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by Kenmoria » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:03 am
by Sierra Lyricalia » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:43 am
Appalled that this resolution stands in the way of preventing the execution of innocent persons for crimes they did not commit, an atrocity that will continue to occur so as long as this resolution remains in force,
by Greater Cesnica » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:47 am
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:OOC: Wait a minute.Appalled that this resolution stands in the way of preventing the execution of innocent persons for crimes they did not commit, an atrocity that will continue to occur so as long as this resolution remains in force,
There's literally a resolution on the books called "Preventing the Execution of Innocents." Between that and there being nothing in the target that stops nations from running all kinds of appeals processes and the like, does anyone else see the potential Honest Mistake in this clause?
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by Imperium Anglorum » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:50 am
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:OOC: Wait a minute.Appalled that this resolution stands in the way of preventing the execution of innocent persons for crimes they did not commit, an atrocity that will continue to occur so as long as this resolution remains in force,
There's literally a resolution on the books called "Preventing the Execution of Innocents." Between that and there being nothing in the target that stops nations from running all kinds of appeals processes and the like, does anyone else see the potential Honest Mistake in this clause?
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:51 am
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:OOC: Wait a minute.Appalled that this resolution stands in the way of preventing the execution of innocent persons for crimes they did not commit, an atrocity that will continue to occur so as long as this resolution remains in force,
There's literally a resolution on the books called "Preventing the Execution of Innocents." Between that and there being nothing in the target that stops nations from running all kinds of appeals processes and the like, does anyone else see the potential Honest Mistake in this clause?
And whereas it is best to set a compromise, where the Assembly does its best efforts to permit, with effective regulations, capital punishment so to best reduce the chance of it falling upon those who have not committed the crime they are accused of:
by Wallenburg » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:54 am
by Neymarland » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:48 pm
by Gatchina » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:23 pm
Wallenburg wrote:This repeal is a joke. Fully opposed.
by Kissassia » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:00 pm
by Hverland » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:35 pm
Kissassia wrote:Kissassia's response:
"While some in the World Assembly may find it laudable to repeal capital punishment, and they are certainly welcome to ban capital punishment in their own countries, it would be unfair to interfere with the customs of other countries in a matter that ultimately comes down to personal opinion rather than life or political outlook. The only ban on capital punishment that should take place, in Kissassia's opinion, is a ban on any country executing a person who is not a citizen of that country. For this repeal, Kissassia is voting a strong against."
by -Astoria- » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:35 pm
Neymarland wrote:I'm all for this. By the way, looks extremely formal and polished. Great job on the proposal.
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by Neymarland » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:31 am
by Greater Cesnica » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:02 am
Neymarland wrote:For those whom say capital punishment should be taken into a countries hands, the capital punishment ends lives, and inmates have a chance for counseling and rehabilitation, so any thing ending lives, in my opinion, outside of militaristic reasons, should also be decided by the WA.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Kenmoria » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:17 am
Kissassia wrote:Kissassia's response:
"While some in the World Assembly may find it laudable to repeal capital punishment, and they are certainly welcome to ban capital punishment in their own countries, it would be unfair to interfere with the customs of other countries in a matter that ultimately comes down to personal opinion rather than life or political outlook. The only ban on capital punishment that should take place, in Kissassia's opinion, is a ban on any country executing a person who is not a citizen of that country. For this repeal, Kissassia is voting a strong against."
by Denethoria » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:09 am
by Kissassia » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:06 am
Kenmoria wrote:“The GA interferes in countries’ customs all the time, ambassador. If we are defining a ‘custom’ as ‘something that is done’, then the GA has prohibited torture, executions for non-murderers, war crimes, some child labour, and a lot of environmentally-damaging actions. This is the purpose of an international legislature.”
by Kissassia » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:10 am
Neymarland wrote:For those whom say capital punishment should be taken into a countries hands, the capital punishment ends lives, and inmates have a chance for counseling and rehabilitation, so any thing ending lives, in my opinion, outside of militaristic reasons, should also be decided by the WA.
by Greater Cesnica » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:15 am
Kissassia wrote:Neymarland wrote:For those whom say capital punishment should be taken into a countries hands, the capital punishment ends lives, and inmates have a chance for counseling and rehabilitation, so any thing ending lives, in my opinion, outside of militaristic reasons, should also be decided by the WA.
While this is true in many cases, there are rare cases where rehabilitation is impossible due to factors including, but not limited to: the inmate's view on life, sadistic tendencies, or anarchistic tendencies that view laws against murder as pointless.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Neymarland » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:19 am
by Greater Cesnica » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:32 am
Neymarland wrote:Just because that is apparent in a few inmates, most do not have this problem. And, due to those problems, they might of not acted out of malicious intent in the crimes that brought them into jail. This also means that those inmate suffering from those effects should not deserve the death penalty.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Aguera » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:43 am
by Kissassia » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:54 am
Greater Cesnica wrote:Neymarland wrote:Just because that is apparent in a few inmates, most do not have this problem. And, due to those problems, they might of not acted out of malicious intent in the crimes that brought them into jail. This also means that those inmate suffering from those effects should not deserve the death penalty.
Not to mention, there is no inherent necessity in executing an individual. At the end of the day, imprisonment is a means to protect society from those deemed to pose a danger to the public. Capital punishment adds nothing except the perceived notion of 'justice', or 'revenge', or the false assumption of 'deterrence'.
by Piacentine » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:15 pm
by Imperium Anglorum » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:21 pm
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