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[DEFEATED] World Assembly Peace Prize

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:46 am
by Tinhampton
This resolution was at vote between the 10th and 14th of August, 2021.
It was defeated by a margin of 6,733 votes (about 54%) to 5,748 (about 46%).

This proposal has been filed to the General Assembly Global Disarmament Board.
NOTE: at 0028 BST on the 27th of July 2021, this proposal reached quorum with The Chuck's approval, the 53rd all told.
NOTE 2: at 1837 BST on the 6th of August 2021, this proposal won its 106th approval - double the number required for quorum - from Tomisburg.

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Alexander Smith, Tinhamptonian Delegate-Ambassador to the World Assembly: Eighteen Terran years ago, "United Nations Peace Prize" by Pax Romantica was defeated after receiving 5,672 votes in favour and 8,542 votes against - almost 40% support. Sixteen Terran years ago, "UN Peace prize" by the Republic of Freedonia was defeated after receiving 8,063 votes in favour to 8,811 votes against - almost 48% support. Thirteen Terran years ago, the World Assembly was created and no such proposal has had its day at vote since. Our delegation believes a resolution to ensure that those who have contributed greatly to intermultiversal peace are rewarded is long overdue.
Lydia Anderson, Assistant to the Delegate-Ambassador: I was told that the General Accounting Office could not afford anything more expensive than silver.

OOC:
  • Yes, I am a cultural imperialist. Why do you ask? =p
  • Regarding Article c, refer to Franklin D Roosevelt's gold seizures.
  • Article d was added primarily to avoid a committee-only rule violation. Refer to Article 2 of the RLUN's Declaration on Measures to Eliminate International Terrorism; see also Antonio Gutierres' call for an international ceasefire, supported by 171 countries and the EU.
  • Article d's "not necessary" carveout reflects the Arrellesscee's clarification that Gutierres' ceasefire was not to "apply to military operations against the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as Da’esh), Al Qaeda and Al Nusra Front (ANF), and all other individuals, groups, undertakings and entities associated with Al Qaeda or ISIL, and other terrorist groups."
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World Assembly Peace Prize
A resolution to slash worldwide military spending.
Category: Global Disarmament
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Tinhampton

Whereas all sapient rights are put in danger wherever unnecessary armed conflict occurs, the General Assembly hereby:
  1. establishes the World Assembly Peace Prize, hereinafter the Prize,
  2. tasks the WA Commission on Human Rights with:
    1. receiving nominations for the Prize from anyone who works as a head of state or government, legislator, or professor in any member state, in addition to any leaders of member state delegations to the World Assembly; and disregarding nominations with the effect of such individuals nominating themselves, their co-workers or their employer for the Prize,
    2. awarding the Prize each year to that person or group of people resident in any member state who has been nominated in accordance with Article b(i),
    3. basing its decision to award the Prize to any given person or group solely on whether, in its view, they have demonstrably contributed more than any other such person or group in the previous year to the resolution, without violence and with respect for all sapient rights protected by international law, of major conflicts between and within nations which involved or could have realistically involved large-scale acts of violence, and
    4. rewarding (each of) the winner(s) of the Prize in each year with a medallion containing one ounce of 99.9% pure silver and of one-and-a-half inch diameter, which shall have on its obverse the words "WA PEACE PRIZE - WITH PEACE COMES FREEDOM" surrounding the logo of the World Assembly, and on its reverse nothing,
  3. forbids members from confiscating any rewards bestowed upon Prize winners under Article b(iv) for any reason not enshrined by prior and standing international law, and
  4. encourages all members to refrain from organised armed conflict which is not necessary to prevent practices (such as terrorism, genocide, and other crimes against humanity) that threaten the achievement of all sapient rights.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:49 am
by Separatist Peoples
Ooc: can you please stop.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:50 am
by Trellania
OOC: While I like the idea, wouldn't this be far better as a roleplay topic in International Incidents?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:15 am
by Wallenburg
Actually, I think this would work better under that proposed Declaration category in the SC.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:25 am
by Imperium Anglorum
Wallenburg wrote:Actually, I think this would work better under that proposed Declaration category in the SC.

Would that not be peace prize for nations qua players rather than for roleplayed nation leaders?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:31 am
by Wallenburg
Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Actually, I think this would work better under that proposed Declaration category in the SC.

Would that not be peace prize for nations qua players rather than for roleplayed nation leaders?

Sure, but the concept behind this proposal is so obviously committee-only that it really shouldn't be considered in the GA at all. Far better to try it in the chamber with a long, storied history in handing out awards.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:39 am
by Goobergunchia
Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Actually, I think this would work better under that proposed Declaration category in the SC.

Would that not be peace prize for nations qua players rather than for roleplayed nation leaders?

Could be either one depending on how it's written -- there's no requirement that the SC be restricted to Gameplay.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:41 pm
by Tinhampton
This will be submitted to the General Assembly, not the Other Chamber.

I wrote this proposal before Declarations were officially announced by Sedge; it is a coincidence that I officially published my draft at around the same time hype was building up for them.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:12 pm
by Herby
Okay so why is this Civil Rights and not Global Disarmament? You would think that incentives to find peace would mean fewer wars meaning fewer weapons and less money spent on militaries, right?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:15 pm
by Bears Armed
Herby wrote:Okay so why is this Civil Rights and not Global Disarmament? You would think that incentives to find peace would mean fewer wars meaning fewer weapons and less money spent on militaries, right?

"That is a verrry good question."

Artorrios O SouthWoods,
ChairBear,
Bears Armed Mission at the W.A. .

PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:08 pm
by Tinhampton
Herby wrote:Okay so why is this Civil Rights and not Global Disarmament? You would think that incentives to find peace would mean fewer wars meaning fewer weapons and less money spent on militaries, right?

It is clear that Article d's recommendation, the only non-committee clause in this draft, has no effect on "organised armed conflict which [is] necessary to prevent practices... that threaten the achievement of all sapient rights." :P

PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:36 am
by Herby
Tinhampton wrote:
Herby wrote:Okay so why is this Civil Rights and not Global Disarmament? You would think that incentives to find peace would mean fewer wars meaning fewer weapons and less money spent on militaries, right?

It is clear that Article d's recommendation, the only non-committee clause in this draft, has no effect on "organised armed conflict which [is] necessary to prevent practices... that threaten the achievement of all sapient rights." :P

And I can highlight “refrain from organized conflict” as the counterargument. Also the last failed proposal that you so helpfully provided a link to was Global Disarmament.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:48 pm
by Tinhampton
After some thinking, I have - reluctantly - decided to recategorise this as GD/Mild. I intend to retain the WACHR as the Prize's awarding body, however.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:09 pm
by Waldenes
*The Ambassador from Waldenes beams from ear to ear, almost annoyingly. Anyone present would likely be able to predict, just from his expression, what would come next.*

“Why, this is an absolutely marvelous idea, Ambassador! You have our full unwavering support!”

PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:14 pm
by Coronational Chechyans and affiliates
It's a good idea and I'd endorse it. I don't necessarily think it's in the best category though.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:44 pm
by The Hazar Amisnery
Would this be the same as commendations?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:49 am
by Tinhampton
The Hazar Amisnery wrote:Would this be the same as commendations?

No.

Does anybody have any substantiative feedback about the actual text of my draft?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:11 am
by Separatist Peoples
Tinhampton wrote:
The Hazar Amisnery wrote:Would this be the same as commendations?

No.

Does anybody have any substantiative feedback about the actual text of my draft?

Ooc: you don't seem to listen, so no.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:20 am
by The Hazar Amisnery
How would this work with the games mechanics? Do we get a badge? What do we have to do to win this prize? How does this differentiate from commendations?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:10 am
by Tinhampton
The Hazar Amisnery wrote:How would this work with the games mechanics? Do we get a badge? What do we have to do to win this prize? How does this differentiate from commendations?

In that order:
1. It doesn't insist upon any changes to how NationStates.net, the game, actually works.
2. No.
3. Whatever a WA committee says you have to do :P
4. The Other Place does not run on a one-Commend-per-year rota and does not refuse to give out Commendations to people solely because they have not worked to prevent "major conflicts between and within nations which involved or could have realistically involved large-scale acts of violence."

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:08 am
by Hanovereich
Idea: Do this concept, but for other subjects. And please differentiate further between this and Commendations.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:57 am
by Tinhampton
Say hi to ACCEL for me on the way out... but yes, interesting.

The differences between the Prize and a Security Council Commendation should be fairly obvious if not glaring by now. I will likely submit this on the week beginning 26th July 2021.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:33 am
by Tinhampton
Am still likely to submit this in about a week. Any thoughts (other than "Support" without explanation, "Opposed" without explanation, and "I want to find out what the differences between this and a Commendation are")? :P

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:10 am
by Bears Armed
Tinhampton wrote:Any thoughts (other than "Support" without explanation, "Opposed" without explanation, and "I want to find out what the differences between this and a Commendation are")? :P

OOC: Why not do this as a separate Declaration each year?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:49 am
by Tinhampton
Hmmm - interesting... grabs popcorn