Rights for animals

[Munchsal]

The assembly of the republic of Munchsal has proposed that all animals, national and non-national,
they should have rights that protect them for the following reasons:
-Although animals do not have the same perspective on life that we have, they also feel.
-We consume animal products on a daily basis and we should thank the animals by giving them rights as well.
The rights that animals would have would be:
-They could not be hunted for recreational purposes.
-They would have the right not to be harmed, and citizens who fail to comply with this would be fined.
-Animals would have the right to live in their habitats and to continue with their lives without the human being influencing them.
Munchsal request that these rights be approved as animals need them.

[Tinhampton]

Delegate-Ambassador Alexander Smith: Opposed. If killing animals for food constitutes hunting them, the collapse of the meat farming industry across the World Assembly would result - which, of course, I am opposed to.

OOC: Opposed. If killing animals for food constitutes hunting them, the collapse of the meat farming industry across the World Assembly would result - which, of course, I am opposed to.

[Ardiveds]

OOC: accidently drowned an ant colony while watering your gardens? FINE!
Killed that annoying mosquito trying to give you dengue? FINE!
Trying to poison rats eating your crops? FINE!
Influencing that Raccoon by preventing it from rummaging through your trash? OFF TO GULAG!

[The Central Pacific Free State]

Strongly oppose. Not all countries have the monetary means to feed their population on "moral" food. I would take animal suffering over human suffering no matter how small any day of the week.
Apart from this. I dont think dealing with the rights of animals is the job of the assembly. We try to better the world for the countries and the people living in them, not for animals

[Atheris]

"Look, pal. If you're serious with this, then you'll find no hoorahs from me. I enjoy a chicken sandwich as much as the next guy, and I'm not gonna stand for taking away my rights to a juicy grilled club with bacon and colby jack. Oh, yeah, and there's the whole 'collapse of the economy' thing with the fourth clause. That's the term, right? Clause? Whatever." The unnamed ambassador shrugs.

OOC: Is this not illegal? "I request that these rights be approved as animals need them" constitutes a branding rulebreak if it's part of the proposal.

[Jedinsto]

The assembly of the republic of Munchsal has proposed that all animals, national and non-national,
they should have rights that protect them for the following reasons:
-Although animals do not have the same perspective on life that we have, they also feel.
-We consume animal products on a daily basis and we should thank the animals by giving them rights as well.
The rights that animals would have would be:
-They could not be hunted for recreational purposes.
-They would have the right not to be harmed, and citizens who fail to comply with this would be fined.
-Animals would have the right to live in their habitats and to continue with their lives without the human being influencing them.
I request that these rights be approved as animals need them.

Illegal for branding and contradictions, and, illegal or not, you need much better definitions, and giving animals the right to not be harmed with 0 exceptions kills the meat industry, and by banning the invasion of their habitats completely kills the logging industry, and residential and commercial development.

[Disgraces]

OOC: accidently drowned an ant colony while watering your gardens? FINE!
Killed that annoying mosquito trying to give you dengue? FINE!
Trying to poison rats eating your crops? FINE!
Influencing that Raccoon by preventing it from rummaging through your trash? OFF TO GULAG!

There is a big difference between what is coloquially called animals and insects

Anyway, the Master says "based"

[THE SlTH]

We the people of the Slth believe we are above such creatures, they are below our concern. The strong devour the weak. That is all.

[Port Ember]

Ambassador Lilly Publican crumbles up a copy of the draft with one hand, whilst using her other hand to take a vite of her bacon sandwich.

"Ambassador, you wish to outlaw the humane killing of animals outright? So you believe the entire world should only eat plants? Perhaps you should go and eat those said plants, instead of smoking them... You will singlehandedly cause world starvation and economic collapse. In summary - HELL NO. Also, this draft in its current form is illegal anyway."

[Goraria]

President David Pernoia would disagree with your statement. First of all it would collapses the economy well it would really collapses my economy as meat is the #1 demand in my country. It also reduces what the people eat which lowers down my civil rights. Oh yea also that no disturbing habitats part well that would also crumble the economy as I need lumber for trading. Plus I got national parks spread across the country and I don’t want to go too far by just making disturbing habitats illegal everywhere across the country. That will make farming and woodchopping illegal if you think about it. So make sure you think about what will happen when you make animals have rights.

[Ardiveds]

OOC: accidently drowned an ant colony while watering your gardens? FINE!
Killed that annoying mosquito trying to give you dengue? FINE!
Trying to poison rats eating your crops? FINE!
Influencing that Raccoon by preventing it from rummaging through your trash? OFF TO GULAG!

There is a big difference between what is coloquially called animals and insects

Anyway, the Master says "based"

OOC: creatures of the kingdom animalia are also called animals afaik. And it doesn't say whether the colloquial or scientific definition is to be used ao I say both are fair game.

[Island Girl Herby]

Okay so if one of our citizens ehhhhhh “accidentally” runs over a suicidal squirrel — not that we have many squirrels left since Great Rodent Exterm ehhhhh I mean Rodent Wars many years ago — we hafta fine them?

[Goraria]

This topic has been inactive lately. I should stop now.

[Munchsal]

OOC: accidently drowned an ant colony while watering your gardens? FINE!
Killed that annoying mosquito trying to give you dengue? FINE!
Trying to poison rats eating your crops? FINE!
Influencing that Raccoon by preventing it from rummaging through your trash? OFF TO GULAG!

That is the idea, to make people aware that they must protect the environment at all costs; Why do you think Munchsal is a supporter of corporal punishment?

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC: accidently drowned an ant colony while watering your gardens? FINE!
Killed that annoying mosquito trying to give you dengue? FINE!
Trying to poison rats eating your crops? FINE!
Influencing that Raccoon by preventing it from rummaging through your trash? OFF TO GULAG!

That is the idea, to make people aware that they must protect the environment at all costs; Why do you think Munchsal is a supporter of corporal punishment?

OOC: You don't see why an enforcement system that bans pest control for health and safety, prevents development, and grinds sapient development to a halt is bad?

[Munchsal]

That is the idea, to make people aware that they must protect the environment at all costs; Why do you think Munchsal is a supporter of corporal punishment?

OOC: You don't see why an enforcement system that bans pest control for health and safety, prevents development, and grinds sapient development to a halt is bad?

Society will get used to it over time.

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC: You don't see why an enforcement system that bans pest control for health and safety, prevents development, and grinds sapient development to a halt is bad?

Society will get used to it over time.

"Not really, since society will continue to degrade with such restrictions in place."

[Greater Cesnica]

The assembly of the republic of Munchsal has proposed that all animals, national and non-national,
they should have rights that protect them for the following reasons:
-Although animals do not have the same perspective on life that we have, they also feel.
-We consume animal products on a daily basis and we should thank the animals by giving them rights as well.
The rights that animals would have would be:
-They could not be hunted for recreational purposes.
-They would have the right not to be harmed, and citizens who fail to comply with this would be fined.
-Animals would have the right to live in their habitats and to continue with their lives without the human being influencing them.
I request that these rights be approved as animals need them.

"Why, this is rich. The same delegation which seeks to permit human slavery is concerned about animal rights."

[Munchsal]

The assembly of the republic of Munchsal has proposed that all animals, national and non-national,
they should have rights that protect them for the following reasons:
-Although animals do not have the same perspective on life that we have, they also feel.
-We consume animal products on a daily basis and we should thank the animals by giving them rights as well.
The rights that animals would have would be:
-They could not be hunted for recreational purposes.
-They would have the right not to be harmed, and citizens who fail to comply with this would be fined.
-Animals would have the right to live in their habitats and to continue with their lives without the human being influencing them.
I request that these rights be approved as animals need them.

"Why, this is rich. The same delegation which seeks to permit human slavery is concerned about animal rights."

What's wrong with wanting to return Munchsal to the old days, when slavery was legal and animals ran happily through the countryside?

[Separatist Peoples]

"Why, this is rich. The same delegation which seeks to permit human slavery is concerned about animal rights."

What's wrong with wanting to return Munchsal to the old days, when slavery was legal and animals ran happily through the countryside?

"Because it destroys all other society. Why is that something we should support?"

[Sincluda]

"Opposed on all fronts. This is poorly drafted, and it is clear that the author has not contemplated the rules. The author also fails to understand the needs of poorer countries and is not specific about what constitutes an animal being influenced, and the accidental harming of animals is an everyday occurrence that would cause bankruptcy in the average citizen in a few weeks.

I would suggest the author focus more specifically on different parts of animal rights/humane treatment (see other resolutions for reference), instead of a broad topic that is difficult to make clear legislation on."

[Kenmoria]

"Why, this is rich. The same delegation which seeks to permit human slavery is concerned about animal rights."

What's wrong with wanting to return Munchsal to the old days, when slavery was legal and animals ran happily through the countryside?

“There are many, many things wrong with that. The violation of civil rights as well as sensible economic policy are strong arguments against slavery, while this particular form of law against animal cruelty is wildly impractical. Your first idea about slavery is a non-starter, and I advise you not to pursue this avenue of legislation further. Your proposed regulations about animal cruelty are not so impossible but need to be heavily relaxed.”

[Sincluda]

"Why, this is rich. The same delegation which seeks to permit human slavery is concerned about animal rights."

What's wrong with wanting to return Munchsal to the old days, when slavery was legal and animals ran happily through the countryside?

"If all you care about is changing your own country, than perhaps this legislation is best reserved for your own nation, rather than that of the entire Assembly."

[Trellania]

Dame Allania Trueblood looks at the proposal and tilts her head.

"Given both this and the want to legalize slavery... I am forced to wonder what your nation ate to provide certain necessary nutrients humans require that are found primarily in meat."

[Munchsal]

What's wrong with wanting to return Munchsal to the old days, when slavery was legal and animals ran happily through the countryside?

"Because it destroys all other society. Why is that something we should support?"

The time when empires were at their peak, the time when there was a world to discover, the time when the world was simpler, is that time that you should support this.