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Gabingston
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Postby Gabingston » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:58 pm

This is bullcrap, you're telling me I should leave psychopath serial killers in a prison and give them a chance to escape?

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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:09 pm

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Mayor Saffron Howard (UCP): Our World Assembly delegation's proposal does not regulate corporal punishment.

Gabingston wrote:This is bullcrap, you're telling me I should leave psychopath serial killers in a prison and give them a chance to escape?

No, that would probably be somebody else :P. GA#535 restricts the death penalty's implementation to "crimes under a military penal code committed during time of war."
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Postby Neymarland » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:59 pm

The Candy Of Bottles wrote:
Neymarland wrote:And your's are far from universal too. My vote has been cast, and changing it is not an option. If they pose too great of an escape risk, then improve your prison system, not go to death. And, as much as it regrets me to say this, if they are impossible to reform, then leave them there.

Considering some of our citizens are literally capable of teleportation, there's only so much that can be done short of the guillotine. It's not like we can just cut off their horn and leave it at that, considering that would be like cutting off your hands and leaving you alive.

Then, our citizens are capable of turning half the universe into dust. You might say "But it's true!" I say, thats a problem only you have, and you are not the only person that matters.
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Postby Serpaa » Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:25 pm

Picairn wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:No.

I concur. Brutal dictators and genocidal megalomaniacs should be executed.[/quote}
The great confederacy of serpaa fully agrees with this statement

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Texkentuck
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More life agenda stuff

Postby Texkentuck » Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:45 pm

My nation believes execution is only appropriate "in cases of absolute necessity, in other words, when it would not be possible otherwise to defend society. We've voted for the death penalty ban and this would hinder nations that don't have a prison or the capability of holding prisoners and this proposal put forward could make the system in allowing the muck to run wild. Thankful Texkentuck left the WA. Overall our prison system is good and we are a pro-life and anti-death nation. I think this shouldn't be in the WA up for vote. It must recognize an alternative for nations to send prisoners that can't hold these people accountable. The WA doesn't understand human rights. A right isn't a right when it involves taking rights from someone else. That's the simplicity in our government in why were pro-life and anti-death penalty. Also we do have a strong justice system. I would vote NO on this proposal because I voted yes on Anti-death Penalty.
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United Socialist States of Amerika
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Postby United Socialist States of Amerika » Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:17 pm

I feel that I have to vote against this resolution. The wording of clause B leaves this resolution vulnerable to repeal, and relatively easily worked around. Our nation voted for the Death Penalty Ban. I feel that the wording must be more iron clad with respect to any/ all of its clauses leaving it vulnerable to either repeal or easily worked around. If we are going to "ban" something, it needs to be done in a more iron clad fashion, with very strictly defined & limited exceptions in extraordinary cases, if even that.
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Postby The Palentine » Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:46 pm

My Empress has instructed the delegation that our vote against is for purely spiteful reasons. She finds many of those voting for the ban on the death penalty to be hypocrites when it comes to issues of sapient life. This decision might be seen as spiteful, petty and beneath the so called dignity of the Festering Snakepit by many here, but there are times my beloved Empress can be a mean, petty, and spiteful person.

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The Dominion of Mankind
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Postby The Dominion of Mankind » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:28 am

What an utterly absurd proposal, was the last one not enough for your poor bleeding heart?

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Postby Vexilia » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:49 am

IC: Against,
Potentially interferes with the internal judiciary system of the Autocratic Republic.
Although straightforward and the message gets across, it leaves areas up to interpretation.
No definition of "Sapient Life". Does this include artificial citizens? Is it reserved to those who are deemed to "have a soul"?
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Galaician Empire
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Postby Galaician Empire » Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:34 am

Vexilia wrote:IC: Against,
Potentially interferes with the internal judiciary system of the Autocratic Republic.
Although straightforward and the message gets across, it leaves areas up to interpretation.
No definition of "Sapient Life". Does this include artificial citizens? Is it reserved to those who are deemed to "have a soul"?


The Galaician Empire would certainly hope this includes artificial life, however it would be useful to know if the WA has an official stance on how to measure wisdom so we know which life forms would be protected under the new law.

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The Greater Gothic Empire
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Postby The Greater Gothic Empire » Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:40 am

Gabingston wrote:This is bullcrap, you're telling me I should leave psychopath serial killers in a prison and give them a chance to escape?

"I feel you. If we let such vermin, even pedophiles and lowlife bigots escape prison under the pretext of granting them 'pardon' and a 'second chance', how much more our socities would fall under their spell in the name of 'tolerance' as if tolerating these high grade criminals is tolerant?"

"Aaahh, sentient life, shmentient life, I am voting AGAINST this proposal. Why not scrap the whole mainstream system and put to death democratic governments who also happen to be underworld bordellos? Pacifism doesn't make any sense."
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The Cratoputanian stance on the resolution

Postby Cratoputania » Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:45 am

Read below the official Bulletin of the Cratoputanian government, "On Protecting Sapient Life".

I, the government of the USS of Cratoputania, deeply urge
all of my colleagues, especially our neighbours in the East Pacific
region, to vote in favor of the proposed World Assembly
resolution. Human life must be protected at all costs, it should
be a priority for all of us. Executing people under "Martial Law"
should be inacceptable to all of us.
The USS of Cratoputania will continue to work on the world
stage for Human Rights and the abolishment of cruel acts
violating them.
God bless the United socialist states of cratoputania, God bless
the East Pacific, and God bless the people of all NationStates!

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Neymarland
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Postby Neymarland » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:35 am

Cratoputania wrote:Read below the official Bulletin of the Cratoputanian government, "On Protecting Sapient Life".

I, the government of the USS of Cratoputania, deeply urge
all of my colleagues, especially our neighbours in the East Pacific
region, to vote in favor of the proposed World Assembly
resolution. Human life must be protected at all costs, it should
be a priority for all of us. Executing people under "Martial Law"
should be inacceptable to all of us.
The USS of Cratoputania will continue to work on the world
stage for Human Rights and the abolishment of cruel acts
violating them.
God bless the United socialist states of cratoputania, God bless
the East Pacific, and God bless the people of all NationStates!

Amazing work. People say vulnerable to repeals, but we just gotta work with it till we get a better one in.
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Postby Picairn » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:49 am

Neymarland wrote:Amazing work. People say vulnerable to repeals, but we just gotta work with it till we get a better one in.

Judging by the widening gap between Yea and Nay votes, this one isn't gonna pass.
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Postby Neymarland » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:55 am

Picairn wrote:
Neymarland wrote:Amazing work. People say vulnerable to repeals, but we just gotta work with it till we get a better one in.

Judging by the widening gap between Yea and Nay votes, this one isn't gonna pass.

Still kinda iffy. A proposal with a resolution tweak could push a new one just past acceptance. This one, I'd say, has a fifth chance of passing.
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Postby Picairn » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:00 am

Neymarland wrote:Still kinda iffy. A proposal with a resolution tweak could push a new one just past acceptance. This one, I'd say, has a fifth chance of passing.

How exactly can you "tweak" the language of a full ban?
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Postby Ardiveds » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:00 am

Picairn wrote:
Neymarland wrote:Still kinda iffy. A proposal with a resolution tweak could push a new one just past acceptance. This one, I'd say, has a fifth chance of passing.

How exactly can you "tweak" the language of a full ban?

OOC: Capital punishment can only be used for a murder that was committed on a blue moon, in a leap year, under a mistletoe and using a baseball bat only if the nation is also in a state of armed conflict.
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Postby Neymarland » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:10 am

Picairn wrote:
Neymarland wrote:Still kinda iffy. A proposal with a resolution tweak could push a new one just past acceptance. This one, I'd say, has a fifth chance of passing.

How exactly can you "tweak" the language of a full ban?

Wording. Most nations that invest heavily in criminal deportation would say no. That is what most likely pushed it into the Against territory.
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Postby Bonchow1 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:51 am

I find myself supporting the intent behind the bill, but am in agreement with my colleagues who point out its flaws. Many of the world's most dangerous people could wield significant power, even from behind bars or in a remote environment, and directly cause suffering of others.

Perhaps if a suitable alternative to the Death Penalty could be proposed? Isolated exile, and the seizure of the guilty party's assets, would go a long way towards actually limiting their ability to influence the world outside. Enforced medical coma's would be a guaranteed way of shutting down such influence without execution, although this is both an expensive solution and a morally questionable one.

I would ask this bills' supporters to suggest their own alternatives to the death penalty, if they wish to ban it outright, for the commiting of war crimes, treason, mass murder, and/or other extreme crimes of such magnitude. The solutions I have outlined earlier are either costly to maintain (money that may be put to better use in the betterment of their civilization), or so morally questionable in their own right that a quick, clean execution may even be kinder.

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Postby Neymarland » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:13 am

Ardiveds wrote:
Picairn wrote:How exactly can you "tweak" the language of a full ban?

OOC: Capital punishment can only be used for a murder that was committed on a blue moon, in a leap year, under a mistletoe and using a baseball bat only if the nation is also in a state of armed conflict.

Exactly.
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Postby Neymarland » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:19 am

My WA delegate just told me to vote against on this resolution. Should I listen?
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Postby Picairn » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:19 am

Neymarland wrote:
Ardiveds wrote:OOC: Capital punishment can only be used for a murder that was committed on a blue moon, in a leap year, under a mistletoe and using a baseball bat only if the nation is also in a state of armed conflict.

Exactly.

That would guarantee automatic No votes though, it's way too ridiculous.
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Postby Neymarland » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:24 am

Picairn wrote:
Neymarland wrote:Exactly.

That would guarantee automatic No votes though, it's way too ridiculous.

You need to stop taking things to literally. Obviously, no one would put it into a WA proposal. An Issue, maybe.
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Postby Hellenic Exusia » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:59 am

Tinhampton wrote:
GO AND VOTE
This proposal has been submitted to the General Assembly Civil Rights Board.
NOTE: at 2030 GMT or so on the 27th of January 2021, this proposal reached quorum with Saint Jonas' approval, the 58th all told. At 0643 GMT on the 28th of January 2021, this proposal returned to quorum with Smiley Bob's approval, also the 58th all told.

Character count: 757
Word count: 114
You will note that Death Penalty Ban allows for the death penalty for "crimes under a military penal code committed during time of war." IA has asserted that this is because support for an outright ban is "unclear." There's only one way to find out...
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Protecting Sapient Life
A resolution to improve worldwide human sapient and civil rights.
Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Tinhampton

Recognising that GA#535 "Death Penalty Ban," while outlawing capital punishment in most circumstances, permits its deployment under military law in some circumstances, and

Seeking to abolish capital punishment in all circumstances across the WA, for reasons that have been stated in at least three different resolutions...

The General Assembly hereby:
  1. forbids the imposition of the death penalty in all cases where such has not already been prohibited by prior and standing international law, and
  2. prohibits members from deporting any person to a nation where said person faces a reasonable possibility of being sentenced to death for the crimes they have been charged with committing.
Co-authored with Gorundu.


The General Assembly hereby:
  1. forbids the imposition of the death penalty in all cases, subject to prior and standing international law, and
  2. prohibits members from deporting any person that could be sentenced to death to a state that permits the death penalty.



Opposed.

The Imperial council of Hellenic Exusia shall not remove and reform any penal laws since are part of the constitution of His Majesty's people's Empire of Hellenes. This unorthodox decision only brings chaos to our well regulated socioeconomic system. Additionally this decision directly intercepts and even violates the sovereignty as well as dismisses the internal devices of all nations participating to this glorious World Assembly. It is but a preposterous and ignorant Ultimatum!
Nevertheless, we openly declare that we will continue execute felonious individuals in other ways, If this resolution passes. This "BAN" will just be an inconvenience for the masterful machine that our government is. A resolution so absolute such as this will bring division amongst our Assembly, not justice.

The Imperial council hereby disproves greatly and stands against intervention to matters essential such as this to the sovereignty of a nation.
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Postby Tell Me That Again » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:02 am

Hellenic Exusia wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:
GO AND VOTE
This proposal has been submitted to the General Assembly Civil Rights Board.
NOTE: at 2030 GMT or so on the 27th of January 2021, this proposal reached quorum with Saint Jonas' approval, the 58th all told. At 0643 GMT on the 28th of January 2021, this proposal returned to quorum with Smiley Bob's approval, also the 58th all told.

Character count: 757
Word count: 114
You will note that Death Penalty Ban allows for the death penalty for "crimes under a military penal code committed during time of war." IA has asserted that this is because support for an outright ban is "unclear." There's only one way to find out...
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Protecting Sapient Life
A resolution to improve worldwide human sapient and civil rights.
Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Tinhampton

Recognising that GA#535 "Death Penalty Ban," while outlawing capital punishment in most circumstances, permits its deployment under military law in some circumstances, and
I second this statement.
Seeking to abolish capital punishment in all circumstances across the WA, for reasons that have been stated in at least three different resolutions...

The General Assembly hereby:
  1. forbids the imposition of the death penalty in all cases where such has not already been prohibited by prior and standing international law, and
  2. prohibits members from deporting any person to a nation where said person faces a reasonable possibility of being sentenced to death for the crimes they have been charged with committing.
Co-authored with Gorundu.


The General Assembly hereby:
  1. forbids the imposition of the death penalty in all cases, subject to prior and standing international law, and
  2. prohibits members from deporting any person that could be sentenced to death to a state that permits the death penalty.



Opposed.

The Imperial council of Hellenic Exusia shall not remove and reform any penal laws since are part of the constitution of His majesty's people Empire of Hellenes. This unorthodox decision only brings chaos to our well regulated socioeconomic system. Additionally this decision directly intercepts and even violates the sovereignty as well as dismissing the internal devices of all nations participating to this glorious World Assembly. It is but a preposterous and ignorant Ultimatum!
Never the less, we openly declare that Judgement will in other ways find those individuals if a preposterous law like this passes, this "BAN" will just be an inconvenience for the masterful machine that is our government. A law so absolute such as this will bring division amongst our Assembly, not justice.

The Imperial council hereby disproves greatly and stand against intervention to matters essential such as this to the sovereignty of a nation.
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