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Devoing
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[DRAFT] Ethical Killing of fish

Postby Devoing » Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:29 am

ACKNOLOGING any and all negative stimuli that may be experienced by fish when suffocating.

NOTING the potential effects of the taste of a fish after suffocation takes place.

FORMALLY ACCEPTING that fish feel pain.

NOTING the potential effects of the taste of a fish after suffocation takes place.

MANDATING the use of spiking and/or percussive stunning in fish farms, fish caught by fishermen working for profit (excluding
cichliformes, and gobiesocidade, and smaller scombriformes, which are subject to mass commercial fishing).

HENCEFORTH,

1. The World Assembly realizes the possible negative effects of using suffocation as a method of killing fish, along with the ethical issues that come along with it.

2. The World Assembly realizes the potential of fish being able to feel pain or a similar negative stimulation.


3. The resolution mandates the use spiking and percussive stunning (in non-commercial fishing of small fish, see above).


4. The World Assembly abolishes the use of suffocation as a method of killing in member nations (in non-commercial fishing of small fish, see above).

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Postby Devoing » Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:46 am

I'm looking for criticism, it'd be appreciated.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:00 pm

"This doesn't strike me as an issue, per se. If different methods of dispatching commercial fish are more economical, they would likely be used. If not, that hardly seems to be our concern. This comes down to a moral proposition regarding the suffering of fish, and I am not convinced that you have articulated a strong defense of your premise, ambassador."

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Postby Devoing » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:18 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:"This doesn't strike me as an issue, per se. If different methods of dispatching commercial fish are more economical, they would likely be used. If not, that hardly seems to be our concern. This comes down to a moral proposition regarding the suffering of fish, and I am not convinced that you have articulated a strong defense of your premise, ambassador."


Thank you for the criticism, work on a secondary draft will begin shortly.

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Postby Araraukar » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:45 pm

OOC: I would also suggest putting the intended category and strength or AoE (some categories have strengths, some have AoEs, the proposal rules have a list of the categories with explanations) visible in the post with the draft, because that way we can also help you figure out the legality aspect. :)

IC: "You might want to re-structure your draft in the more common manner, where you put all your justifications first, and all your mandates after that. Also, generally speaking the passive voice - "accepting" and "noting" - should not be used for the mandates, which should instead be in active voice, as "mandates" or "requires". When rewriting this, also consider the feasibility of your required measures, when many fish fished around the world are hauled onto boats by their millions in industrial netting of herrings and similar sized fish. While also being mindful of subsistence fishers, who actually eat the fish they catch, sometimes in prevy primitive conditions and small quantities."
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Devoing
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Postby Devoing » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:07 am

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Postby Ardiveds » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:44 am

OOC: Keep your most recent version of draft in the original post and delete or spoiler the previous versions.
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Devoing
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Postby Devoing » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:41 pm

ACCEPTING the possibility of fish feeling pain.
NOTING the potential effects of the taste of a fish after suffocation takes place.
MANDATING the use of spiking and/or percussive stunning in the fishing industry.

HENCEFORTH,
The World Assembly realizes the possible negative effects of using suffocation as a method of killing fish, along with the ethical issues that come along with it. Evidence of this can be seen bulleted below. Included with this is the acceptation of an effect on the taste of a fish associated with suffocation (which may affect sales).

• Numerous studies done by universities.
• The fact that the anatomy of fish usually includes nociceptors.
• Use of suffocation to kill a fish can take up to 4 minutes.

The Assembly also realizes the potential of fish being able to feel pain or a similar negative stimulation. Along with mandating the use spiking and percussive stunning, and abolishing the use of suffocation as a method of killing in member nations.


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