NationStates

Untecna wrote:

Neymarland wrote:A nation can just "convict" someone of that then they are gone from the world.

You clearly don't understand what a draft is. If you have an issue, you can tell Tinfect in that draft and not here.

Neymarland wrote:

Starting with "I am completely fully against this proposal. why is here:" is already scaring me.

OOC: Is someone not agreeing to you ideology "scary?" If so, this is not the game for you.

Okay, calm down buddy, let's sit down and talk. First off, no state has the right to mass murder, and there are resolutions that already cover that, second, capital punishment DOES NOT EQUAL mass murder.

As I said, capital punishment IS USED WRONGLY by many nations. And if there are resolutions to cover this, then why is this proposal here?

r/facepalm

I just oppose the act, I never said I am insulted. You can do it for all I care.

Do you even understand what capital punishment is? Because I can assure you, most, and yes, some nations decide to do no-no things but MOST OF US DON'T, and we use capital punishment as the top punishment, and it is reserved for particularly heinous crimes -cough- Murder, rape, etc. -cough-.

Capital punishment, also known as the death penalty, is a state-sanctioned practice of killing someone as a punishment for a crime. The sentence ordering that someone is punished with the death penalty is called a death sentence, and the act of carrying out such a sentence is known as an execution. A prisoner awaiting his or her execution is condemned and is "on death row". Crimes that are punishable by death are known as capital crimes, capital offences or capital felonies, and vary depending on the jurisdiction, but commonly include serious offences against individuals such as murder, mass murder, aggravated cases of rape, child rape, child sexual abuse, terrorism, war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide and offences against the state including attempting to overthrow government, treason, espionage, sedition, piracy, aircraft hijacking, drug trafficking, drug dealing and drug possession and in some cases acts of recidivism, aggravated robbery, and kidnapping.

But, just because most of us don't, we let nations who do go do what they want willy-nilly? And if you use capital punishment for only those things, good job, I congratulate you. But you aren't the only nation out there.

Excuse me, but who's arguments are pitiful again?

From the info above, yours.

Neymarland wrote:

Untecna wrote:You clearly don't understand what a draft is. If you have an issue, you can tell Tinfect in that draft and not here.

A draft is a early form of a, in this case, proposal, and is usually revised several times. The revised part is something needed heavily

Untecna wrote:

Neymarland wrote:
OOC: Is someone not agreeing to you ideology "scary?" If so, this is not the game for you.



As I said, capital punishment IS USED WRONGLY by many nations. And if there are resolutions to cover this, then why is this proposal here?



I just oppose the act, I never said I am insulted. You can do it for all I care.



Capital punishment, also known as the death penalty, is a state-sanctioned practice of killing someone as a punishment for a crime. The sentence ordering that someone is punished with the death penalty is called a death sentence, and the act of carrying out such a sentence is known as an execution. A prisoner awaiting his or her execution is condemned and is "on death row". Crimes that are punishable by death are known as capital crimes, capital offences or capital felonies, and vary depending on the jurisdiction, but commonly include serious offences against individuals such as murder, mass murder, aggravated cases of rape, child rape, child sexual abuse, terrorism, war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide and offences against the state including attempting to overthrow government, treason, espionage, sedition, piracy, aircraft hijacking, drug trafficking, drug dealing and drug possession and in some cases acts of recidivism, aggravated robbery, and kidnapping.

But, just because most of us don't, we let nations who do go do what they want willy-nilly? And if you use capital punishment for only those things, good job, I congratulate you. But you aren't the only nation out there.



From the info above, yours.

I don't want to keep arguing... Let's get this over with.
First, clearly, you know the DEFINITION of capital punishment, what you don't know, as I implied, was that of how it was used, especially with the many nations on NS that have it as a policy. No two nations are completely the same. Of course, I should ave worded that differently, that is an issue on my part, and my apologies.
Second, the only reason I was afraid of your OP was because of how you worded that introduction. No offense, but it sounded really like I was going to pulled down into a rabbit hole, which, as you can see, I did. Jolly good for me.
Third, your still a bit wet behind the ears, why don't you stop arguing like we are wrong with what we are saying.

And before anyone else decides to reply about that third part, trust me, I've learned.

My apologies for inconveniencing your time that could be well spent elsewhere.

Neymarland wrote:
A draft is a early form of a, in this case, proposal, and is usually revised several times. The revised part is something needed heavily

Must you take everything literally?

Neymarland wrote:

Untecna wrote:I don't want to keep arguing... Let's get this over with.
First, clearly, you know the DEFINITION of capital punishment, what you don't know, as I implied, was that of how it was used, especially with the many nations on NS that have it as a policy. No two nations are completely the same. Of course, I should ave worded that differently, that is an issue on my part, and my apologies.
Second, the only reason I was afraid of your OP was because of how you worded that introduction. No offense, but it sounded really like I was going to pulled down into a rabbit hole, which, as you can see, I did. Jolly good for me.
Third, your still a bit wet behind the ears, why don't you stop arguing like we are wrong with what we are saying.

And before anyone else decides to reply about that third part, trust me, I've learned.

My apologies for inconveniencing your time that could be well spent elsewhere.


Must you take everything literally?

I would of ended this lively debate too, if you didn't mention it out to your entire region. But yes, I also apologize for not settling and letting you take the best of me. It's a debate. You don't let the other person win. Debate is like sport. But, a draw is never as common, eh? Well, this rabbit hole you have been "shoved" in, mostly was you poking in a debate. I'd say you got curious. And, also, my time is spent on the debate floor. You never get a rest, do you? And, you are not wrong with what you are saying, it's just your way of thinking, and I have mine. And just that no two nations are the same, that doesn't mean they have all different attributes.

I hope we will find the time to participate in the sport of debate again.

Untecna wrote:

Neymarland wrote:
I would of ended this lively debate too, if you didn't mention it out to your entire region. But yes, I also apologize for not settling and letting you take the best of me. It's a debate. You don't let the other person win. Debate is like sport. But, a draw is never as common, eh? Well, this rabbit hole you have been "shoved" in, mostly was you poking in a debate. I'd say you got curious. And, also, my time is spent on the debate floor. You never get a rest, do you? And, you are not wrong with what you are saying, it's just your way of thinking, and I have mine. And just that no two nations are the same, that doesn't mean they have all different attributes.

I hope we will find the time to participate in the sport of debate again.

No thanks, I actually would like to spend my time doing other things. Incessantly arguing is not one.

Separatist Peoples wrote:

Untecna wrote:No thanks, I actually would like to spend my time doing other things. Incessantly arguing is not one.

"Then perhaps the General Assembly is not for you."

OOC: Then perhaps the General Assembly is not for you.

Untecna wrote:

Separatist Peoples wrote:"Then perhaps the General Assembly is not for you."

OOC: Then perhaps the General Assembly is not for you.

I didn't require the comment, Separatist.

Untecna wrote:

Separatist Peoples wrote:"Then perhaps the General Assembly is not for you."

OOC: Then perhaps the General Assembly is not for you.

I didn't require the comment, Separatist.

Greater Cesnica wrote:

Untecna wrote:I didn't require the comment, Separatist.

OOC: Sep can post that comment whenever he so pleases. There is no thread ownership in the GA.

Separatist Peoples wrote:

Untecna wrote:I didn't require the comment, Separatist.

Ooc: Perhaps. Neymarland may have, though.

Neymarland wrote:

Separatist Peoples wrote:Ooc: Perhaps. Neymarland may have, though.

Ambassador M'bappe doesn't hear over his football training music.

Separatist Peoples wrote:

Neymarland wrote:Ambassador M'bappe doesn't hear over his football training music.

Ooc: shame, since it was supporting your argument.

Tinfect wrote:OOC:
This is still coming, and will be submitted following whatever the result of the current vote is.

The Candy Of Bottles wrote:Full support for any repeal of the legislation in question, without replacement. Regrettably, the death penalty is simply necessary in some cases.

Neymarland wrote:

The Candy Of Bottles wrote:Full support for any repeal of the legislation in question, without replacement. Regrettably, the death penalty is simply necessary in some cases.

"Like what cases, Ambassador? If you don't state them, there's no proof."

The Candy Of Bottles wrote:

Neymarland wrote:"Like what cases, Ambassador? If you don't state them, there's no proof."

Oh, mass murdering psychopaths, traitors with any remaining support (considering we're a democracy, constitutional elective monarchy really, the only reason they'd try is to override the will of the people), necromancers, intelligent demons... That kind of thing. Something tells me most of the nations voting to take the option to just execute them and end the threat permanently off the table altogether have never had to deal with the type. If you know certain video game franchises, people like Ganondorf or Demise. We're not exactly supporting execution for cucumber thieves here.

OOC: There's that Italian lady who made her victims into soap for one... Not even kidding, look it up.

Neymarland wrote:And The Armed Republic of Neymarland is just in what they call High-Security Criminals. And we aren't as pagan as you. We know, well, that the only God is not yours.

Tinfect wrote:

Neymarland wrote:And The Armed Republic of Neymarland is just in what they call High-Security Criminals. And we aren't as pagan as you. We know, well, that the only God is not yours.

OOC:
If you have nothing to add but incoherent rambling and childish sniping, you are free to stop spamming the thread.

Neymarland wrote:This forum has freedom of speech.

Etiquette Rules wrote:It's free speech, so I can post whatever I like here, right?

Ahahahaha! Hahaha! Free speech! No, it's not. I run this web site, see, so you have to play by my rules. It's like my own Father Knows Best state.

Picairn wrote:

Neymarland wrote:This forum has freedom of speech.

Etiquette Rules wrote:It's free speech, so I can post whatever I like here, right?

Ahahahaha! Hahaha! Free speech! No, it's not. I run this web site, see, so you have to play by my rules. It's like my own Father Knows Best state.

Neymarland wrote:OOC: By that I mean I can at least voice my own opinion. It's not insulting, or racist, or anything no no. And, you guys are listening to a Condemned nation, so I wouldn't jump on his bandwagon too soon.