OOC: I came up with this idea earlier today, and wanted to give it a try in a draft. I would love to know how others feel about this idea, and whether they would like to see something along these lines implemented. As such, feedback and commentary are most welcome! CURRENT DRAFT:
Believing it is in the interest of any being or entity to know itself and to reflect upon its nature critically, and thus desiring to give the students of member nations both present and future the ability to understand the World Assembly academically, and be aware of its influence and role in the international community as attendees of national or international law schools; and
Recognising the work of previously passed legislation that ensures the inhabitants of member nations receive the opportunity to learn more about those resolutions that impact them, yet confident that there remains ample room to further the consolidation of knowledge about the World Assembly and how it operates;
The World Assembly hereby:
Establishes the academic course World Assembly Jurisprudence Studies (from here on WAJS) intended for the curricula of all tertiary educational facilities and institutions in the field of law studies, that shall aim to impart the following knowledge to course attendants:
The general history of the World Assembly, from its founding to its role in the international community in the present; and
The manner in which the World Assembly and its committees function; and
An understanding of World Assembly law, how it is written, how it functions and what its impact is on member nations; and
The process of debating and voting in the World Assembly, which shall include simulated debates and votes;
Instructs member states, and any of their departments, to devise and implement WAJS educational trajectories in facilities and institutions that qualify as tertiary education, and where the study of law and jurisprudence is at the core of the educational programming;
Specifies that these WAJS educational trajectories are to be divided into the following two categories:
Undergraduate WAJS courses at three levels of difficulty, namely basic, intermediate and advanced, where these courses shall be a mandatory element of every law student's curriculum at the basic and intermediate levels, while the advanced level shall be mandatory for students whose specialisation in the law studies is a domain that is influenced by WA law, and an elective in all other cases; and
A postgraduate WAJS specialisation trajectory that can be followed by students who have obtained an undergraduate degree in law studies, and who wish to specialise themselves in World Assembly jurisprudence at a higher level of tertiary education;
Declares that students who follow an educational trajectory as specified by Clause 1, be it at undergraduate or postgraduate level, can follow internships at the World Assembly and at World Assembly-related national government bodies in member states, to allow them to gain practical experience that may help them to satisfactorily complete their education, yet requires:
that these shall be paid internship positions, or that these interns will have their expenses compensated in the form of a stipend at least; and
that the candidates for these internship positions shall be selected by fair yet demanding academic competition that the member nations are free to give shape to;
Strongly urges member nations to prioritise students with postgraduate degrees in the WAJS educational trajectories when hiring new staff members for World Assembly-related government organisations and institutions.
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 4:53 pm
by Daarwyrth
DRAFT 3:
Establishing The World Assembly Jurisprudence Studies Education and Creativity | Educational
Believing it is in the interest of any being or entity to know itself and to reflect upon its nature critically, and thus desiring to give the students of member nations both present and future the ability to understand the World Assembly academically, and be aware of its influence and role in the international community as attendees of national or international law schools; and
Recognising the work of previously passed legislation that ensures the inhabitants of member nations receive the opportunity to learn more about those resolutions that impact them, yet confident that there remains ample room to further the consolidation of knowledge about the World Assembly and how it operates;
The World Assembly hereby:
Establishes the academic course World Assembly Jurisprudence Studies (from here on WAJS) intended for the curricula of all tertiary educational facilities and institutions in the field of law studies, that shall aim to impart the following knowledge to course attendants:
The general history of the World Assembly, from its founding to its role in the international community in the present; and
The manner in which the World Assembly and its committees function; and
An understanding of World Assembly law, how it is written, how it functions and what its impact is on member nations; and
The process of debating and voting in the World Assembly, which shall include simulated debates and votes;
Instructs member states, and any of their departments, to devise and implement WAJS educational trajectories in facilities and institutions that qualify as tertiary education, and where the study of law and jurisprudence is at the core of the educational programming;
Specifies that these WAJS educational trajectories are to be divided into the following two categories:
Undergraduate WAJS courses at three levels of difficulty, namely basic, intermediate and advanced, where these courses shall be a mandatory element of every law student's curriculum at the basic and intermediate levels, while the advanced level shall be mandatory for students whose specialisation in the law studies is a domain that is influenced by WA law, and an elective in all other cases; and
A postgraduate WAJS specialisation trajectory that can be followed by students who have obtained an undergraduate degree in law studies, and who wish to specialise themselves in World Assembly jurisprudence at a higher level of tertiary education;
Declares that students who follow an educational trajectory as specified by Clause 1, be it at undergraduate or postgraduate level, may follow internships at the World Assembly and at World Assembly-related national government bodies in member states, to allow them to gain practical experience that may help them to satisfactorily complete their education;
Strongly urges member nations to prioritise students with postgraduate degrees in the WAJS educational trajectories when hiring new staff members for World Assembly-related government organisations and institutions.
DRAFT 2:
Establishing The World Assembly Jurisprudence Studies Education and Creativity | Educational
Believing it is in the interest of any being or entity to know itself and to reflect upon its nature critically, and thus desiring to give the students of member nations both present and future the ability to understand the World Assembly academically, and be aware of its influence and role in the international community as attendees of national or international law schools; and
Recognising the work of previously passed legislation that ensures the inhabitants of member nations receive the opportunity to learn more about those resolutions that impact them, yet confident that there remains ample room to further the consolidation of knowledge about the World Assembly and how it operates;
The World Assembly hereby:
Establishes the academic course World Assembly Jurisprudence Studies (from here on WAJS) intended for the curricula of all tertiary educational facilities and institutions in the field of law studies, that shall aim to impart the following knowledge to course attendants:
The general history of the World Assembly, from its founding to its role in the international community in the present; and
The manner in which the World Assembly and its committees function; and
An understanding of World Assembly law, how it is written, how it functions and what its impact is on member nations; and
The process of debating and voting in the World Assembly, which shall include simulated debates and votes;
Instructs member states, and any of their departments, to devise and implement WAJS educational trajectories in facilities and institutions that qualify as tertiary education, and where the study of law and jurisprudence is at the core of the educational programming;
Specifies that these WAJS educational trajectories are to be divided into the following two categories:
Undergraduate WAJS courses that vary from a basic to advanced level of difficulty, where these courses shall be an elective for law students that do not follow a trajectory specialising in international law, and where the WAJS courses shall be mandatory for law students that do follow a trajectory focused on international law; and
A postgraduate WAJS specialisation trajectory that can be followed by students who have obtained an undergraduate degree in law studies, and who wish to specialise themselves in World Assembly jurisprudence at a higher level of tertiary education;
Declares that students who follow an educational trajectory as specified by Clause 1, be it at undergraduate or postgraduate level, may follow internships at the World Assembly and at World Assembly-related national government bodies in member states, to allow them to gain practical experience that may help them to satisfactorily complete their education;
Strongly urges member nations to prioritise students with postgraduate degrees in the WAJS educational trajectories when hiring new staff members for World Assembly-related government organisations and institutions.
DRAFT 1:
Establishing The World Assembly Jurisprudence Studies Education and Creativity | Educational
Believing it is in the interest of any being or entity to know itself and to reflect upon its nature critically, and thus desiring to give the students of member nations both present and future the ability to understand the World Assembly academically, and be aware of its influence and role in the international community as attendees of national or international Law Schools;
The World Assembly hereby:
Establishes the academic course World Assembly Jurisprudence Studies (from here on WAJS) intended for the curricula of all tertiary educational institutions in the field of Law Studies, that shall aim to impart the following knowledge to course attendants:
The general history of the World Assembly, from its founding to its role in the international community in the present; and
The manner of functioning of the World Assembly in general; and
An understanding of World Assembly law, how it is written, how it functions and what its impact is on member nations; and
The process of debating and voting in the World Assembly, simulated debates and votes included;
Instructs member states to devise and implement WAJS educational trajectories in facilities and institutions that qualify as tertiary education, and where the study of law and jurisprudence is at the core of the educational programming;
Specifies that these WAJS educational trajectories are to be divided in to the following two categories:
WAJS courses that vary from a basic to advanced level of difficulty, that are to be implemented at the general or basic level of tertiary education, where these courses shall be an elective for law students that do not follow a trajectory specialising in international law, and where the WAJS courses shall be mandatory for law students that do follow a trajectory geared towards a specialisation in international law; and
A WAJS specialisation trajectory at expert level that can be followed by students who have obtained a degree in Law Studies at a general or basic level, and wish to specialise themselves in World Assembly jurisprudence at a higher level of tertiary education;
Grants students following WAJS specialisation trajectories at any facility or institution in a member nation providing tertiary education in Law Studies the ability to follow internships at the World Assembly headquarters and offices;
Further instructs member states to devise and implement similar internship programmes where appropriate and possible, to grant students following WAJS specialisation trajectories the ability to gain the necessary experience and knowledge to satisfactorily complete their education in this field of Law Studies;
Strongly urges member nations to give students with degrees in the WAJS specialisation trajectories precedence in the recruitment of their staff for World Assembly related government organisations and institutions.
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 5:13 pm
by Tinhampton
Alexander Smith, Tinhamptonian Delegate-Ambassador to the World Assembly: The Security Council... what is this Security Council you speak of? Why, then, it must be nothing other than an inexistent abomination - it is not here, it is not there, and it is nowhere, as the Gruenbergers found out to their own peril upon challenging their own repeal at the very advent of the reformed Secretariat! Such references ought to be purged, lest it reconvenes yet again! Kevin Mitchell, fourth-in-line to the post of Delegate-Ambassador, some time later: Please excuse my manager's... temporary incompetence. I would commend onto the Daarwyrthians resolution number four-hundred and forty-two, on the Circulation of World Assembly Law, in particular its Article 2.
Tinhampton wrote:Alexander Smith, Tinhamptonian Delegate-Ambassador to the World Assembly: The Security Council... what is this Security Council you speak of? Why, then, it must be nothing other than an inexistent abomination - it is not here, it is not there, and it is nowhere, as the Gruenbergers found out to their own peril upon challenging their own repeal at the very advent of the reformed Secretariat! Such references ought to be purged, lest it reconvenes yet again! Kevin Mitchell, fourth-in-line to the post of Delegate-Ambassador, some time later: Please excuse my manager's... temporary incompetence. I would commend onto the Daarwyrthians resolution number four-hundred and forty-two, on the Circulation of World Assembly Law, in particular its Article 2.
Dame Maria vyn Nysen: "I was indeed quite surprised by the inclusion of this Security Council by one of my staffers. Fortunately, the situation was cleared up internally and the mention of this non-existent entity was removed from the draft, at the same time your delegation's feedback was provided. I apologise for the inconvenience.
Our delegation will also take into consideration the text of the proposal in question, and make the necessary amendments to the current draft after a brief period of collecting commentary and feedback, thank you.
We do wonder however, would it be possible to construe this as the expansion of Article 2 of GAR #442, without relying on it, or building on it specifically? Would an expansion count as duplication?"
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:05 pm
by Wallenburg
This is some extremely creative stuff, and it's come out really well in your early drafting. I'd recommend decapitalizing Law Studies and Law Schools, since they are not proper nouns. I was worried there might be some weird interactions with GA#442, but as it turns out the current scope and effect of this proposal seems to lock into place with it perfectly, as to expand on education in WA law where I had not thought to write.
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 1:27 am
by Daarwyrth
Wallenburg wrote:This is some extremely creative stuff, and it's come out really well in your early drafting. I'd recommend decapitalizing Law Studies and Law Schools, since they are not proper nouns. I was worried there might be some weird interactions with GA#442, but as it turns out the current scope and effect of this proposal seems to lock into place with it perfectly, as to expand on education in WA law where I had not thought to write.
OOC: Thank you, I appreciate the comments I admit I had not been aware of GA #422 at the time of writing the first draft, but I'm glad to hear there isn't too much friction between the two! I will definitely keep Article 2 of that resolution in mind when continuing to draft on this!
Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 5:04 am
by Daarwyrth
Vyn Nysen: "With a number of suggestions we received from the Tinhamptonian delegation through private channels, as well as the feedback provided by the delegation from Wallenburg, we have posted a new draft of this resolution proposal for your perusal. We thank all who have provided feedback thus far, and warmly welcome any new comments and remarks."
Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 8:13 pm
by Imperium Anglorum
So I'm not normally one to talk about some kind of rational inevitability, but it seriously is actually relevant here.
A WA nation running a law programme in which they do not cover WA law is like a real law programme trying to be accredited without covering contracts. WA laws are sufficiently intrusive and sufficiently broad that covering them is going to be necessary for someone to comprehend their own nation's legal code. This isn't like some kind of elective you can take on the law of the sea (UNCLOS) which is mostly separate from the rest of what you learn in law school. WA law touches at least at some level, on basically every single thing. You can't do a murder trial without at least glancing at Fairness in Criminal Trials. You can't do a property easement without also making sure it doesn't violate some boondoggle environmental legislation. You cannot have a life insurance case without checking for violations of that terrible (un-repealable) dead pheasant resolution. For a lawyer to be "trained" without knowing WA law would be little more than admitting that the lawyer is not trained.
Wally's previous resolution was different, aimed at the general population, which is not inherently going to be informed on the law. The extent of that education also is varied. If you are a student training to be a dancer, WA legislation is mostly irrelevant. But given your resolution seems targeted towards law students, this critique I think carries far more weight and relevance.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 11:28 pm
by Daarwyrth
Imperium Anglorum wrote:So I'm not normally one to talk about some kind of rational inevitability, but it seriously is actually relevant here.
A WA nation running a law programme in which they do not cover WA law is like a real law programme trying to be accredited without covering contracts. WA laws are sufficiently intrusive and sufficiently broad that covering them is going to be necessary for someone to comprehend their own nation's legal code. This isn't like some kind of elective you can take on the law of the sea (UNCLOS) which is mostly separate from the rest of what you learn in law school. WA law touches at least at some level, on basically every single thing. You can't do a murder trial without at least glancing at Fairness in Criminal Trials. You can't do a property easement without also making sure it doesn't violate some boondoggle environmental legislation. You cannot have a life insurance case without checking for violations of that terrible (un-repealable) dead pheasant resolution. For a lawyer to be "trained" without knowing WA law would be little more than admitting that the lawyer is not trained.
Wally's previous resolution was different, aimed at the general population, which is not inherently going to be informed on the law. The extent of that education also is varied. If you are a student training to be a dancer, WA legislation is mostly irrelevant. But given your resolution seems targeted towards law students, this critique I think carries far more weight and relevance.
OOC: The part about "elective" can be changed, of course, no problem. In that case I would simply change it to WAJS undergraduate courses becoming a mandatory part of the curriculum for all law students, as what you say makes a lot of sense and I find myself in agreement with it. I'll have it changed in the upcoming draft! Thanks, I think this is a very valid and astute observation
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 11:01 am
by Hulldom
If there was a WA Court, or something similar to it, this wouldn't be a bad idea. I love this idea though.
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 11:03 am
by Daarwyrth
Hulldom wrote:If there was a WA Court, or something similar to it, this wouldn't be a bad idea. I love this idea though.
OOC: I think the idea is still viable even though there isn't a WA Court WA law is a significant part of everyday life of the citizens of member nations, where multiple aspects of their life are protected of regulated by it. In the event of a legal issue where WA law is involved, having lawyers specialised in WA law would be invaluable, I think!
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 11:06 am
by Tinhampton
Delegate-Ambassador Smith: Resolution Four-Hundred and Sixty-Six establishes the courts of the World Assembly Judiciary Committee.
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 12:07 pm
by Daarwyrth
Tinhampton wrote:Delegate-Ambassador Smith: Resolution Four-Hundred and Sixty-Six establishes the courts of the World Assembly Judiciary Committee.
Vyn Nysen: "Delegate-Ambassador Smith is correct. Thank you for pointing out the relevant legislation, we appreciate it.
Our delegation has posted a new draft, wherein Clause 3a has been reworked according to the remarks shared by the delegation from Imperium Anglorum. We have opted for the following approach to those comments, and would like to hear your thoughts on this."
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 2:41 pm
by Waldenes
*The Ambassador from Waldenes beams in approval while reading through the proposal.*
“Now this, Ambassador, is a fantastic proposal. You have the full support of the people of Waldenes.”
OOC: WA Court? Has anyone ever suggested that to the devs? Because that sounds amazing.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:31 am
by Daarwyrth
Waldenes wrote:*The Ambassador from Waldenes beams in approval while reading through the proposal.*
“Now this, Ambassador, is a fantastic proposal. You have the full support of the people of Waldenes.”
Vyn Nysen: "Our delegation is most appreciative of your approval, Ambassador."
Hulldom wrote:If there was a WA Court, or something similar to it, this wouldn't be a bad idea. I love this idea though.
OOC: I think the idea is still viable even though there isn't a WA Court WA law is a significant part of everyday life of the citizens of member nations, where multiple aspects of their life are protected of regulated by it. In the event of a legal issue where WA law is involved, having lawyers specialised in WA law would be invaluable, I think!
Daarwyrth wrote:OOC: I think the idea is still viable even though there isn't a WA Court WA law is a significant part of everyday life of the citizens of member nations, where multiple aspects of their life are protected of regulated by it. In the event of a legal issue where WA law is involved, having lawyers specialised in WA law would be invaluable, I think!
There is a WA court.
OOC: Yes, Tinhampton already noted that the resolution was written with that in mind, yet the comment I reacted to brought a little confusion into the game.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:29 pm
by Daarwyrth
Jylien Barwald, Press Secretary: "Feedback and commentary on this draft would be most welcome."
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:38 am
by Daarwyrth
OOC: Moving this to last call, so any additional last feedback would be absolutely amazing!
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:31 am
by Trellania
Dame Allania Trueblood wanders in, still holding her armful of scrolls and with a crow perched on her shoulder.
"By the Nightdancer's weighted skirts! This isn't my office either!"
She pauses a moment, then looks down at the draft and purses her lips. As she hits the bottom, she stands up straight.
"You have the full support of Trellania for this, and we plan to implement the suggested institutions regardless of if this proposal is ever submitted or passed."
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:33 am
by South St Maarten
IC: No additional comments after those above, South St Maarten lends its support towards this proposal
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:41 am
by Imperium Anglorum
There will always be more students than intern spots; moreover, for internships to mean anything they ought to be competitive. A direct 'get it if you want it' does not really help anyone.
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:55 pm
by Bananaistan
"Also on this internship thing. We do not believe that the WA should be promoting unpaid labour which can always only be a feasible option to those who are otherwise financially supported and actively acts against the international proletariat who do not have mammy and daddy paying their way while they lick some politician's arse."
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:05 pm
by Trellania
Bananaistan wrote:"Also on this internship thing. We do not believe that the WA should be promoting unpaid labour which can always only be a feasible option to those who are otherwise financially supported and actively acts against the international proletariat who do not have mammy and daddy paying their way while they lick some politician's arse."
"My nation has no problem with paid internships. We were planning to pay them anyway. They can't properly practice the skills they learn if they look like starved rats when they graduate."
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:08 pm
by Daarwyrth
Trellania wrote:Dame Allania Trueblood wanders in, still holding her armful of scrolls and with a crow perched on her shoulder.
"By the Nightdancer's weighted skirts! This isn't my office either!"
She pauses a moment, then looks down at the draft and purses her lips. As she hits the bottom, she stands up straight.
"You have the full support of Trellania for this, and we plan to implement the suggested institutions regardless of if this proposal is ever submitted or passed."
Maria vyn Nysen nods her head in gratitude. "Our delegation is delighted to hear such, Ambassador."
South St Maarten wrote:IC: No additional comments after those above, South St Maarten lends its support towards this proposal
The Daarwyrthian Represenative smiles. "Your input is always welcome, Ambassador, thank you for your support."
Bananaistan wrote:"Also on this internship thing. We do not believe that the WA should be promoting unpaid labour which can always only be a feasible option to those who are otherwise financially supported and actively acts against the international proletariat who do not have mammy and daddy paying their way while they lick some politician's arse."
Maria nodded in understanding and pursed her lips for a moment. "Would your delegation be for the removal of the Clause in its entirety, or to mend the Clause to be fairer? Such as paid internships?"
Imperium Anglorum wrote:There will always be more students than intern spots; moreover, for internships to mean anything they ought to be competitive. A direct 'get it if you want it' does not really help anyone.
OOC: Would a requirement of a specific involvement, achievement or motivation do the trick, or should it specify more extensively? I do see what you mean with the competitive remark and how that could merit students, but I have my personal doubts about whether education should be as competitive. In the end it's about learning and gaining experience, and I always believed that everyone should have access to that
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 4:52 pm
I admit I had not been aware of GA #422 at the time of writing the first draft, but I'm glad to hear there isn't too much friction between the two! I will definitely keep Article 2 of that resolution in mind when continuing to draft on this!