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by Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu May 13, 2010 5:16 pm
by American Capitalist » Thu May 13, 2010 5:27 pm
by Mushet » Thu May 13, 2010 5:41 pm
Aabceef wrote:Unibot wrote:Yelda wrote:Unibot wrote:OOC:
After reading this...NSO membership represented a variety of perspectives on national sovereignty, with some members choosing to advocate absolute sovereignty, others limited sovereignty, and still others holding very specific criteria regarding what constitutes sovereignty and to what extent the NSUN should respect it. Members were usually referred to as "sovereigntists" or "NatSovers", though the terms could also be used to describe adherents to the wider NS "sovereigntist movement," which included more extreme and anti-UN elements such as ACCEL and Gatesville. Most active members of NSO took a more pragmatic approach to sovereignty and the formulation of international law.
... if you'll have me, the Unibotian Delegation wouldn't mind joining the NSO. I can write up a formal letter, or a resume or whatever, if you like, Yelda.
There's no need for a formal letter or resume. In the past people simply joined by registering at the forum and then stating if they wanted to be full members or observers. Let's discuss this a bit more and see if we end up starting a new board. If we do that there wouldn't be much point in registering at the old one.
(posting with Yelda since Arororugul doesn't do OOC)
Okay Yelda, when you've figured out what you're going to do with this, give me a shout with a TG or whatever.
IC: Eduard paused, reading over a pamplet on the NSO. He motioned to ask the General something curiously,
"Is there a real difference between the observers and the members of the NSO? Or is the status of "observer" just to indicate to others that your nation's interests do not always align with the NatSov-extremist ideology? I suppose what I'm really asking is: is there a enforced-compliance in NSO for members to vote a certain way?" Eduard asked.
OOC: That's a really excellent read, I remember a few years back when someone pointed it out to me, I read it a few times over again to absorb it all -- it really should be a sticky on this forum for the new members to have access to (I mean, Jolt is .. err...Jolt -- you know what I mean).
I do think we should at least have a sign up list of people who wish receive a telegram whenever any such organization becomes active and we have a forum in place.
As for the difference between an observer and a member, I would also like to know what this is if anyone knows or can point to me where to find the info on what the difference was in the now defunct NSO forum between a member and an observer.
by The Palentine » Fri May 14, 2010 10:23 am
by Quadrimmina » Fri May 14, 2010 1:02 pm
by Enn » Fri May 14, 2010 4:19 pm
Quadrimmina wrote:Alright, so basically it's an organization of nations who advocated for national sovereignty and worked together to draft resolutions to further this and/or repeals?
by HotRodia » Mon May 17, 2010 5:13 pm
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Sagatagan wrote:Hell, I'VE never heard of the original poster.
Really? And you are...?
Well then, if we're all done recreating the scene with the smoking caterpillar from Alice in Wonderland, I'd like to move on to more relevant business here. We are delighted at the proposal to revamp the NSO; however, we cannot abide the suggestion that we simply build on the ruins of the former organization. That old saloon is haunted, I tell you! And I don't want our proceedings to be constantly interrupted by the Ghosts of Sovereigntists Past, with HotRodia's specter wandering the aisles, wailing, "In my day, you were all my puppets, and I would spend hours entertaining myself by pulling your strings! Now, dance, puppets, dance! AHAHAHAHA!!", or Chipmunks' spirit, moaning, "Your new microcredit resolution SUCKS!! Why, in my day, we didn't need layers upon layers of useless bureaucracy just to encourage microlending; we just assumed the gnomes would handle everything! Wooooo-oo-oo!", and so forth. That would be quite a distraction. So if it's all the same to everyone, I would prefer we open an all-new saloon, with old spirits (the drinks, not the sovereigntists) and young girls to perform for us -- rather than risk the ghost of Karmicaria wandering in and giving see-through lapdances to our bewildered new patrons.
Jack Riley
Secretary of State
by Enn » Tue May 18, 2010 4:25 am
HotRodia wrote:This Jack Riley fellow makes a great deal of sense. Leave the past in the past, and keep the present. Or just give it away. Everyone loves a good present. Where was I again?
HotRodian Ambassador to the World Assembly
Accelerus Dioce
by Enn » Tue May 18, 2010 10:15 pm
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by Oh my Days » Thu May 20, 2010 4:43 am
by Tarsas » Thu May 20, 2010 8:21 am
by Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu May 20, 2010 9:43 am
Oh my Days wrote:"National Sovereignty is key to allowing us to follow our National Socialist program, and as such we will gladly participate in this organisation. To those who object, we wish to point out that we must remain in The World Assembly to maintain an influence in The Security Council...
by Oh my Days » Thu May 20, 2010 11:24 am
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Oh my Days wrote:"National Sovereignty is key to allowing us to follow our National Socialist program, and as such we will gladly participate in this organisation. To those who object, we wish to point out that we must remain in The World Assembly to maintain an influence in The Security Council...
Then why join a General Assembly organization?
You also must have missed the point in the rules which states that banning ideologies is illegal. That is the key to allowing you to follow your detestable Nazi policies, not national sovereignty. Run along now.
- Jack Riley, Secy. of State
by Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu May 20, 2010 12:56 pm
Oh my Days wrote:The ambassador spluttered with laughter, before replying "of course banning ideologies is illegal, the WA can certainly infringe on them though. I believe that is why you set up a committee to find loopholes in resolutions, so you can ignore the sections you don't like."
by Oh my Days » Thu May 20, 2010 1:15 pm
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:The CSA was merely a means of thumbing our proverbial nose at an overbearing and anti-sovereigntist UN establishment.
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:If you imagine that we embrace sovereigntism to secure the "rights" of nations to exploit populist fears and prejudices, restrict civil liberties and advance a narrow-minded ideology, you are fooling only yourself.
by Nord schandliche » Thu May 20, 2010 3:17 pm
by Novus Niciae » Fri May 21, 2010 5:47 am
by Flibbleites » Fri May 21, 2010 7:23 am
Novus Niciae wrote:It is the opinion of the government of Novus Niciae that membership in the WA is voluntary and that there is a wide world of unregulated sovereignty out there for those who wish to take it. So we are wondering why they are sitting around in here objecting to us when they can leave at any time and ignore the WA with no ill effects whatsoever?
by Novus Niciae » Fri May 21, 2010 5:18 pm
Flibbleites wrote:Novus Niciae wrote:It is the opinion of the government of Novus Niciae that membership in the WA is voluntary and that there is a wide world of unregulated sovereignty out there for those who wish to take it. So we are wondering why they are sitting around in here objecting to us when they can leave at any time and ignore the WA with no ill effects whatsoever?
Because we believe that all nations shouldn't have to worry about undue restriction on their right to rule themselves how they see fit.
Bob Flibble
NSO Mafia Don
OOC: Besides, this is really the only part of the game that's kept me playing for all these years.
by HotRodia » Fri May 21, 2010 6:08 pm
Enn wrote:Well now, that's an accent I haven't heard for some time. Good to see you again!
Stephanie Fulton,
WA Ambassador for Enn
by Flibbleites » Sat May 22, 2010 7:37 am
Novus Niciae wrote:Flibbleites wrote:Novus Niciae wrote:It is the opinion of the government of Novus Niciae that membership in the WA is voluntary and that there is a wide world of unregulated sovereignty out there for those who wish to take it. So we are wondering why they are sitting around in here objecting to us when they can leave at any time and ignore the WA with no ill effects whatsoever?
Because we believe that all nations shouldn't have to worry about undue restriction on their right to rule themselves how they see fit.
Bob Flibble
NSO Mafia Don
OOC: Besides, this is really the only part of the game that's kept me playing for all these years.
But isn't the right chose to freely associate and collaborate with other nations one of the sovereign rights of a nation.
If you object to this part of sovereignty then what do you represent?
by Bears Armed » Sat May 22, 2010 10:26 am
Novus Niciae wrote:It is the opinion of the government of Novus Niciae that membership in the WA is voluntary and that there is a wide world of unregulated sovereignty out there for those who wish to take it. So we are wondering why they are sitting around in here objecting to us when they can leave at any time and ignore the WA with no ill effects whatsoever?
by Strictly Commercial » Tue May 25, 2010 2:46 pm
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