consumption of alcoholic beverages.
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Postby Hulldom » Fri Jul 02, 2021 8:22 am

TESDAI wrote:How does the World Assembly, or it’s member nations, restrict someone’s alcohol consumption in the privacy of their own home?

Regardless of the ability of the WA to enforce this proposal of moral intent and beliefs of those in TESDAI, religious and personal freedom is important, and we feel that this is overstepping many boundaries into the personal choices of citizens. Therefore, TESDAI does not support this proposal and will encourage allies to also not support it.

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:50 pm

Untecna wrote: -Defines "drinking" as the consumption of alcohol in alcoholic rinks, like beer, wine, whiskey, etc.


"So we're to regulate the consumption of alcohol at hockey games, but not at other sporting events or venues, then? I think we can live with that."


2. Limits the consumption of alcohol to the appropriate amounts per type of alcoholic drink.*


"We cannot, however, support this provision. If the first item - the rink line - is indeed a typo, however, this item could be salvaged with a simple change: replace 'alcoholic drink' with 'event,' thus:
2. Limits the consumption of alcohol to the appropriate amounts per type of event.

"That way, you limit the extent to which your spouse's aunt gets sloppy and starts bad-mouthing you at your wedding reception, while still allowing your sister's boyfriend to get enough liquid courage to wear a year's worth of varnish off the dance floor in a single night. Or, back to sports, your Nueva Yorick Bench Henchmen can still get shitfaced enough to call the umpire sick and unmentionable names, as is their inalienable right and moral duty, but the line gets drawn when the Illadelph Halflife fans start throwing batteries at Sandy Claws."


"If your intent is actually to force member states to regulate alcohol to the extent required by the draconian Clause 2, nationwide, we cannot and will not support this proposal. Ever."
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Postby In Insulam Autem Sanguis Et Magia » Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:36 pm

This doesn't seem to be in the purview of the WA, as such mundane affairs fall under state sovereignty. Not sure what place it has in international resolutions.

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Postby Hulldom » Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:43 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
Untecna wrote: -Defines "drinking" as the consumption of alcohol in alcoholic rinks, like beer, wine, whiskey, etc.


"So we're to regulate the consumption of alcohol at hockey games, but not at other sporting events or venues, then? I think we can live with that."


2. Limits the consumption of alcohol to the appropriate amounts per type of alcoholic drink.*


"We cannot, however, support this provision. If the first item - the rink line - is indeed a typo, however, this item could be salvaged with a simple change: replace 'alcoholic drink' with 'event,' thus:
2. Limits the consumption of alcohol to the appropriate amounts per type of event.

"That way, you limit the extent to which your spouse's aunt gets sloppy and starts bad-mouthing you at your wedding reception, while still allowing your sister's boyfriend to get enough liquid courage to wear a year's worth of varnish off the dance floor in a single night. Or, back to sports, your Nueva Yorick Bench Henchmen can still get shitfaced enough to call the umpire sick and unmentionable names, as is their inalienable right and moral duty, but the line gets drawn when the Illadelph Halflife fans start throwing batteries at Sandy Claws."


"If your intent is actually to force member states to regulate alcohol to the extent required by the draconian Clause 2, nationwide, we cannot and will not support this proposal. Ever."

“To echo the comments of our semi-Honorable friends from Sierra Lyricalia, Claude 2 is intensely problematic because it could be argued, and a state would not exactly be wrong in stating, that the “appropriate amounts per type of alcoholic drink” is, in fact, zero.

While I disagree with the delegation from Sierra Lyricalia as there is no possibility the Hulldomian delegation could ever support this, I felt the need to note what I said above in order to assist the Untecnan delegation.”
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"Opposed as it is not the place of the World Assembly to dictate what members of a nation can do in regards to Alcohol Consumption."

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Untecna wrote:
Groot wrote:Groot stumbles into the debate hall. "Oi am Grrrrrroooooo," he slurs, throwing an empty root beer bottle at the author -- and missing by a wide margin.

Groot, seriously... don't throw stuff, we're discussing a bill... Are you drunk?

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Postby Untecna » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:12 pm

Groot wrote:
Untecna wrote:Groot, seriously... don't throw stuff, we're discussing a bill... Are you drunk?

"I am Groot," answers Groot. He picks up a copy of the draft proposal, wads it up into a ball of paper, and deposits it in his mouth.

Why in the world are you eating the proposal?
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Postby Untecna » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:13 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:"Opposed as it is not the place of the World Assembly to dictate what members of a nation can do in regards to Alcohol Consumption."

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Then how is the World Assembly the place to dictate, say, the legality of the death penalty? You can use that logic on anything that's been passed dictating what nations can and can't do.
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Postby Daarwyrth » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:38 pm

Dame Maria vyn Nysen, WA Representative of Daarwyrth: "While our nation has enacted prohibition many decades ago, ultimately it falls to each individual state to regulate the use of alcohol. The manner in which this proposal draft handles the subject is too vague and broad. Alas, our delegation finds itself unable to support this draft."
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Postby Morover » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:57 pm

Vagabound Venice, Welfare Lawyer in the Morovian Department on the World Assembly:

"Our nation wholeheartedly supports the reduction of addiction within World Assembly nations, and would even go so far as to support measures in order to promote anti-addiction, but this is not that. Alcoholism may be a prevalent problem in many World Assembly nations, but that does not inherently make it an issue worth tackling; you seem to be going after the symptoms of a problem, instead of the cause. Drinking in and of itself is not immoral by any means and the insinuation that it spits in the face of those who have had medical complications of it. I suggest you reevaluate the premise, and the execution, of this proposal."
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Postby Bananaistan » Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:42 am

"The Party has long been opposed to the individualists within the proletariat addling themselves with mind altering substances but we found through experience that cracking down on alcohol too much is not politically viable while the harsh drugs policy is. Section 2 is simply a non-runner - the Bananamen people will not tolerate being stopped from drinking their fill. The rest is fluff - opposed."
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Postby Araraukar » Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:45 am

OOC: Instead of defining drunk, you should define alcohol. It can be many things: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol

And if the proposal mandates legalization of alcohol for recreational purposes, no support.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:22 am

Untecna wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:"Opposed as it is not the place of the World Assembly to dictate what members of a nation can do in regards to Alcohol Consumption."

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Shazbotdom Ambassador to the World Assembly

Then how is the World Assembly the place to dictate, say, the legality of the death penalty? You can use that logic on anything that's been passed dictating what nations can and can't do.


"Many of the 'rules' that this body has passed, unless they have to do with Human Rights, are an overreach. Plus, I will note that not all of the member nations of this August Body are human. We have both human and sentient non-human species. All of them react to Alcohol in different ways, and some barely react to excessive alcohol amounts. Drinking whole bottles of hard liquor with having their BAC barely hit 0.01%. So, are we still going to put these arbitrary limits on the amount of alcohol consumed by an individual, or are we going to just send this proposal through the shredder?"

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Postby The Democratic Republic of Nytoa » Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:25 am

Shazbotdom wrote:
Untecna wrote:Then how is the World Assembly the place to dictate, say, the legality of the death penalty? You can use that logic on anything that's been passed dictating what nations can and can't do.


"Many of the 'rules' that this body has passed, unless they have to do with Human Rights, are an overreach. Plus, I will note that not all of the member nations of this August Body are human. We have both human and sentient non-human species. All of them react to Alcohol in different ways, and some barely react to excessive alcohol amounts. Drinking whole bottles of hard liquor with having their BAC barely hit 0.01%. So, are we still going to put these arbitrary limits on the amount of alcohol consumed by an individual, or are we going to just send this proposal through the shredder?"

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